illustrado 75 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 What's gone wrong here? Why has this thread turned into a "what's wrong-with-Sochi" thread??? Aren't there others for those? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!! TBH, i was expecting this to happen. like the london OC tread we always get derailed in the topic. anyways, any news on the closing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nzl 43 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Yeah... Sorry for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alexjc 354 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Now you can see into the future. Alright Marty McFly, stick to the day job Scotguy...jeeasus man! Ignore him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juso 42 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 And honestly if we are judging (as you are sugesting) just by the impact of photo's you can't tell me this: which if we have no prior knowledge of (as you are suggesting) could just be a delay is worse than this which is so obviously lopsided it couldn't be design. I am assuming the above is directed at me out of the your multi quote commentary. In regard to the photos, we are going to have to agree to disagree, because if I showed anyone i know who is not obsessed with the olympics like me, the two above photos, I know which one they would see the problem in first, the rings. And if you have not seen anything or know anything about either photo as you suggest then the same delayed theory works for both. ie you could assume the four leg is just delayed. Like I said before from a broadcast perspective the vancouver glitch was very obvious, just as the rings segment being the opening climax and the musical climax was very obvious. But as an internet wildfire, now with even tshirts you can buy, makes the rings a much more iconic glitch, one easily understood by all. In any case this is silly and any comparison to other glitches does not prove/disprove that fun could or could not be made of it in the closing ceremony. I still would like to see it happen, (it probably wont) and like someone else said, they do not have to use a rubber chicken either. And I do think any kind of skit would be too close to Vancouver to be passable. It would just make the list of things similar to past games even longer. What they need in the CC is something uniquely Russian that also hasn't been done before. If they did a display of Russian music across the generation (i.e. London) I would literally rage. ^ I have to disagree, Vancouver was not the first closing ceremony to have a skit, sydney's cc had a staged skit aswell. Whilst I agree with your thought it would be good to have something uniquely russian, there are things that are good to see in closing ceremony's that you may see as unpassable as they are too close to to other CC's, for me, these common threads are things that make the tradition and pagentry of Olympic Ceremonies truly special. I think the ceremonies would be lesser without them and the interest is to see how the host country will interpret these traditions and ceremony framework, including things such as the countdown, the releasing of the doves (done brilliantly in Sochi as ballet - distinctly russian) and the rings segment. Also I am unsure why you would 'Rage' if they did russian music across the generation> As a good majority of Closing Ceremonies showcase their musical talent in a live concert Party for the atheletes. London was not unique in this regard, but just happened to be probably the most entertaining version due to the breadth of British Musical Talent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nzl 43 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 In regard to the photos, we are going to have to agree to disagree, because if I showed anyone i know who is not obsessed with the olympics like me, the two above photos, I know which one they would see the problem in first, the rings. Well the cauldron is already lit so it couldn't have been a delay but I agree that it is silly to compare accidents, mostly because they weren't planned. Well the cauldron is already lit so it couldn't have been a delay but I agree that it is silly to compare accidents, mostly because they weren't planned. And if you have not seen anything or know anything about either photo as you suggest then the same delayed theory works for both. ie you could assume the four leg is just delayed. Wrong quote sorry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juso 42 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 thats coo nzl, i got what you meant, agree to disagree but all friendly I promise... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Victor Mata 272 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Like I said before from a broadcast perspective the vancouver glitch was very obvious, just as the rings segment being the opening climax and the musical climax was very obvious. But as an internet wildfire, now with even tshirts you can buy, makes the rings a much more iconic glitch, one easily understood by all. That's because the indoor cauldron in Vancouver was such an eyesore that even the ring fail looks more elegant than that pile of sticks around a lollipop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4seasonscentre 33 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 They already showed the 5 rings opening after the cauldron was lit on the stadium floor at the end of the opening. I noticed that. Was that planned? Or was it just a way of saying "This is what it was supposed to look like". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scotguy 330 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Yeah and that it needs to copy everything from the rest of the world. The similarity to London and Sydney in the OC may have gone over the heads of the average viewer but anyone who saw the start of the Vancouver CC would instantly see the immense (unforgivable similarity). What was teh unforgivable similarity between the start of the Vancouver CC and Sochi OC? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SkiFreak 123 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 That's because the indoor cauldron in Vancouver was such an eyesore that even the ring fail looks more elegant than that pile of sticks around a lollipop. Like a buddy of mine described our cauldron in Vancouver; it was in Paralympic mode. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nzl 43 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 What was teh unforgivable similarity between the start of the Vancouver CC and Sochi OC? OMFG, you need to learn how to read. I do not say in that post that Vancouver's oc is comparable to Sochi's oc at all. Take a second look at things before you denounce them. I was talking about a skit based on the fauliure at Sochi's oc at the cc being too similar to what Vancouver did in there cc. You are just looking through my post and seeing where you can try and poke holes. It's not gonna happen. *(first Sochi oc) Sochi cc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scotguy 330 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Well maybe you should compose the statement in a proper way in the first place, the way it was written was not what it appeared to be implying. And just for your future information, I am able to read very well, in all 3 languages I am competent in. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nzl 43 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 If you were reading on from the quote above it then it would make perfect sense. But obviously you weren't because you were just trying to bring up nonsense to make my points less credible. You need to get over this. Seriously. You're not gonna get any where trying to spoon feed me a perfect version of the world (where Russia and Scotland reign supreme) (Perfectly reign supreme) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scotguy 330 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 You are bringing up your own nonsense, you do not need my help for that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nzl 43 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Really because you are the one that just brought up a qoute from a couple days a ago when this argument was over. Just think deeply about what you are saying and if necessary then go back and have a look at exactly what you have done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scotguy 330 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 This is no argument, I am simply holding you accountable to the dribble that you have been dribbling. The more you dribble, no more I shall wipe. So, The Sochi opening was such a stunning event, the music and the ariel props got me the most, so amazing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nzl 43 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Sochi if my Sochi is good but you can't ignore its downfalls message is dribble then what is your I love Sochi so much that there can't be anything they could do better banter? Profuse vomiting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul 617 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 ted ligety just laid down an unbelievable 1st gs run Sochi if my Sochi is good but you can't ignore its downfalls message is dribble then what is your I love Sochi so much that there can't be anything they could do better banter? Profuse vomiting? Sochi is amazingly good, love it all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scotguy 330 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Sochi if my Sochi is good but you can't ignore its downfalls message is dribble then what is your I love Sochi so much that there can't be anything they could do better banter? Profuse vomiting? Spoken like a true academic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nzl 43 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Sochi is amazingly good, love it all. Yeah but do you believe like scotguy that they could do nothing better? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul 617 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Yeah but do you believe like scotguy that they could do nothing better? kinda, i think they are killing it. would have liked the #5 ring to open Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nzl 43 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Avoiding the question. I answered your question and beyond you must be extremely thick. And just in case you question my choice of words, no I could not speak when I was born. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nzl 43 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Again I would like to apologise for taking over this thread. I guess it's a problem you face on all open forms. I'm sure scotguy should be man enough to apologise also. As shown, he now has a place to direct his critisim at me (which has progressed to completely ungames related attacks) and although he has declined the offer I'm sure he will at some time. Thanks for bearing through that firery period and I hope you can continue with you're discussion. Which it is only 4 or 5 days to the CC. Excited. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juso 42 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 That's because the indoor cauldron in Vancouver was such an eyesore that even the ring fail looks more elegant than that pile of sticks around a lollipop. I really don't think it looked that bad, lobsided sure,but each to their own. Combined with the clever camera angles and the OC set/stages in BC place, I think still the indor caudlron still made made for an impressive and nice image at the end of the ceremony broadcast. I Agree that in still photos it was not the best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1693 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 The whole thing about the 2010 cauldron, both in and out, is that it was huge and clunky; trying too hard to be clever...and tripped up in that pursuit. I mean 4 legs and a central brazier?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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