GBModerator Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Stockholm Sweden won't bid for the 2022 Winter Olympic Games, Stockholm's ruling Moderate party said Friday. Reuters reports that the Moderate party said in a View the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Wow, really. Can the door open any wider for Oslo then, unless they, too, decide to back out in the end. But it seems that the Norwegians, though, are more in sinc with the bid than the Swedes were. This just now puts Krakow, & even Beijing, into play. Instead of 2022 looking more like 2012 (like many had predicted before, with the clash of many Euro cities), it's instead now looking more like 2020. It's just getting dicier & dicier for the IOC nowadays. The mayor says that this "doesn't mean no to 'future' Winter Olympics", but when are they gonna have a better opportunity than this one. Plus, the concerns he's citing now will surely come up again in any other future proposal. Not to mention according to an old wise one around here, Stockholm (just like Rome, Munich, St. Moritz & Almaty) will just be "punished" next time they even try! Lmfao! :-D :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangwon Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Aww, come on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Well that's disappointing. Hopefully they regroup and can find their way into a future bid, but I guess they weren't feeling it. Better to decide now than later on in the game. And then there were 5... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Wow, another one shying away...If it had good chances or not will remain a theoretical debate now, but really the IOC will soon find itself in a situation like end of 70s with hardly anyone interested in bidding. Except for nowadays, they have wannabes like Baku or Doha who would gladly foot the bill if it was just presented to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.bernham Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Well that's disappointing. Hopefully they regroup and can find their way into a future bid, but I guess they weren't feeling it. Better to decide now than later on in the game. And then there were 5... Haha, just wait, by the short list there will be three... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord David Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Wow, really. Can the door open any wider for Oslo then, unless they, too, decide to back out in the end. But it seems that the Norwegians, though, are more in sinc with the bid than the Swedes were. This just now puts Krakow, & even Beijing, into play. Instead of 2022 looking more like 2012 (like many had predicted before, with the clash of many Euro cities), it's instead now looking more like 2020. It's just getting dicier & dicier for the IOC nowadays. The mayor says that this "doesn't mean no to 'future' Winter Olympics", but when are they gonna have a better opportunity than this one. Plus, the concerns he's citing now will surely come up again in any other future proposal. Not to mention according to an old wise one around here, Stockholm (just like Rome, Munich, St. Moritz & Almaty) will just be "punished" next time they even try! Lmfao! :-D :-P Stockholm won't be "punished" (nor would Munich or St Moritz because they never actually put a bid forward) should they want to bid for 2026 because they won't bid for 2026. The Swedes will come to their senses and see that the only way to get a Winter Olympics is with Ostersund and will work on forming a bid around that city, even if it seems too small for a modern Winter Games. And as stated earlier, Rome would be punished in a voting round should they decide to bid again. They will make the candidacy, but will be denied any games especially if there's a strong Paris bid or another bid from somewhere else. And why would Almaty be punished? Stockholm opting out just gives Almaty more chances to win. They were going to be candidates anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brekkie Boy Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 A shame, but better they pull out now rather than in a year or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Wow, another one shying away...If it had good chances or not will remain a theoretical debate now, but really the IOC will soon find itself in a situation like end of 70s with hardly anyone interested in bidding. Except for nowadays, they have wannabes like Baku or Doha who would gladly foot the bill if it was just presented to them. Idk about that considering the field that is interested in 2024. However, time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Stockholm won't be "punished" (nor would Munich or St Moritz because they never actually put a bid forward) should they want to bid for 2026 because they won't bid for 2026. The Swedes will come to their senses and see that the only way to get a Winter Olympics is with Ostersund and will work on forming a bid around that city, even if it seems too small for a modern Winter Games. And as stated earlier, Rome would be punished in a voting round should they decide to bid again. They will make the candidacy, but will be denied any games especially if there's a strong Paris bid or another bid from somewhere else. And why would Almaty be punished? Stockholm opting out just gives Almaty more chances to win. They were going to be candidates anyways. But why would Sweden not be punished if Rome is???? They pulled out later in the cycle than Rome did, and they also a political decision without the all-important referendum, which you've said is the only legitimate excuse for a country's NOC to go back on their bifding intentions. Far better reason for a vendetta against Sweden even than your conviction that Rome already committed the most heinous bidding crime possible of producing an applicant file then not proceeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Idk about that considering the field that is interested in 2024. However, time will tell. Well, there's a difference between "interested" and actual bidding. I think by today, we have more (formerly) interested cities for 2022 than we have actual bids. Maybe also Summer Games are still more attractive, but the Winter ones are looking a bit gloomy really, not just since today. Stockholm won't be "punished" (nor would Munich or St Moritz because they never actually put a bid forward) should they want to bid for 2026 because they won't bid for 2026. The Swedes will come to their senses and see that the only way to get a Winter Olympics is with Ostersund and will work on forming a bid around that city, even if it seems too small for a modern Winter Games. And as stated earlier, Rome would be punished in a voting round should they decide to bid again. They will make the candidacy, but will be denied any games especially if there's a strong Paris bid or another bid from somewhere else. And why would Almaty be punished? Stockholm opting out just gives Almaty more chances to win. They were going to be candidates anyways. Oh please, not that one again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 TOLD YA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 You told us nothing. Everyone already knew that Stockholm (& Oslo) 2022 in the end may not get the full government backing. So that's what happened. Nothing that surprising. Time to move on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic Fan Darcy Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 But why would Sweden not be punished if Rome is???? They pulled out later in the cycle than Rome did, and they also a political decision without the all-important referendum, which you've said is the only legitimate excuse for a country's NOC to go back on their bifding intentions. Far better reason for a vendetta against Sweden even than your conviction that Rome already committed the most heinous bidding crime possible of producing an applicant file then not proceeding. Not agreeing with LD but Rome pulled out later than Stockholm did. For 2020 bids were announced in September and Rome pulled out in February. For 2022 bids were announced in November and Stockholm pulled out in January. Thank god they pulled out. That distance between Stockholm and Are was awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 You told us nothing. Everyone already knew that Stockholm (& Oslo) 2022 in the end may not get the full government backing. So that's what happened. Nothing that surprising. Time to move on now. Uh-huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Not agreeing with LD but Rome pulled out later than Stockholm did. For 2020 bids were announced in September and Rome pulled out in February. For 2022 bids were announced in November and Stockholm pulled out in January. Whatever. The point is that the notion that the likes of Rome, Stockholm, Munich or St Moritz pulling out has earned them un-dieing hatred in the regards of IOC members, LD's pet "theory" he keeps spouting at least as regards Rome, is one of the more laughable I've seen here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barcelona_'92 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 At least this saves us from another 18 months of arguments over the distance between Stockholm and Are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breathesgelatin Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 At least this saves us from another 18 months of arguments over the distance between Stockholm and Are. My thoughts exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Whatever. The point is that the notion that the likes of Rome, Stockholm, Munich or St Moritz pulling out has earned them un-dieing hatred in the regards of IOC members, LD's pet "theory" he keeps spouting at least as regards Rome, is one of the more laughable I've seen here. The thing that gets me (and the IOC better take note as well) is that those are some very high profile and very desirable candidates that are bowing out. I think we're likely to see more of this in the years ahead. For most western nations the fiscal responsibility will come first. Over time, it may even become somewhat fashionable and respectable to forego a bid. The IOC should be absorbing all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 The thing that gets me (and the IOC better take note as well) is that those are some very high profile and very desirable candidates that are bowing out. I think we're likely to see more of this in the years ahead. For most western nations the fiscal responsibility will come first. Over time, it may even become somewhat fashionable and respectable to forego a bid. The IOC should be absorbing all this. Exactly. That's the IOCs problem and chief task: how to get the likes of Sweden, Italy, Germany and Switzerland back on board rather than shunning them for their public and governments being sceptical of the costs, responsibility and benefits of hosting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord David Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Back on what board? If a future bid posesthe same problems as the on they pulled out from, what difference does it make? If such bidders do go the distance in a future bid, then it all depends on the vote. If there are more viable bidders, then one of them will be chosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 And the race shouldn't just favor the old reliables. I mean for 70-80 years, it's always been Europe -Europe. We are now a global village, so if some 3rd world republic wants to spend for the IOC's party, they have as much right to as the old standbys. The IOC just has to trim the Games down to manageable size. Get rid of a lot of the idiotic sports no one but a few hundred people get excited about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Back on what board? If a future bid posesthe same problems as the on they pulled out from, what difference does it make? If such bidders do go the distance in a future bid, then it all depends on the vote. If there are more viable bidders, then one of them will be chosen. That goes without saying, though. If there are more viable bidders, it would have to do more about that then "punishing" a bid that pulled out from a previous race. If it's Rome, Paris & Durban for 2024, then it's obvious that Rome has quite the odds stacked against them. But it would have nothing to do with them bowing out of 2020. If it's Rome, Doha & Baku, then Rome becomes a clear favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 The costs of the WOGs have gotten way out of control. We know about Sochi's ridiculous budget but even Pyeongchang, the Alpensia resort, built as the centerpiece of the ski events, was facing bankruptcy last year. If the IOC wants to get serious about controlling the costs of the WOGs, start with constructing a bobsleigh track that is temporary and demountable after the Games much like a temporary velodrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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