Gangwon 259 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 The little translation incident just sums up why the question system is so bias towards English speaking (first language) cities. It's all just so awkward and difficult. The whole procedure makes it difficult to sound like you're giving a well thought out and confident answer. Im impressed at the Japanese language effort though, well done. I agree that there needs to be less criticism for language abilities, accent or way of speaking. I wasn't all that impressed with the answers though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr.bernham 384 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 What time is the announcement? 3-4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deloxley 11 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 As a Madrid native, I would be angry as hell if my taxes are used to deliver a shitty presentation! Let´s see what they do now... they have to focus on their strenghts and try to explain the weaknesses that are basically the economic issues. They should explain well that all the macroeconomic variables have turned around and that the country is actually getting out of the crissis and well, I think that as Madrid and the whole country is a very multicultural city (actually one of the countries with the higher % of foreign residents), they should mention that as well. And of course, they should play the emotional card as well because at the end of the day, the IOC already have the figures and facts about each bid and this is their chance to change their vote! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave199 57 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Madrid has a great opportunity to take the bull by its horns with the presentation here. Istanbul's wasn't that great. Tokyo's was good but playing the sympathy card really rubbed me the wrong way and the "I'm about to cry" to win some votes came off as very contrived. The bid videos were great, the venue plan seems to be strong. They lacked at really answering the main points of questions trying to go around it. "We Guarantee", "There will be no problem with Fukishima", etc. It's like they're beating around the bush. Hopefully Madrid is well prepared to answer the questions that will be presented to them. We already know #1 it will be about the state of their economy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Filipe_Golias 20 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 The Fukushima question would always be an issue, bue regarding the transport question by Prince Albert: they've built this bid for months and months, with the experience of a past bid on top of it - how couldn't anyone answer that clearly and unequivocally? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr.bernham 384 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 If Madrid gives a good presentation I think they'll take this. Both Istanbul and Tokyo failed at answering major concerns about their bids.Those answers were not persuasive. They really were not prepared, but I found that Istanbul had a more unique feel- despite Tokyo's emotions it seemed very generic to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattperiolat 35 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Damn, overslept and missed Istanbul. Here's the thing about Tokyo. I believe that they will deliver a safe and efficient Games, but it feels so slick, so polished, it feels sterile. Why should I feel excited if Tokyo gets the Games? I'm sure it would be fine, but I do not feel an excitement, a heart, to the bid. It feels like something for the converted, not to convert. YMMV of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr.bernham 384 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 The Fukushima question would always be an issue, bue regarding the transport question by Prince Albert: they've built this bid for months and months, with the experience of a past bid on top of it - how couldn't anyone answer that clearly and unequivocally? That's where I think they really destroyed their shot...they tip toed around it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DannyelBrazil 703 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 I wish I could watch, but Im spending the day with my sister in law far from home. Enjoy guys, later I'll be around Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phandrosis 171 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 If Madrid does well, we can hope for a Madrid-Tokyo final round and let the best man win. I don't think Tokyo has really dropped the ball. They had a good presentation and showed the missing passion. The Fukushima problem should have been adressed more, but it's a very difficult thing to predict so their answers are based on the data they have, hopefully. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Olympian2004 511 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 What time is the announcement? At 5 p.m. local time, that is 8 p.m. GMT. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr.bernham 384 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Damn, overslept and missed Istanbul. Here's the thing about Tokyo. I believe that they will deliver a safe and efficient Games, but it feels so slick, so polished, it feels sterile. Why should I feel excited if Tokyo gets the Games? I'm sure it would be fine, but I do not feel an excitement, a heart, to the bid. It feels like something for the converted, not to convert. YMMV of course. I know how yo feel,I caught the last 30 minutes of Istanbul and slept through the coffee break. I woke up right when Rogg announced Tokyo's turn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
August 1 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Hopefully somebody asks Madrid representatives something about the Dr. Fuentes doping scandal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
59% 1 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Does anyone have a quick recap of the Istanbul presentation? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy 70 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Hopefully Madrid is well prepared to answer the questions that will be presented to them. We already know #1 it will be about the state of their economy. Are your trains safe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Filipe_Golias 20 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Are your trains safe? Ouch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deloxley 11 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Are your trains safe? Nice question..like if accidents never happened in Istanbul of Tokyo. They should have asked then: do you guarantee that we wont have an earthquake in Tokyo? Please, be nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave199 57 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Are your trains safe? Wow...well it was the drivers fault wasn't it? That would be a terrible question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deloxley 11 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Are your trains safe? Or are you mad that Spanish technology is better nowadays building high speed trains than France? Thats why we are building now the most expensive high speed train line in Saudi Arabia and not France. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy 70 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Or are you mad that Spanish technology is better nowadays building high speed trains than France? Thats why we are building now the most expensive high speed train line in Saudi Arabia and not France. Don't remember a TGV flying off the rails...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ikarus360 605 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 That reminds me when certain prince of Monaco brought the ETA question on the table. Luckily since they pretty much gave up arms, that won't be an issue anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1700 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 COFFEE break is TOOOOO LONG!! Hurry up Princess Anne and Nawal!! U're holding up an int'l audience!! Get ready with your questions, ALbertito -- and get that friggin' mic ready!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deloxley 11 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Don't remember a TGV flying off the rails...... And I hope it never happens! Get online and get some information about how to improve your IQ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tutankamon 3 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Come on Madriddddd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ikarus360 605 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Couldn't watch Istambul presentation (I was asleep) how was it? I saw parts of Tokyo presentation, though (kinda nice, although the president of the organizing comittee was all "We're the best option, vote for us, Tokyo" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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