Figure Skating

[Faster 545]

Not when it is the second German and Chinese pairs competing.

[FiveRingFever 19]

Its basically game over for the Canadian team. Russia will beat us in pairs and ladies and will be one or two places behind in dance. They had to beat Plushenko to have a chance to win.

Disaster notwithstanding Russia will win gold (and Canada silver).

I would wait until ladies short is over, but yeah Russia is looking good at this point.

[Faster 545]

I am still confused about the scoring.

Does the short and long program scores add to produce final points (10, 9, 8 etc) or is there 8 component scores? Because the Canadian commentators said they expect the winning score to be 33 to 36.

[dave199 57]

I am still confused about the scoring.

Does the short and long program scores add to produce final points (10, 9, 8 etc) or is there 8 component scores? Because the Canadian commentators said they expect the winning score to be 33 to 36.

I thought the short program scores were only used to qualify for the long program. Then scoring starts fresh

[Tony E Loves Architecture 168]

I'm currently watching the Figure Skating live on BBC.

[Athensfan 1081]

I've read conflicting information. Initially it sounded like the slate was wiped clean after the shorts and the long program points alone determine the winners. But now I'm reading that the short program points not only determine which top five teams compete in the long, those points also carry over to a grand total that then determines the medals.

Can anyone clarify this with certainty?

[baron-pierreIV 1689]

I don't know which is worse: this Team Event or Yoshi's CGF's logo contest? Both muddled messes.

[Athensfan 1081]

I can't find the rules on the ISU website.

[FiveRingFever 19]

I am still confused about the scoring.

Does the short and long program scores add to produce final points (10, 9, 8 etc) or is there 8 component scores? Because the Canadian commentators said they expect the winning score to be 33 to 36.

Maybe they just mean the leading score after the short programs? I not actually sure how the long program scoring works still.

[Athensfan 1081]

Not the rules for the team competition anyway.

[FiveRingFever 19]

Not the rules for the team competition anyway.

Pretty sad considering it's a new event. I think cumulative scores with the long programs counting double (10, 8, 6, 4, 2) would make sense. I seriously doubt that's the case, though.

[dave199 57]

Duhamel/Radford are killing it!! Perfect timing. Team Canada needed this.

Edited February 6, 2014 by dave199

[Fox334 93]

Duhamel/Radford are killing it!! Perfect timing. Team Canada needed this.

Ya, that was really necessary to keep Canada close to Russia. I still think it is Russia's to lose but at least the pressure is still on.

The top 4 pairs teams all did remarkably well, very entertaining to watch.

[breathesgelatin 21]

Well, I'm at work with no way to watch it (currently on my lunch). Will catch up tonight on NBC (groan).

Not surprised at Abbott, I much agree with Athensfan... while there are some things to like about his skating, all in all he's been a disappointing competitor for the US and I pretty much completely lack confidence at his ability to perform in this Olympics.

I honestly am not that surprised at attendance - I watched most of Russian Nationals on YouTube. Russian Nationals was, by the way, held in Sochi this year. Judging from YouTube, the attendance was horrid, even for the ladies' and men's free.

[Athensfan 1081]

Gelatin, can you clarify the scoring. Do the scores from the shorts simply establish the five finalists or are they part of the final score that determines the medals?

[baron-pierreIV 1689]

OK, so who won the Team event?? And then does everyone still get to do their Short Programs one more time before their longs????

[FiveRingFever 19]

OK, so who won the Team event?? And then does everyone still get to do their Short Programs one more time before their longs????

It doesn't end until Sunday. Today was just the men's and pair's short programs. Russia is currently in first followed by Canada, China, and Japan. USA is in a three-way tie for 5th thanks to Jeremy Abbott crapping the bed.

[SkiFreak 123]

OK, so who won the Team event??

These guys:

Actually, could someone explain to me how this new team event works?

[AznWrldTrvlr 3]

It sounds like they're using the bilingual lady that did the announcements in Vancouver to do the English announcements in Sochi.

[Fox334 93]

It sounds like they're using the bilingual lady that did the announcements in Vancouver to do the English announcements in Sochi.

P.J. Kwong? Fairly sure I heard somewhere she was indeed the one doing it. She is also a freelancer that does quite a bit of work with CBC.

[breathesgelatin 21]

Gelatin, can you clarify the scoring. Do the scores from the shorts simply establish the five finalists or are they part of the final score that determines the medals?

The scores from the short establish the five finalists and also factor into the final score that determines the medalists.

(To be clear, it would be more accurate to say 'placement points' than 'scores' here.)

Pretty good analysis of the U.S.A's chances to advance to the frees here (spoiler: the chances are pretty good):

http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?47738-Is-USA-out-of-team-event-already&p=839334&viewfull=1#post839334

[breathesgelatin 21]

Thought I'd come back and add... you can see the documentation about the Team Event rules from the ISU here:

http://isuprod.blob.core.windows.net/media/90897/isu-fs-qs-sochi-2014-2011-12-14.pdf (PDF download)

[Athensfan 1081]

Understood. And yes, I understand it's only the points derived from the ordinals, not the scores that are tallied.

Was hoping they started with a clean slate in the long. C'est la vie.

US Figure Skating should've known better than to have Abbott skate. I expect him to meltdown in the singles competition as well. He just projects psychological weakness and imbalance to me -- in every single interview I've ever seen with him.

The sad thing is that if Ashley implodes too, the US could well not even make the top five.

[paul 616]

I expect him to meltdown in the singles competition as well. He just projects psychological weakness and imbalance to me -- in every single interview I've ever seen with him.

that's harsh and hilarious

disastrous effort by that dude

only see this sport during Olympics

[Athensfan 1081]

that's harsh and hilarious

disastrous effort by that dude

only see this sport during Olympics

It is harsh, but true. Honestly, he always stinks it up royally in international competitions. Always. I can't believe US Figure Skating was so stupid.