LatinXTC 270 Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 Or maybe not... The Pan American Games are not supposed to be a celebration of Hispanic-American culture. Much of the continent's diversity is still barely represented in the PanAms. Just as an example, 17 editions of the games so far and no francophone city has ever hosted them, despite French being recognized by PASO's motto. It's certainly easier to sell the games in places where there are large communities of foreign Latin American populations like Texas, LA and Florida. But It's better for the movement if cities (specially North American cities) can be authentic about themselves and do their own thing, conecting the games to its own communities and quit all that awkward maraca shaking and rumba dancing. Exactly. Pan American Games aren't given out to who can appeal to Latin America the most. They're given to those with a better venue plan and a unique experience. It's the reason why Toronto beat out Bogota and Lima. It's a nice change of scenery after going to Guadalajara, Rio and Santo Domingo. And it will be a nice change of scenery if a US city like Seattle, Chicago, Miami (not because of its Latin American roots), or even Austin, Dallas or Houston wins the right to host the Pan Am games. But if there was a US city that would be picked to appeal to Latin America, specifically Mexico and central America, one of them would definitely be San Antonio. Having been there recently, their downtown has a mixture of a US downtown and old Mexican architecture. Not to mention the Alamo was there. Other than that, the city isn't all that appealing outside of its downtown area. It does have this feeling of being in the middle of nowhere, and not in a good way. If it was going up against Guadalajara for 2011, I think Guadalajara still would have won. If you're going to go for an authentic Latin America feel of a bid, especially one that's heavily Mexican influenced, go for the city that is actually in Mexico. Dallas, Houston and Austin are great choices for a more American authentic city, with a heavy Texas influence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1702 Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Or maybe not... The Pan American Games are not supposed to be a celebration of Hispanic-American culture. Much of the continent's diversity is still barely represented in the PanAms. Just as an example, 17 editions of the games so far and no francophone city has ever hosted them, despite French being recognized by PASO's motto. It's certainly easier to sell the games in places where there are large communities of foreign Latin American populations like Texas, LA and Florida. But It's better for the movement if cities (specially North American cities) can be authentic about themselves and do their own thing, conecting the games to its own communities and quit all that awkward maraca shaking and rumba dancing. No, I beg to differ. In heavily Latino states/cities like CA, Texas, NYC, Miami, Arizona, the differences between a Dominican Republic team vs. say, the team from Domenica or Guatemala or Costa Rica, will be better appreciated than in a white-bread city like Des Moines or Portland...where for the most part, "Mexican" stands in for being "Latino." And you will have to admit that, of PASO's 40 members, it's really only the USA, Canada, Guyana, and a few Caribbean nations that are non-Latin. So for the PanAm Games, everyone becomes "Latino." That is the flavor of the PanAm Games that makes them different from the All-Africa, the Asian, the Euros, the Oceanic Games. I mean, why try to deny the hemisphere's special identity?? For No. America, I think after Toronto doing it for the NE, then what Lima for 2019? San Diego or LA should host for 2023 (whether it gets 2024 or not). But I just don't understand how the crazy mind of the USOC works. Edited September 8, 2015 by baron-pierreIV Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan Rosas 0 Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 2023 will most likely going to Central America either Panama or Costa Rica going to Central America for the 1st time in Pan American history it is the only region in the Americas which it has not been held yet, Or there is Miami USA which could be helping them in a lead up to the an 2032 Olympics Games bid it's in the Caribbean sea area. It will most likely be Miami USA or Panama City Panama which will host the 2023 Pan American Games Miami is hosting the 2017 Out Games which is the 2nd biggest Gay Sporting event in the world after the Gay Games, By 2023 it will be 36 years since the USA last hosted the Pan American Games in 1987 after Santiago De Chile pulled out on hosting them with out that it will be since 1959 since the USA last hosted the games in it's own right in Chicago Miami is an major city in the Caribbean sea area which could be the next Caribbean host city to the games. It could go like this Panama City Panama 2023 - Miami USA 2027 or vice versa. Panama City, Panamá is the Best option for Bidding in Central America because of the Geographic Position and the Panama Canal, and has a potential bid for the Pan Am Games 2023. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woohooitsme83 297 Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Panama City, Panamá is the Best option for Bidding in Central America because of the Geographic Position and the Panama Canal, and has a potential bid for the Pan Am Games 2023. I don't know about that... (unless you count the PS4, Win10, and T-Mobile as a potential Panamanian bid?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nacre 217 Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 But realistically only Montreal or Quebec City can host, and there probably isn't an appetite in either city (76 and Quebec's ambitions for a WOG) being a barrier to a successful bid. Surely Montreal would not need to build much of anything, though. A Pan-American Games in Montreal actually makes a lot of sense. Certainly more so than a winter Olympic games using snow venues in the USA. No, I beg to differ. In heavily Latino states/cities like CA, Texas, NYC, Miami, Arizona, the differences between a Dominican Republic team vs. say, the team from Domenica or Guatemala or Costa Rica, will be better appreciated than in a white-bread city like Des Moines or Portland...where for the most part, "Mexican" stands in for being "Latino." Oregon still has a large hispanic population. (12%) The difference is that the city of Portland has not been hollowed out by white flight, but the fact that Portland doesn't have slums and prevalent racism would not make it a bad host. If PASO accepted a broad, metro area bid and let them use the facilities at the University of Oregon in Eugene and Oregon State in Corvallis, then Portland could be a great host. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LatinXTC 270 Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 If PASO accepted a broad, metro area bid and let them use the facilities at the University of Oregon in Eugene and Oregon State in Corvallis, then Portland could be a great host. Or just screw Portland, just have the whole thing being held in Eugene and Corvallis. Among both colleges in Eugene and Corvallis there should be plenty of facilities to use for the games. The Oregon Ducks' Autzen Stadium has a 54k capacity, so surely that's enough for the o/c ceremonies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Victor Mata 272 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 As we've jusr seen, PASO is very ok with metro areas hosting the games and an anchor city naming the event. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intoronto 650 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 As we've jusr seen, PASO is very ok with metro areas hosting the games and an anchor city naming the event. Well not to brag anything, but having your main event in a large media market in the eastern time zone is something very hard to balk at. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LatinXTC 270 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 As we've jusr seen, PASO is very ok with metro areas hosting the games and an anchor city naming the event. The difference between the idea of a Portland/Corvallis/Eugene bid and what Toronto did is that the majority of the outdoor events that were a good distant away from Toronto were geography-specific. It's similar to what a Winter Olympic bid has to deal with when thinking about the venue plan for their outdoor events. Vancouver can't host alpine skiing events so they have to go to Whistler. BUT just like Vancouver and Toronto, Portland SHOULD be able capable of hosting the majority of the indoor events within city limits, with a few exceptions for smaller events. BUT the track and field events SHOULDN'T be one of those exceptions. If you're going to be using Hayward Field to host the athletics events, which is of great importance to large sporting events like the Pan Am games and Summer Olympics, then Eugene should be the one to be the named host and not Portland. Portland will have to serve as the secondary host city. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1702 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 The difference between the idea of a Portland/Corvallis/Eugene bid and what Toronto did is that the majority of the outdoor events that were a good distant away from Toronto were geography-specific. It's similar to what a Winter Olympic bid has to deal with when thinking about the venue plan for their outdoor events. Vancouver can't host alpine skiing events so they have to go to Whistler. BUT just like Vancouver and Toronto, Portland SHOULD be able capable of hosting the majority of the indoor events within city limits, with a few exceptions for smaller events. BUT the track and field events SHOULDN'T be one of those exceptions. If you're going to be using Hayward Field to host the athletics events, which is of great importance to large sporting events like the Pan Am games and Summer Olympics, then Eugene should be the one to be the named host and not Portland. Portland will have to serve as the secondary host city. I think it's where the IOC or PASO Secretariat resides for the particular competition and/or where the local Organizing cares to designate as the anchor city. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TeamBlakeUSA 24 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 Mexico Is Bidding For 2023 Pan Am Games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LatinXTC 270 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Mexico Is Bidding For 2023 Pan Am Games. Source??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TeamBlakeUSA 24 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 How Many Applicant Cities Do We Need? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nacholympic 94 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Mexico Is Bidding For 2023 Pan Am Games. Even if i'ts true, Mexico has few chances, since is too early to stage two Pan Am Games: in 2011 they hosted them in Guadalajara.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TeamBlakeUSA 24 Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Is The Host City Selection Happening Next Year In Lima, Peru. Edit:Is The Host City Selection Happening Next Year In Lima, Peru? Is The Host City Selection Happening Next Year In Lima, Peru? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thatsnotmypuppy 559 Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TeamBlakeUSA 24 Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Get Away From Me And My Posts You Idiot! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nacholympic 94 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 By the moment (March, 2016) Only one Central American city has shown its interest in biddig for 2023 Pan Am: San Juan, Puerto Rico that hosted Pan Am in 1979. When there is no official candidates, There are at least 3 South Amaerican countries interested in bidding: Argentina, Chile and Colombia. Mar del Plata wants to bring back the Games that hosted in 1995. By 2023, it will be 28 years after they hosted it. Santiago wants to give another try. After failing for 2019, hit by Lima, the Presidente Michelle Bachelet herself gave the announcement of the intention to bid. Nevertheless, it has not been confirmed again. Santiago pulled out twice: in 1975 and 1987. Both claiming politicial and financial problems. Santiago hosted the 2014 South American Games and 2015 Copa América Colombia has shown its interest in bid with 3 cities: Bogotá, Cali and MedellÃn. Cali hosted the Pan Am in 1971, MedellÃn hosted the 2010 South American Games and Cali hosted the 2013 World Games Apparently, and how the things are happening up to here, 2023 Pan Am are going to be hosted in South American soils for a second time in a row. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LatinXTC 270 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Oh well. Give it to someone who wants it. There's no need for a form of continental rotation in these events. Most countries in Central America and the Caribbean are too unstable, as far as crime and their economies go, to host the games.The US nor Canada look like they want it. So give it to South America. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neneu10 328 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 São Paulo 2023 ???? http://tvefamosos.uol.com.br/colunas/flavio-ricco/2016/04/29/tvs-em-alerta-sao-paulo-e-favorita-para-sediar-o-pan-americano-de-2023.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nacholympic 94 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 São Paulo 2023 ???? http://tvefamosos.uol.com.br/colunas/flavio-ricco/2016/04/29/tvs-em-alerta-sao-paulo-e-favorita-para-sediar-o-pan-americano-de-2023.htm Too close to Rio Olympics and still fresh in memory 2007 Pan Ams. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TeamBlakeUSA 24 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 OK, Will São Paulo Host 2023 Pan Am? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intoronto 650 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TeamBlakeUSA 24 Posted May 2, 2016 Report Share Posted May 2, 2016 You Stop That!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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