intoronto Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 "Willis, who recently recaptured ownership of the copyright to the iconic song, has even been invited to perform it at the Sochi Olympics." Sorry the original lead singer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 So it will be lit by the unlit torch which went onto space? That's a nice touch, although it still doesn't count as lighting it on space. It was a silly pretext to justify sending the "torch" into space and making it part of the relay. I really hope the IOC puts a tamp on such over-the-top displays including those underwater legs. Like who really sees it there...except for the fish??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Oh, okay - at first I misread the Xinhua report as "The Olympic flame will be lit at the main stadium from the torch of which one specimen was once exposed in the space." Which sums up as: "The Olympic flame will be lit from a torch." My initial reaction of course was: "Really????? No way!!!!" If they really use the torch that went to space, it's a silly stunt indeed. One can't even prove that it's the very same torch. And I mean, what will they do if that very torch doesn't work on opening night or explodes in flames, like some of its siblings? So I won't really buy it that it will be exactly that torch, but it doesn't matter anyway, because it adds no meaning whatsoever to the lighting of the cauldron. And reading such reports, I get an increasing feeling that Sochi will stage a Winter Disneyland, with lots of constrained and hollow "bang boom bang" and "glitzy shiny" moments, but a certain lack of substance and convincing narrative. And to sum all this up: With only one month to go, the Sochi Games still leave me appallingly cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 They tagged that particular torch somehow. Just seems so contrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 It was a silly pretext to justify sending the "torch" into space and making it part of the relay. I really hope the IOC puts a tamp on such over-the-top displays including those underwater legs. Like who really sees it there...except for the fish??? True, but one must remember that Sydney had such an underwater leg, too. And I must say that I found that one quite impressive - with that torch burning brightly under water, in nice tropical blue water. It fit somehow, too, because the torch was visiting Oceania. Sochi's underwater leg, however just was a poor rip-off, in a cold, dark, opaque lake and the flame burning from a wick awkwardly put on top of the actual torch. It's a bit like Beijing's copy of Athens' global torch relay: It was simply unnecessary and then not even carried out well. Here's a picture of the Sydney underwater leg: As opposed to Sochi's: http://media.olympics.com.au/files/aocMedia/aocImage/imageHiRes/underwater_torch.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illustrado Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 some pictures (finally) from SSC https://pt.foursquare.com/v/%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD-%D1%84%D0%B8%D1%88%D1%82--fisht-olympic-stadium/4c74cb7d3adda143b79d05af/photos?openPhotoId=52ceafca498ef09affff8fdf credit to ranma saotome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 /\/\ Those are so very old fotos. I mean the stadium isn't even completed there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tickle Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 A few more recent internal ones, kind of showing the built up stadium floor, again from Skyscrapercity.com Oooh yes and in one of the pics you can see they will be blatantly ripping of London 2012 hospital beds LOL http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/fotogaleria/52b4704de4b00de183370f18/sochi-russia-a-espera-dos-jogos-olimpicos-de-inverno-em-2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarkSnow2012 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 re https://pt.foursquare.com/v/%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD-%D1%84%D0%B8%D1%88%D1%82--fisht-olympic-stadium/4c74cb7d3adda143b79d05af/photos?openPhotoId=52ceafca498ef09affff8fdf /\/\ Those are so very old fotos. I mean the stadium isn't even completed there. They aren't all old, but I do wish there was some magic way to sort them into "date taken" order! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen-Seth Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 re https://pt.foursquare.com/v/%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD-%D1%84%D0%B8%D1%88%D1%82--fisht-olympic-stadium/4c74cb7d3adda143b79d05af/photos?openPhotoId=52ceafca498ef09affff8fdf They aren't all old, but I do wish there was some magic way to sort them into "date taken" order! Is it just me or does this picture seem to show the skeletal outline of a human form? Almost looks like a giant marionette? It was taken on Dec. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 /\/\ I saw that. I can only imagine that's a mock-up for a golem or Prometheus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Or any other larger-than-life human figure. So it could be anything (or rather: anybody). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarkSnow2012 Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Almost looks like a giant marionette? You know what- I believe they might do it! That computer-controlled railroad system in the roof really could be used to manpulate colossal marionettes. Oooh, this could be rather fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 You know what- I believe they might do it! That computer-controlled railroad system in the roof really could be used to manpulate colossal marionettes. Oooh, this could be rather fun. yeah, BIG Brother watching. But it would slow and turgid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikarus360 Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 I didn't saw the pic of the marionette until now, but yeah, considering local culture in the region where Sochi is located also has a figure similar to Prometheus (I forgot his name but he was a giant) they'll probably draw a parallel between these two for the ceremony. Also this pretty much confirms the hangar is to host larger than life props which will be used for the ceremony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 So Firebird and Petrushka? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 So Firebird and Petrushka? Ruslan & Ludmilla; they will be drawing on a lot of the very graphic legends of Russian folklore. Those supposed ships of Peter the Great & I wouldn't be surprised they'd present some super-spectacular ISS-type-docking show, hence the reason for those big hangars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 some super-spectacular ISS-type-docking show, Sorry baron, but what do you mean by that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Sorry baron, but what do you mean by that? Oh, something like the "space" bit in Beijing's opening...but the Russians think they own space...so they'll attempt something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Mata Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Well, space surely can't be skipped in a Russian ceremony because folks there are very proud of their firsts in that department. OTOH, this ceremony is probably going to be delivered like the follow-up of this cluttered torch relay and meaningful narrative will most certainly be lost in such an overworked show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattygs Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Well, space surely can't be skipped in a Russian ceremony because folks there are very proud of their firsts in that department. OTOH, this ceremony is probably going to be delivered like the follow-up of this cluttered torch relay and meaningful narrative will most certainly be lost in such an overworked show. I wouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions. Sochi has an extremely experienced team driving the concepts that they have decided on, and from the very very brief teaser of the ideas they wanted to portray, it sounds like it is reasonably cohesive. Keep in mind, Scott Givens is one of the key guys here, and of recent time he has been the go to guy for creative by the IOC, on a number of judging panels for Olympic design. He also delivered what is probably one of the most complete creative concepts of an Olympic look of the Games, with Salt Lake 2002. When you have someone like that contributing to the show, I don't think it's going to be a lazy production. And while many will scof at the authoritarian control of these Sochi Games, who would have thought that one of the most remembered and well loved moments of an Olympic ceremony would be delivered by the USSR. That being the goodbye Misha portion of the Moscow 80 closing. I actually think we are going to see both an impressive and complete production, and with volunteers involved, it's still going to have alot of heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Yeah, it's amusing that the "rate the OC" critiques have started already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Mata Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 probably and most certainly, guys! probably and most certainly! Chill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazerblaz3 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Yeah, shouldn't we make a drinking game guide for the OC before we start rating it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Yeah, shouldn't we make a drinking game guide for the OC before we start rating it? Nah. We don't do that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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