baron-pierreIV 1691 Report post Posted December 17, 2013 I never meant to mean Give. It is earnt. And is it a bad thing I post so much? Am just joshing u. U have to earn ur stripes here as well. Pay attention to the emoticons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony E Loves Architecture 168 Report post Posted December 17, 2013 Am just joshing u. U have to earn ur stripes here as well. Pay attention to the emoticons. I want to contribute to this Amazing Forum massively and I am not trying to get the best Stripes, I just want to learn, help and contribute and socialize with people with interests like mine. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoshi 331 Report post Posted December 17, 2013 I'm a relative newbie, but I lurked for ages. You do need to learn the ways of the Baron though. The main challenge is knowing when he's being serious or not. I'm still nowhere near figuring him out. Good luck 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenadian 300 Report post Posted December 17, 2013 You can love and support any bid you want. But you also have to measure it against reality. Personally, I was a fan of the Istanbul 2020 bid. I love the city and thought they would make an exotic host. But I knew in my heart that Tokyo was a very strong candidate. In the end, Tokyo essentially creamed Madrid and Istanbul. Just like Rio creamed Madrid for 2016 and Beijing creamed everyone for 2008. I also supported Paris for 2012, but expected it to be a close showdown with London. It was. But London won. And as a Vancouverite, I madly supported my city for the 2010 Winter Games. And I wanted us to cream the Salzburg bid. And we did. But almost lost to Pyeongchang in the process! The IOC is sometimes like the weather. An unexpected storm or blast of rain sweeps in. Sydney stealing Beijing's 2000 thunder by two votes. Chicago's early 2016 exit. A near first ballot 2010 upset by Pyeongchang. But they are also predictable. Beijing's thunderous return for a 2008 win. The London-Paris 2012 showdown. Borjomi failing to make the 2014 shortlist. But in this case, this bid is not likely to "Lviv Long and Prosper". 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord David 224 Report post Posted December 18, 2013 Lviv wasn't going to make the candidate stage anyways, protests or no protests. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petrpetr 18 Report post Posted January 23, 2014 How do you feel incidents in Ukraine will influence Lviv bid? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StefanMUC 682 Report post Posted January 23, 2014 How do you feel incidents in Ukraine will influence Lviv bid? The bid is the least of Ukraine's worries right now, it would always have been kicked out when the shortlist is announced, so it doesn't really make a difference for its chances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zekekelso 794 Report post Posted January 23, 2014 How do you feel incidents in Ukraine will influence Lviv bid? If Lviv had a chance in the first place, it's dead down. Riots in the street are the last thing the IOC wants to see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petrpetr 18 Report post Posted January 24, 2014 Yep, i think in this same way. I though Lviv had only little chances to make it, but now it seems all is gone. IMHO there will be 3 shortlisted bids. 2 from Europe, and 1 from Asia. I just wanted to know what people from another parts of the world think about Ukraine issue. Polish media coverage is quite emiotional. Our history is similiar and future is connected. Not so long ago Poles faced similiar nightmare. Thanks God i was born in Poland ready to sail to west. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FYI 1191 Report post Posted January 24, 2014 IMHO there will be 3 shortlisted bids. 2 from Europe, and 1 from Asia. Yes, Oslo, Krakow & Beijing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donutman88 5 Report post Posted January 24, 2014 I truly see this race as another 2014 one. You have the "favorite" in Oslo (Salzburg in 2014), then 2 others cities who I see getting shortlisted (Krakow and Beijing, maybe Almaty) that although people don't see being a threat (like Sochi was), could pull it off. It'll be interesting w/o Stockholm and essentially Lviv in the race now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
breathesgelatin 21 Report post Posted January 24, 2014 The protests in Ukraine are spreading to Lviv: http://aroundtherings.com/site/A__45751/Title__2022-Update-Ukraine-Turmoil-Hits-Lviv-Oslo-Poll/292/Articles To me, the question is, will Lviv withdraw from the race before they are inevitably cut at shortlist time? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StefanMUC 682 Report post Posted January 24, 2014 I don't know the political ties behind the bid, but since Western Ukraine is an opposition stronghold normally, I could imagine either the people behind it also being anti-Yanukovich and thus trying to keep the bid alive as a symbol of their independence. Or if it's pro-Yanukovich, they will pull the plug to demoralise the people of Lviv (if they actually care about that bid in the first place). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
world atlas 72 Report post Posted January 26, 2014 I think they will choose one of these logos to be the logo of Lviv 2022 bid : Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
world atlas 72 Report post Posted January 26, 2014 Logo 1 : Logo 2 : Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
world atlas 72 Report post Posted January 26, 2014 Logo 3 : Logo 4 : We can vote here : http://www.lviv2022.in.ua/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StefanMUC 682 Report post Posted January 26, 2014 No need to pick a logo for a dead bid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amorincognito 13 Report post Posted January 26, 2014 The graphics actually aren't horrible, though. We've definitely seen worse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p85 57 Report post Posted January 26, 2014 The graphics actually aren't horrible, though. We've definitely seen worse. Exactly, I really like all of those. Every logo has a proper motivation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1691 Report post Posted January 26, 2014 FAR BETTER than the jokes of 2010-2018!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zekekelso 794 Report post Posted January 26, 2014 Very nice designs. Still don't see it happening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petrpetr 18 Report post Posted January 27, 2014 Its still getting harder for Lviv bid. The governor of Ukraine's western Lviv region resigned on Thursday after anti-government protesters shouting "revolution" stormed his offices. http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/ukraine-unrest-lviv.t5g Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FYI 1191 Report post Posted January 27, 2014 These Ukranian protests make the Turkish ones from last summer seem like a walk in the park in comparison. Lviv might as well just give it up already. It's futile at this point. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p85 57 Report post Posted January 27, 2014 Lviv might as well just give it up already. It's futile at this point. I hope they don't i'm extremelly biased here (my grandma was born in Lviv), but I really hope that they don't withdraw to that March deadline, and the bid book will be supplied to the IOC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StefanMUC 682 Report post Posted January 27, 2014 I hope they don't i'm extremelly biased here (my grandma was born in Lviv), but I really hope that they don't withdraw to that March deadline, and the bid book will be supplied to the IOC. I can see your reasoning, but it really is a waste of time and money at this point. Better get out now and come back in hopefully a peaceful democratic era of Ukraine in a couple of years. Energy should be focussed on other things than an Olympic bid that will NEVER happen in 2022. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
