paul 619 Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 were they influenced in any way by London? what past ceremony was most influential? what was the most challenging segment? what were they most proud of? what would they do differently? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ofan 696 Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 No Baron post the response to Rob's question on here. I want to hear it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony E Loves Architecture 168 Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 Her appearance won't affect Krakow's Bid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattygs 274 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Im interested in the cauldron lighting question too. I guess the other thing would be the failed ideas that didn't work for one reason or another. What was Sochi's dove on a bull and paella, in other words. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1700 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Question time now closed. Some good ones there. Thanks. Will send them off to the source tonight. Let's wait a few days before I hear back. Since some posters here (who has since been blighted off my screen) are unbelievably vicious and snarky, I have therefore decided to just send out the reply to your particular query privately. I was going to share in a free, open and generous spirit but evidently there are also malevolent shadows infesting this board. @OlympicsFan97, I consider this matter IP since it is the product of my hard-work and efforts, and will share it accordingly with people here who are sincerely interested and at least have interfaced with and treated me civilly. No ifs; no but's. I really don't need the other wretched and judgmental souls here. Please clear your Inboxes and/or send me your emails. P.S. Those on my "no-fly" zone so far: TonyE, Bernham, Alexjc and Jackelso, AthensF and krow (off and on) Edited April 21, 2014 by baron-pierreIV Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony E Loves Architecture 168 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Question time now closed. Some good ones there. Thanks. Will send them off to the source tonight. Let's wait a few days before I hear back. Since some posters here (who has since been blighted off my screen) are unbelievably vicious and snarky, I have therefore decided to just send out the reply to your particular query privately. I was going to share in a free, open and generous spirit but evidently there are also malevolent shadows infesting this board. @OlympicsFan97, I consider this matter IP since it is the product of my hard-work and efforts, and will share it accordingly with people here who are sincerely interested and at least have interfaced with and treated me civilly. No ifs; no but's. I really don't need the other wretched and judgmental souls here. Please clear your Inboxes and/or send me your emails. P.S. Those on my "no-fly" zone so far: TonyE, Bernham, Alexjc and Jackelso, AthensF and krow (off and on) Just to make note, not that Baron can see this, Baron has me on his ignore list because I proved him wrong on my identity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr.bernham 384 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Just to make note, not that Baron can see this, Baron has me on his ignore list because I proved him wrong on my identity. I'm on it because I called him out on how he should stop taunting people. Anyway's his tastes in ceremonies revolve around large mechanical set pieces (IE Why he HATES Athens 2004, but LOVES Beijing 2008 and Sochi 2014) and his tastes in ceremonies will soon be outdated as organizers will tend to go for things that excite interests us 'newbies'. Though blocking him as well has made my GB experience the more enjoyable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JMarkSnow2012 387 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 I'm on it because I called him out on how he should stop taunting people. Anyway's his tastes in ceremonies revolve around large mechanical set pieces (IE Why he HATES Athens 2004, but LOVES Beijing 2008 and Sochi 2014) I assume that by "mechanical" there you mean "people behaving in a mechanical fashion" rather than literally "mechanical" (for which Athens set the gold standard with its Cycladic head etc.). I think you're being hard on Sochi- they had a lot of mass-movement, but it was created from a ballet tradition, so there was a mixture of genuinely "mechanical" (the waving flag, the parade through the streets of St. Petersburg) and exuberant dance (Chudo Yudo fish whale, the Tolstoy ballroom scene, Moscow life after the Patriotic War). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zekekelso 794 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Just to make note, not that Baron can see this, Baron has me on his ignore list because I proved him wrong on my identity. Psst - Baron never actually puts people on ignore. Tiem and time again he responds to people he claims to ignore. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Olympian2004 511 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Hi Baron, thanks for forwarding the questions (even if I saw your call for questions too late and couldn't participate). Could you send me all the answers you got, too? I'm particularly interested in the answer what led to the change in the cauldron lighting, but in the other answers at all. Thanks! My inbox is emptied. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1700 Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) Latest: I think I may have scared him away by submitting 9 questions/topics. He is a busy professional...and maybe I was asking too much. So I whittled it down to just 3 areas...and hopefully that's brief enough for him to respond. Re the rejected production ideas: I already know 2 of them from another source...but you'll get the full story in the updated 2014 edition of my book...which I hope will be available this early June. **************************************************** Oops...just heard from him. He just got back from Europe and has been short of time. He now says he will try to respond to as most as he can from the original 9. So we might still get lucky. Edited April 27, 2014 by baron-pierreIV 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1700 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) @Sir Rols,JMark, Mattyg, Ofan97, Olympian2004, Palette97, paul -- As promised, heard from the gentleman. Do you have space in your PM box so I can send something? Edited May 3, 2014 by baron-pierreIV Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yoshi 353 Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 The IOC aren't as evil as we thought - the complete Sochi OC, on Youtube: 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ofan 696 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 It was only a matter of time. Should see the complete events popping up sometime soon too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr.bernham 384 Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 The IOC aren't as evil as we thought - the complete Sochi OC, on Youtube: I hoped they would show the practice footage for the rings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Olympian2004 511 Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 I hoped they would show the practice footage for the rings Why should they? That was only trickery by Russian TV in order to fake that everything went as planned. What you see in that official IOC video is the OBS footage, the so-called "world picture" (as it is called here in Germany at least) which was fed to TV stations worldwide. And the OBS didn't cut away to rehearsal footage during the live broadcast of the ceremony. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krow 562 Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Why should they? That was only trickery by Russian TV in order to fake that everything went as planned. What you see in that official IOC video is the OBS footage, the so-called "world picture" (as it is called here in Germany at least) which was fed to TV stations worldwide. And the OBS didn't cut away to rehearsal footage during the live broadcast of the ceremony. side note, i'm trying to PM you something super important to me that will greatly inconvenience you but your box is full, which greatly inconveniences me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zekekelso 794 Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Psst - NBC - I would totally buy this on blu-ray, but only if you give me the announcerless feed as an audio option. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JMarkSnow2012 387 Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Previs versions of some of George Tsypin's Sochi OC concepts, from virtual set design specialist Dennis W. Moyes: Troika & Rings (early version with extra flying elements) Russia's Industrial Revolution Post-war reconstruction PLUS: "Sochi Cauldron Test" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1700 Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 It's too bad there is no audio in those 3 clips. The first 2 are interesting...but the 'cauldron test" is NOTHING at all like what happened. Unless it was a first concept. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JMarkSnow2012 387 Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 the 'cauldron test" is NOTHING at all like what happened. Unless it was a first concept. That's what makes the clip so interesting, given the cobbled-together cauldron lighting they actually ended up with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1700 Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 That's what makes the clip so interesting, given the cobbled-together cauldron lighting they actually ended up with. From that clip though, I don't see how that could've become a cauldron -- and it doesn't tie in with the "Firebird" idea in any way. After all, Tsypin did tell me that they just decided to go simple after the rest of the complexity of the show -- or I guess after such a wild idea as above proved totally impractical. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yoshi 353 Posted September 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 What the hell is that thing? Doesn't look anything like any kind of cauldron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ofan 696 Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 What's going on in that cauldron test video? I'm confused. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JMarkSnow2012 387 Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 From that clip though, I don't see how that could've become a cauldron -- and it doesn't tie in with the "Firebird" idea in any way. After all, Tsypin did tell me that they just decided to go simple after the rest of the complexity of the show -- or I guess after such a wild idea as above proved totally impractical. It certainly doesn't tie in with the Firebird, but the mega-orrery look of it would fit in quite nicely with the final sequence of the ceremony, showing athletes as constellations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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