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Yes, not the same city...but the difference is so big that I think it can be compared:

-26% (85% in 2005 to 59% in 2016) for Paris opinion and -18% (79% to 61%) in France.

+26% (59% in New York 2005 to 85% in Los Angeles) and 54% in USA 2005 to ???? (it would be interrested to have the figures for USA)

It seems the misstrust is bigger in Europe than in America (see all lost referendums)

I vaguely remember a poll from the summer stating 89% of Americans support an Olympic Games within the country.
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Rendering of the Olympic stadium (stade de France) and the aquatic center. 

Because Baron.

It seems the misstrust is bigger in Europe than in America (see all lost referendums)

Support for the Olympics was also terrible in Boston before they cancelled their bid. Los Angeles is simply an aberration because it hosted a financially profitable Olympics within the lifetime of people over 30.

People in Los Angeles live in an Olympic bubble. They genuinely think an Olympics in 2024 will work the same for them as it did in 1984. The rest of the USA is not nearly as enthusiastic.

I vaguely remember a poll from the summer stating 89% of Americans support an Olympic Games within the country.

Provided that it does not use any taxpayer money. If any money from taxpayers from their city were to be used, support immediately drops to 52%.

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Support for the Olympics was also terrible in Boston before they cancelled their bid. Los Angeles is simply an aberration because it hosted a financially profitable Olympics within the lifetime of people over 30.

People in Los Angeles live in an Olympic bubble. They genuinely think an Olympics in 2024 will work the same for them as it did in 1984. The rest of the USA is not nearly as enthusiastic.

Provided that it does not use any taxpayer money. If any money from taxpayers from their city were to be used, support immediately drops to 52%.

An LA 2024 cost overruns now seems like a highly unlikely scenario. A profitable games is still questionable, but a game that goes into the red seems every day more unlikely.

Some safeguards have been mentioned by state politicians just in case, but I seriously don't see how they could burn through billions of dollars when there are no stadiums or villages being built.

Two new stadiums will be completed ahead of 2024 (NFL Stadium and LAFC Football Stadium) for non-Olympic reasons, so really it will free up that money to be used elsewhere.

Not to take away from Budapest or Rome, but it seems at least at this point like it will come down to LA or Paris.

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An LA 2024 cost overruns now seems like a highly unlikely scenario.

Based on what exactly??? There are lots of venues to be built. Even many of those that "exist" will need massive retrofits.

Also, there's a lot more in an Olympic budget than the cost of building venues and housing.

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Based on what exactly??? There are lots of venues to be built. Even many of those that "exist" will need massive retrofits.

Also, there's a lot more in an Olympic budget than the cost of building venues and housing.

Anyway, the cost of housing is not really a problem as it will be used after the games. So, it is only the cost of the adaptation after the games that should be considered.

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Based on what exactly??? There are lots of venues to be built. Even many of those that "exist" will need massive retrofits.

Also, there's a lot more in an Olympic budget than the cost of building venues and housing.

Number of stadiums to be built = 0

Number of Olympic Villages to be built = 0

Those two alone usually use up most of the budget.

LA has a temporary beach volleyball venue and pool to assemble inside the new LAFC stadium, but will that really cost nearly $2 Billion???

Security, like with the Salt Lake games of 2002 and every Superbowl are covered by the feds.

I know there are other things that go into a bid, but the big white elephants that usually push a bid into the red are noticeably absent from the LA bid.

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Paris Bid For 2012 Games, But Lost To London By 4 Votes.

I Hope Paris Wins This Time.

If Paris Is Awarded For 2024 That Will Be Cool.

Paris Is Doing Good Right Now For 2024, They Lost The 2012 Bid The Last Time.

Why do you feel the need to spam the same old pointless crap over and over - don't you have better things to fill up your post count with?

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http://gamesbids.com/eng/future-olympic-games/the-rio-2016-olympic-flame-starts-a-twitter-account-to-live-tweet-torch-relay/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gamesbidsrss+%28GamesBids.com+Headlines%29

In this article, it is written:

A Rio 2016 spokesperson said that the cauldron housing the flame during the Games will be lit at the Maracana Stadium during the opening ceremony and then “go from the Maracana to downtown. But exactly where remains a secret”.

So, maybe Paris could move the flame at the top of the Eiffel tower after the opening ceremony?

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https://sportetsociete.org/2016/04/30/jo-2024-anne-hidalgo-et-nicolas-sarkozy-ensemble-pour-paris/

Anne Hidalgo (Paris Mayor) would have asked Nicolas Sarkozy (former president) to help promote the Paris 2024 bid.

And he would have said "yes of course".

Quite strange to me as Anne Hidalgo and the current president François Hollande are both from the socialist party while Nicolas Sarkozy is from the republican party...

Is François Hollande not good enough at promoting the bid?


https://sportetsociete.org/2016/04/30/jo-2024-anne-hidalgo-et-nicolas-sarkozy-ensemble-pour-paris/

Anne Hidalgo (Paris Mayor) would have asked Nicolas Sarkozy (former president) to help promote the Paris 2024 bid.

And he would have said "yes of course".

Quite strange to me as Anne Hidalgo and the current president François Hollande are both from the socialist party while Nicolas Sarkozy is from the republican party...

Is François Hollande not good enough at promoting the bid?

or maybe just a way to show unity (not like Donald Trump ;))

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https://sportetsociete.org/2016/04/30/jo-2024-anne-hidalgo-et-nicolas-sarkozy-ensemble-pour-paris/

Anne Hidalgo (Paris Mayor) would have asked Nicolas Sarkozy (former president) to help promote the Paris 2024 bid.

And he would have said "yes of course".

Quite strange to me as Anne Hidalgo and the current president François Hollande are both from the socialist party while Nicolas Sarkozy is from the republican party...

Is François Hollande not good enough at promoting the bid?

Though François Hollande makes efforts :)

He should attend Rio games... He met Thomas Bach in 2013, 2014, 2015 and certainly once again in 2016!

https://sportetsociete.org/2016/05/01/rio-2016-le-president-francois-hollande-assistera-aux-jeux/

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https://sportetsociete.org/2016/05/03/jo-2024-pour-paris-lemplacement-du-centre-aquatique-sera-acte-le-06-juin/

The location of the aquatic center (the only venue to be built) will be chosen on the 6th of june.

The initial choice has been challenged by to other locations (all of them near stade de France)

http://www.leparisien.fr/espace-premium/sports/la-future-piscine-olympique-provoque-des-remous-19-02-2016-5559157.php#xtref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.info-stades.fr%2Fforum%2Fpost242763.html

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