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I agree with your statement but maybe this is the 'natural course' of things. We're currently under a template that was succesful in 1984 and got bloated after a few decades. Agenda 2020 tries to make the Olympic Games make sense to 21st century cities. That's great, but eventually the update will get saturated in the future, which doesn't mean the adjustments aren't positive for now.

Problem is: Will the IOC members even "install" the "update" on their "hard drives" (brains) when it comes to choosing a host city? Or will many of them continue to work with their old operating system, to which new concept bids are incompatible?

I believe in change when I see it, not just read a piece of IOC PR.

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I guess I'm not the only one who finds it ironic that all these recommendations are being debated by the IOC in Monaco, the very epitome of tax evasion, flaunting of extreme wealth, & general over

You hit on both points in that 2nd paragraph. It is most definitely feasible to allow other cities into the mix. But 'optimal' is in the eye of the beholder and the IOC voter who chooses the host ci

You can think what you want of royals (I'm a republican myself), but members like Prince Albert and Princess Anne WERE actual Olympic athletes, and have taken their IOC duties seriously. Indeed they'v

Problem is: Will the IOC members even "install" the "update" on their "hard drives" (brains) when it comes to choosing a host city? Or will many of them continue to work with their old operating system, to which new concept bids are incompatible?

I believe in change when I see it, not just read a piece of IOC PR.

Altho in putting the 2017 Session in Lima, just after a year after Rio, instead of Helsinki, is rather significant -- in that they did not opt to return to Europe again! Altho this might just be a dangerous smokescreen in that they want to send 2024 to Europe regardless since 2024 would be the slot for the 'every 3rd Olympics to go to Europe,' after Rio and Tokyo. .

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Altho this might just be a dangerous smokescreen in that they want to send 2024 to Europe regardless since 2024 would be the slot for the 'every 3rd Olympics to go to Europe,' after Rio and Tokyo. .

I thought of the same thing. Not to mention, having it South America again (only 4 years after the last summer host city election, & only a year after the very first South American Olympics) creates a neutral ground for all other continents that are likely to place bids.

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I thought of the same thing. Not to mention, having it South America again (only 4 years after the last summer host city election, & only a year after the very first South American Olympics) creates a neutral ground for all other continents that are likely to place bids.

For what it's worth, since I know there are plenty of people here who look for such historical quirks..

The last Olympic host city to be selected in the same continent where the IOC was held was Athens in 1997. Before that, you have to go back to 1986 with Barcelona/Albertville. Ironically enough, both of those sessions were in Lausanne.

I had thought picking Lima over Helsinki might be something of a screw you to Europe because of 2022, but now that you and baron bring it up, I like your thinking a lot more than it creates a neutral ground when there will more than likely be at least a European bidder or 2 in the field.

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Wih high speed train, this is around 3 hours, like the time to go From Paris to Marseille in TGV (780 km).

For a Paris bid, we could imagine Paris having the main sports but Marseille hosting Sailing, Beach-Volley, Volley-Ball and some other events where it is nice to be outside near the sea and with sun : Marathon, Road Cycling and Mountain Bike ;-)

But why Marseille when you have Le Havre or Calais or even Biarritz so much closer to Paris than Marseille?

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The downside of the "flexible" sports roster:

Five athletics events said to be at risk of being cut from future Olympic Games

The 10,000m, 200m and shot put are among five athletics eventsicon1.png which are under threat of being cut from the Olympic Games, claims Australian newspaper The Age.

In an article on www.theage.com.au, it is reported that the 10,000m, a men’s race walk eventicon1.png, the 200m, shot put and triple jump are – in that order – the most at risk, if changes are to be made.

The possible loss of the triple jump was reported earlier this week after a prominent IOC member suggested it should be removed from the programme at an International Olympic Commission session in Monte Carlo.

But, with changes to the summer Olympics programme including moving away from a cap on the number of sportsicon1.png at the Games but introducing a restriction on the number of events, Michael Gleeson of The Age has since written that the triple jump is actually the least under threat athletics event of five which could be cut.

“Five key events, remarkably including the 200-metre sprint, and the shot put, are in jeopardy after the IOC pushed for the athletics program to be tightened to allow other sports to be added to the Olympics schedule,” read Gleeson’s report.

“Respected athletics administrator Brian Roe, a senior international technical official at the Olympics and world championships, said he was at a meeting of influential thinkers in the sporticon1.png when the options were put and those five events were all presented as the most obvious choices if there were to be changes,” it continued.

The Age quoted Australian official Roe as saying: “There was a gathering over dinner in Europe recently of senior athletics people who are very significant in influencing policy matters and I was present. The IOC clearly has a view to reduce the number of those competing in athletics events and options were raised for how to do that and clearly there was a strong view that the 10,000, 200, one race walk and shot put were the most at riskicon1.png. The triple jump was the least of those five.”

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I really don't think the number of athletics events is the biggest problem of the Olympics. You need the athletics stadium anyway. I think more important would be reducing the number of venues than the number of events and thus athletes.

But if some athletics events should be dropped, it would be only running events. Each throw and jump sport are so different that they deserve their place in the Olympics. I have the distances I might drop in parenthesis:

100m

(200m)

400m

(800m)

1500m

(5000m)

10000m

Also, I feel reducing the number of athletics events might devalue the Olympics. There would be athletes whose biggest championship is the Worlds, thus making it rather the meeting of all the best.

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My opinion:

Race walking YES. it's so stupid, everyone is cheating all the time and there is no real way to monitor it throughfully.

10000m YES. long, boring, I would much rather watch the marathon or stepleechase for endurance events.

Triple Jump YES. It'ss redundant when you already have long jump.

200m NO. Classic event, draws lot of interest.

Shot put NO. Why would it be removed and not, let's say, hammer throw or Discus?? Doesn't make sense to me to put it on this list.

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Triple Jump YES. It'ss redundant when you already have long jump.

200m NO. Classic event, draws lot of interest.

Triple jump has specialists, only few are good both in it and long jump.

200m is a way less special event. While it's the best event for some sprinters, they usually do also 100m/200m, while not necessarily at the Olympics.

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First cut the "sports" where results are most heavily dependent on judges' decisions such as rhythmic gymnastics, synchronised swimming and especially equestrianism, an elitist hobby for ex-nobility members which requires animals to take part, don't they have their own competitions?

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Equestrian should be cut why does a athlete need a horse to win a medal. Can someone please tell me when was the last time a horse pee in a bottle?

The IOC did NOTHING!!! I guess they couldn't wait for the cocktail party to start. No (free elected) government on this planet would past reforms this fast.

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Well put Quaker2001! Well once the IOC sees the checks getting smaller then they will acted. Just like 2022, the IOC could care less about equal rights when a city with the biggest check is waved in front of them, that’s where 2022 will go. It’s the ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR (POUND-EURO) WRAP UP IN A IRON FIST.

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Well put Quaker2001! Well once the IOC sees the checks getting smaller then they will acted. Just like 2022, the IOC could care less about equal rights when a city with the biggest check is waved in front of them, that’s where 2022 will go. It’s the ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR (POUND-EURO) WRAP UP IN A IRON FIST.

Yea, about that..

IOC awards Olympic Games broadcast rights to NBCUniversal through to 2032

Agreement ensures the long-term financial security of the Olympic Movement

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Equestrian should be cut why does a athlete need a horse to win a medal. Can someone please tell me when was the last time a horse pee in a bottle?

The IOC did NOTHING!!! I guess they couldn't wait for the cocktail party to start. No (free elected) government on this planet would past reforms this fast.

Because it's one of the original 9 sports in the Modern Era program and it looks beautiful on TV. That's why. BTW, they draw blood from the horses. They don't ask them to pee.

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Because it's one of the original 9 sports in the Modern Era program and it looks beautiful on TV. That's why. BTW, they draw blood from the horses. They don't ask them to pee.

You took the words right out of my mouth. It's a beautiful sport. And, yes, horses do get tested... and have been banned and stripped of results for failing dope tests. Edited by Sir Rols
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My apologies to the horse. Why doesn’t the horse get the medal? BTW So, does ladies beach volley ball it looks good on television too.

Equestrian competition was dropped from the 1904 Olympic Games, and owed its return to Count Clarence von Rosen, Master of the Horse to the King of Sweden. I guess when royalty speaks the IOC listens.

Baron; did the IOC do anything? Put the Olympic Channel up against F1, Euro Football, or American Football. Then let’s talk telly rating

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Why doesn’t the horse get the medal?

They do.

BTW So, does ladies beach volley ball it looks good on television too.

Exactly. That's why it's one of the most popular and highest rating events if the games and no-one even whispers about getting rid of it.

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Baron; did the IOC do anything? Put the Olympic Channel up against F1, Euro Football, or American Football. Then let’s talk telly rating

What do you mean "do anything"? Migod they just adjourned a few days ago. Yes, they passed 40 points of the Memoranda. For an int'l organization whose 100 odd-members are volunteers (you seem to forget that) which meets but ONCE a year, that is movement of tectonic proportions. Most of all, they seem to have a new mindset.

I think your expectations of the changes and when they may happen are wildly unrealistic.

What are you talking about Olympic Channel vs. Fi, Euro, etc., etc. It's NOT meant to go up against those other channels. Besides, when they have both the Winter and Summer Games, those are about the only major global sports tournaments on. So I don;t understand where u're coming from with this "vs." business? That's not the business model they are going after, I believe.

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Baron; did the IOC do anything? Put the Olympic Channel up against F1, Euro Football, or American Football. Then let’s talk telly rating

What are you talking about Olympic Channel vs. Fi, Euro, etc., etc. It's NOT meant to go up against those other channels. Besides, when they have both the Winter and Summer Games, those are about the only major global sports tournaments on. So I don;t understand where u're coming from with this "vs." business? That's not the business model they are going after, I believe.

You believe correctly, baron

olympikan, the Olympic Channel would be an Internet only channel. It wouldn't be on your telly. So it is not going up against traditional TV programming.

For some background.. IOC to Launch Year-Round Olympics Internet TV Channel

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