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At least this saves us from another 18 months of arguments over the distance between Stockholm and Are.

Yeah, "the side of reason & pragmatism" & yet those hardly ever agree with one another. I just don't see how Stockholm bailing out is "really good news". This is really failing to see the f

Allowing a poor country to overspend on a two week sporting event in the name of personal glory is hardly a victory for pragmatism. Although I guess the rotting concrete of Montreal, the graffitied

Wow, really. Can the door open any wider for Oslo then, unless they, too, decide to back out in the end. But it seems that the Norwegians, though, are more in sinc with the bid than the Swedes were. This just now puts Krakow, & even Beijing, into play. Instead of 2022 looking more like 2012 (like many had predicted before, with the clash of many Euro cities), it's instead now looking more like 2020. It's just getting dicier & dicier for the IOC nowadays.

The mayor says that this "doesn't mean no to 'future' Winter Olympics", but when are they gonna have a better opportunity than this one. Plus, the concerns he's citing now will surely come up again in any other future proposal. Not to mention according to an old wise one around here, Stockholm (just like Rome, Munich, St. Moritz & Almaty) will just be "punished" next time they even try! Lmfao! :-D :-P

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Wow, another one shying away...If it had good chances or not will remain a theoretical debate now, but really the IOC will soon find itself in a situation like end of 70s with hardly anyone interested in bidding. Except for nowadays, they have wannabes like Baku or Doha who would gladly foot the bill if it was just presented to them.

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Well that's disappointing. Hopefully they regroup and can find their way into a future bid, but I guess they weren't feeling it. Better to decide now than later on in the game.

And then there were 5...

Haha, just wait, by the short list there will be three...

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Wow, really. Can the door open any wider for Oslo then, unless they, too, decide to back out in the end. But it seems that the Norwegians, though, are more in sinc with the bid than the Swedes were. This just now puts Krakow, & even Beijing, into play. Instead of 2022 looking more like 2012 (like many had predicted before, with the clash of many Euro cities), it's instead now looking more like 2020. It's just getting dicier & dicier for the IOC nowadays.

The mayor says that this "doesn't mean no to 'future' Winter Olympics", but when are they gonna have a better opportunity than this one. Plus, the concerns he's citing now will surely come up again in any other future proposal. Not to mention according to an old wise one around here, Stockholm (just like Rome, Munich, St. Moritz & Almaty) will just be "punished" next time they even try! Lmfao! :-D :-P

Stockholm won't be "punished" (nor would Munich or St Moritz because they never actually put a bid forward) should they want to bid for 2026 because they won't bid for 2026. The Swedes will come to their senses and see that the only way to get a Winter Olympics is with Ostersund and will work on forming a bid around that city, even if it seems too small for a modern Winter Games.

And as stated earlier, Rome would be punished in a voting round should they decide to bid again. They will make the candidacy, but will be denied any games especially if there's a strong Paris bid or another bid from somewhere else.

And why would Almaty be punished? Stockholm opting out just gives Almaty more chances to win. They were going to be candidates anyways.

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Wow, another one shying away...If it had good chances or not will remain a theoretical debate now, but really the IOC will soon find itself in a situation like end of 70s with hardly anyone interested in bidding. Except for nowadays, they have wannabes like Baku or Doha who would gladly foot the bill if it was just presented to them.

Idk about that considering the field that is interested in 2024. However, time will tell.

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Stockholm won't be "punished" (nor would Munich or St Moritz because they never actually put a bid forward) should they want to bid for 2026 because they won't bid for 2026. The Swedes will come to their senses and see that the only way to get a Winter Olympics is with Ostersund and will work on forming a bid around that city, even if it seems too small for a modern Winter Games.

And as stated earlier, Rome would be punished in a voting round should they decide to bid again. They will make the candidacy, but will be denied any games especially if there's a strong Paris bid or another bid from somewhere else.

And why would Almaty be punished? Stockholm opting out just gives Almaty more chances to win. They were going to be candidates anyways.

But why would Sweden not be punished if Rome is???? They pulled out later in the cycle than Rome did, and they also a political decision without the all-important referendum, which you've said is the only legitimate excuse for a country's NOC to go back on their bifding intentions. Far better reason for a vendetta against Sweden even than your conviction that Rome already committed the most heinous bidding crime possible of producing an applicant file then not proceeding.

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Idk about that considering the field that is interested in 2024. However, time will tell.

Well, there's a difference between "interested" and actual bidding. I think by today, we have more (formerly) interested cities for 2022 than we have actual bids.

Maybe also Summer Games are still more attractive, but the Winter ones are looking a bit gloomy really, not just since today.

Stockholm won't be "punished" (nor would Munich or St Moritz because they never actually put a bid forward) should they want to bid for 2026 because they won't bid for 2026. The Swedes will come to their senses and see that the only way to get a Winter Olympics is with Ostersund and will work on forming a bid around that city, even if it seems too small for a modern Winter Games.

And as stated earlier, Rome would be punished in a voting round should they decide to bid again. They will make the candidacy, but will be denied any games especially if there's a strong Paris bid or another bid from somewhere else.

And why would Almaty be punished? Stockholm opting out just gives Almaty more chances to win. They were going to be candidates anyways.

Oh please, not that one again...

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But why would Sweden not be punished if Rome is???? They pulled out later in the cycle than Rome did, and they also a political decision without the all-important referendum, which you've said is the only legitimate excuse for a country's NOC to go back on their bifding intentions. Far better reason for a vendetta against Sweden even than your conviction that Rome already committed the most heinous bidding crime possible of producing an applicant file then not proceeding.

Not agreeing with LD but Rome pulled out later than Stockholm did.

For 2020 bids were announced in September and Rome pulled out in February.

For 2022 bids were announced in November and Stockholm pulled out in January.

Thank god they pulled out. That distance between Stockholm and Are was awful.

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Not agreeing with LD but Rome pulled out later than Stockholm did.

For 2020 bids were announced in September and Rome pulled out in February.

For 2022 bids were announced in November and Stockholm pulled out in January.

Whatever. The point is that the notion that the likes of Rome, Stockholm, Munich or St Moritz pulling out has earned them un-dieing hatred in the regards of IOC members, LD's pet "theory" he keeps spouting at least as regards Rome, is one of the more laughable I've seen here.

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Whatever. The point is that the notion that the likes of Rome, Stockholm, Munich or St Moritz pulling out has earned them un-dieing hatred in the regards of IOC members, LD's pet "theory" he keeps spouting at least as regards Rome, is one of the more laughable I've seen here.

The thing that gets me (and the IOC better take note as well) is that those are some very high profile and very desirable candidates that are bowing out. I think we're likely to see more of this in the years ahead. For most western nations the fiscal responsibility will come first. Over time, it may even become somewhat fashionable and respectable to forego a bid.

The IOC should be absorbing all this.

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The thing that gets me (and the IOC better take note as well) is that those are some very high profile and very desirable candidates that are bowing out. I think we're likely to see more of this in the years ahead. For most western nations the fiscal responsibility will come first. Over time, it may even become somewhat fashionable and respectable to forego a bid.

The IOC should be absorbing all this.

Exactly. That's the IOCs problem and chief task: how to get the likes of Sweden, Italy, Germany and Switzerland back on board rather than shunning them for their public and governments being sceptical of the costs, responsibility and benefits of hosting. Edited by Sir Rols
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Back on what board? If a future bid posesthe same problems as the on they pulled out from, what difference does it make?

If such bidders do go the distance in a future bid, then it all depends on the vote. If there are more viable bidders, then one of them will be chosen.

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And the race shouldn't just favor the old reliables. I mean for 70-80 years, it's always been Europe -Europe. We are now a global village, so if some 3rd world republic wants to spend for the IOC's party, they have as much right to as the old standbys. The IOC just has to trim the Games down to manageable size. Get rid of a lot of the idiotic sports no one but a few hundred people get excited about.

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Back on what board? If a future bid posesthe same problems as the on they pulled out from, what difference does it make?

If such bidders do go the distance in a future bid, then it all depends on the vote. If there are more viable bidders, then one of them will be chosen.

That goes without saying, though. If there are more viable bidders, it would have to do more about that then "punishing" a bid that pulled out from a previous race.

If it's Rome, Paris & Durban for 2024, then it's obvious that Rome has quite the odds stacked against them. But it would have nothing to do with them bowing out of 2020. If it's Rome, Doha & Baku, then Rome becomes a clear favorite.

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The costs of the WOGs have gotten way out of control. We know about Sochi's ridiculous budget but even Pyeongchang, the Alpensia resort, built as the centerpiece of the ski events, was facing bankruptcy last year. If the IOC wants to get serious about controlling the costs of the WOGs, start with constructing a bobsleigh track that is temporary and demountable after the Games much like a temporary velodrome.

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