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The trouble with trying to converse with you, is that one knows you're going to disregard any insights we may share into Olympic politics, and instead subject us to a wordy lecture on geopolitics and

Gotta say, I'm warming, both emotionally and intellectually, to Krakow. Okay, it's early days yet, and I'll wait and see what the general consensus of the technical plans from the applicant files are,

Almaty is not straddling the benchmark. I understand you really don't like them. They're not my first choice either, but they ARE technically capable -- no question. They were always going to make the

Breaking but still not confirmed news from Krakow.

Krakow bid comitee will be disbanded in Monday, 14th of April due to 'Mr Walczak issue'.

Briefly, husband of Chairman Ms Marczulajtis-Walczak offered 15 000 PLN for writing a flattering article about the committee by a local blogger. In fact that was only journalistic provocation.

Read the transcript from the conversation between Walczak and journalist. Comitee was looking for someone who would prepare real and truthful articles on the internet and would design leaflets. It is normal that organisations are looking for somebody. Everything would be contracted with a contract of specified work. Officially. The problem is that a person who is connected with Jagna Marczulajtis involved in that project even though he is not in a Comitee. Jagna Marczulajtis's husband even criticised Comitee for low amount information about Olympic Games project. Summing up, nobody broke law but it looks unfrofessional .. but who would suppose that a journalist prepared provocation.

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They've pulled out?

No, the Kraków 2022 Committee will be probably replaced, but I don't need to tell you how bad it looks.

The bid is still on, because the final decision is up to the Polish Olympic Committee, and they really don't want to pull out. They would look like morons to the IOC, considering Poznan withdrew its YOG application just a year ago.

Summing up, nobody broke law but it looks unfrofessional

That's true but media used it as an excuse for another Two Minutes Hate towards Krakow bid. Of course, they don't mention their own hypocrisy, forgetting that many articles they publish are paid by sponsors.

The damage in public opinion is big, I can't really see the way to restore it in one month. Any promotional PR campaign will be ridiculed and criticized for spending public founds.

One thing that could be helpful in winning the referendum is people's contrariness. Many citizens may be a bit pissed off because of the way how Krakow is recently depicted in national media (also by many Krakowians, mostly leftists). Sometimes it looks like there is nothing more here than football hooligans killing each other in broad daylight, smog worse than in Beijing, complete lack of snow in Zakopane, all that "Oslo has everything, Krakow has nothing" crap.

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Read the transcript from the conversation between Walczak and journalist. Comitee was looking for someone who would prepare real and truthful articles on the internet and would design leaflets. It is normal that organisations are looking for somebody. Everything would be contracted with a contract of specified work. Officially. The problem is that a person who is connected with Jagna Marczulajtis involved in that project even though he is not in a Comitee. Jagna Marczulajtis's husband even criticised Comitee for low amount information about Olympic Games project. Summing up, nobody broke law but it looks unfrofessional .. but who would suppose that a journalist prepared provocation.
My opinion, and media coverage are totally separated things. Trust me.
Its time for CPR Electroshock here. One huge move, but will be there somebody apart me interested in whole idea?
Sacrifice Marczułatis and allow to lynch her by media. Asap in light cameras appoint a new committee. Then try to put into media stream information that whole media sh*t about Krakow 2022 is Warsaw inspired, and the want to devaluate Krakow position. We need divide people there (OMG what im saying is completely against my beliefs), but divide in a way that can bring better results of referendum in Krakow. Divide between Krakow and rest of country.
I like Marczułajtis, I appreciate some cool steps and the way she read IOC game. The only curse is that she is neither a politician nor a manager. Shes alone with her ambition.
Also I had the opportunity to meet Mr Walczak some time ago and my impressions were he is such a straightforward man, very willing to help, but completely without skills and soooo naive.
I rate chance of Krakow going to candidate phase as 15-25%. For example one month ago it was about 70-80%.
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Sacrifice Marczułatis and allow to lynch her by media. Asap in light cameras appoint a new committee. Then try to put into media stream information that whole media sh*t about Krakow 2022 is Warsaw inspired, and the want to devaluate Krakow position. We need divide people there (OMG what im saying is completely against my beliefs), but divide in a way that can bring better results of referendum in Krakow. Divide between Krakow and rest of country.

This is kinda awful but I tend to agree with you. This really looks like the whole thing is Warsaw-inspired, just look at those media coverege from last two weeks. At least three time I've heard that we should avoid the humilitation ("There is no snow in Zakopane" LOL), drop the bid and just create a beautiful SOG bid for our glorious capital city.

It's not like we haven't seen it before. Why didn't the government help Poznan when they struggled with finance for YOG? What about Wroclaw bidding for EXPO?

I'm just waiting for an opinion poll limited directly to Krakow citizens. I guess it might really differ from polls carried out in the rest of the country.

Sacrificing Jagna sounds awful but I think she doesn't really want to continue the whole thing as a chairman. Why would she? She was betrayed by her colleagues from Civic Platform party, they sucked up to the Mayor and supported the referendum.

Also I had the opportunity to meet Mr Walczak some time ago and my impressions were he is such a straightforward man, very willing to help, but completely without skills and soooo naive.

Naivety of Mr Walczak is inconceivable. The "journalist" (more like blogger) we are talking about, works for LoveKrakow.pl webportal, and they were against the bid from the very beginning.

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I'm baffled by all the Polish politics.

Well, Poland shouldn't be treated as an exception...

Norway dropped its bid for 2018 OWG , France came up with suicidal Annecy for 2018, Leipzig 2012, Osaka 2008...

Weren't those bids conditioned by internal politics? (I might be wrong :) )

I think a games in Krakow would be awesom. And I hope Jagna stays around, as she was one of my favorite parts of the bid.

I'm not Jagna's spokesman, but it surely looks like she is really fed up with the whole negativity in media.

You're saying Warsaw is trying to force Krakow out for its own Olympic ambition? Sheesh :o

No, Petrpetr and Me say this :) I wouldn't have said it six months ago, but this is what we are facing here in Krakow right now.

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Sacrificing Jagna sounds awful but I think she doesn't really want to continue the whole thing as a chairman. Why would she? She was betrayed by her colleagues from Civic Platform party, they sucked up to the Mayor and supported the referendum.

At first, I thought it is advantage. She wasnt too 'Civic Platformish' for the other parties. Now we see how weak is comitee.

I'm not Jagna's spokesman, but it surely looks like she is really fed up with the whole negativity in media.

True. Imho her work is done. Her husband probably killed her biggest career task in live (except 4th place in SLC 2002) and her reputation also. I do not envy the situation at home ;-) .

So is this a thing in Poland? Is Warsaw known for spending money on & doing things for itself at the expense of the rest of the country?

Thats true.... For example Warsaw build National Stadium for 1 bln USD from public bugdet. Now Warsaw is constructiing next metro line mostly from central funds too. But its not the clue of problem.

Clue is that all mass media in Poland are located in Warsaw. And their point of view is streaming each day in the most common newspapers, tvs, websites. Can you imagine that since month when we have access to Krakow docs noone even show it in media? No one said about real cost that comitee has published. But f.ex. photoshoping of main photo promoting bid was main news for one week. Each day from newspapers, television, internet are flowing the half-truths and lies. I live in this country 25 years, and i swear i see something like this very first time.

Im the last, who will lost hope, but each day Im keeping figers crossed more for Oslo.

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I live in this country 25 years, and i swear i see something like this very first time.

Exactly, I'm 29 y.o, and I can't remember media-bashing comparable to what is happenning right now.

I think Poles in general might be experienced the same thing as Swedes in 1997 when Stockholm bidded for SOG 2004.

I wouldn't be suprised if someone put Krakow Arena on fire <bad joke>

Im the last, who will lost hope, but each day Im keeping figers crossed more for Oslo.

Polish media already crowned Oslo as a host, completely ignoring Almaty and Beijing.

I'm with you petrpetr, keeping figers crossed more for Oslo.

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So you're suggesting that the media in Warsaw are actively sabotaging Krakow's bid, (presumably) do that Warsaw can get its Olympic chance at 2024?

*so that Warsaw...

Sorry yoshi, nobody will give you a straight answer :)

There are many completely stupid events planned to held in National Stadium in Warsaw. Polish media praised all of them.

Krakow 2022 WOG? Hammer right in the head...

Go figure

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Isn't there some snow show or something in the National Stadium, Warsaw?

Well, they planned an artificial ski jumping hill in National Stadium.

Fortunately, FIS was really against that ridiculousness and forbid the whole thing.

And what do you mean by "some snow"? Every region in Poland expectes snow in Nov-Feb/Mar period.

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So the simple answer is probably "Yes".

Nope... It's a yes/no situation.

"Sorry yoshi, nobody will give you a straight answer"

Do you expect some drama here? Krakow is up to deliver :)

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I wouldn't be suprised if someone put Krakow Arena on fire <bad joke>

We both know that new elevation of Krakow Arena is fireproof ;-) (we must figure out another way of destroying it)

I'm with you petrpetr, keeping figers crossed more for Oslo.

Norwegians, do your job well ;-) I want to sleep well in 2022.

So the simple answer is probably "Yes". A great shame if one city is willing to stoop so low to stop another in the same country :(

Whole issue between Krakow and Warsaw is probably as old as both city last. Krakow probably lost not only OG in 2022 (and OG in any time) but also last hope that we can expect some investition from central budget here.

Can you imagine that now (or within 3 years) Warsaw will have direct highway connection with Gdansk, Poznan, Wroclaw, Lodz, and even not started construction of road between Warsaw and 2nd large city in Poland, 10nd outsourcing center in the World, 1st touristic direction in central Europe - Krakow?

OG in 2022 was a chance for Krakow to stay as an important city in Europe. Warsaw and governement marginalizes the importance of Krakow each year.

But what is most important (!) OG was chance to do some developement in winter sports infrastructure for whole Poland.

Yes, we had 4 gold medals in Sochi and finished 11. in overall medal standings but...

- no covered speed skating track in Poland -> 3 medals here.

- only one cross country resort in whole 39mln people country -> Justyna Kowalczyk - double olympic champion

- no biathlon resort since 2 months -> 2 medals in last World Championships

Then how for f*cking sake all media can say that we dont need winter sport developement now! And this same journalists will blame all sportsmen when in PC 2018 and later they wont repeat Sochi success. Guys from newsrooms are sitting in their comfortable offices, writing junk news, and blaming guys that are spending 80% of year abroad, far from their families, wifes, husbands, childrens, practicing hard each day for lack of success.

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