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I'm sorry, but what is this "concertation" thing? I'm just not getting it. Is it to submit suggestions or vision ideas?

Yes, anybody can submit suggestions and anybody can vote for or against.

The best suggestions will be seriously analysed.

They are proposals to create bicycle paths ("veloroutes") between the venues.

Neige, what do you mean by "couvrir?" Do you want a platform or deck built over the A1 for bicycles? Something like this:

http://www.psfk.com/2014/01/london-elevated-bike-lane.html

A part of the A1 highway is already underground near the stade France. The idea would be to continue the job in order to create a green corridor (bikes and pedestrians) from "Grand Paris" zone to "Paris Centre" zone.

Any inovative solution (like in your link http://www.psfk.com/2014/01/london-elevated-bike-lane.html) would be interresting :)

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I see this race much like the 2008 race. You have a heavy favorite in Paris (like Beijing in 2008) and a strong contender to finish second (Los Angeles. I know Paris was 3rd behind Toronto). Los Angeles sets up very nicely for 2028 much like Paris did for 2012, though the latter couldn't quite close the deal. Geopolitics favor a North American bid for 2028. It's hard to see Paris being denied again. In fact, I'll go on to say Paris wins the 2024 race in a landslide by the second round of voting just like Beijing did.

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I see this race much like the 2008 race. You have a heavy favorite in Paris (like Beijing in 2008) and a strong contender to finish second (Los Angeles. I know Paris was 3rd behind Toronto). Los Angeles sets up very nicely for 2028 much like Paris did for 2012, though the latter couldn't quite close the deal. Geopolitics favor a North American bid for 2028. It's hard to see Paris being denied again. In fact, I'll go on to say Paris wins the 2024 race in a landslide by the second round of voting just like Beijing did.

I'll agree that the comparison between Paris 2024 and Beijing 2008 does have merit - but I think Los Angeles will perform better than Toronto did for 2008.

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'Performing better', though, still doesn't necessary equal winning. I still say that Paris would take this with a comfortable margin. And who knows, while Rome may seem "boring & run down" to some & not expected to do well, they could very well pull off a Madrid 2016 at the expense of L.A.

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I have a question about arena 92 that should host gymanastics.

The announced capacity is 17500 spectators. So I think they want to use the second configuration that can be seen here (auditorium mode: 20000 spectators)

http://www.arena92.com/a-modular-space/varying-capacity

config-spectacle-20000.jpg

So, 3 stands and a giant screen on the forth side.

Wouldn't it be more clever to buid a temporary stand on the 4th side an get about 25000 spectators? (but no giant screen in that case)

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OMG can you imagine what would happen if Paris lost to Los Angeles.....it would be incredibly sad to watch. I didn't really follow when Paris lost to London, but that must be Paris' nightmare...can it happen again. I wish LA would just pull out and let people get some sleep.


I think Paris is the front-runner no matter who else is in the race. Only some unexpected upset can change things.

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OMG can you imagine what would happen if Paris lost to Los Angeles.....it would be incredibly sad to watch. I didn't really follow when Paris lost to London, but that must be Paris' nightmare...can it happen again. I wish LA would just pull out and let people get some sleep.

I think Paris is the front-runner no matter who else is in the race. Only some unexpected upset can change things.

But that's exactly it. The IOC wants a show. RIght now, they could distribute the SOGs 12 years in advance, (Paris 24, LA28, Durban 32) the way they close deals with NBC 6 Games in advance. Well, for one, the dumbf*ckers FIFA screwed up their double-awarding -- so, of course, the IOC will now play every round for all its worth.

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Bernard Lapasset steps down as World Rugby chief for Paris Olympic bid

Wednesday 2 March 2016 20.48 GMT

Bernard Lapasset will step down as World Rugby’s chairman in May to focus on spearheading Paris’s bid to host the 2024 Olympics.
Lapasset has been chairman of rugby’s global governing body since 1995, overseeing the game through the transition from amateurism to the professional era.
World Rugby will appoint a new chairman in May; member unions must submit nominations by the 12 March deadline.
Lapasset said this was the right time to step back from his rugby role to focus on his co-chairmanship of Paris’s 2024 bid.
“After careful consideration I have taken the decision not to seek a further term of office as chairman of World Rugby,” said Lapasset.
“I am proud of my time at the helm of World Rugby, the progress made, and excited by what lies ahead for our sport, including the debut of Rugby Sevens at Rio 2016.
“My decision will allow me to devote more time to my role as co-chairman of the Paris 2024 Olympic and Paralympic Games’ bid.
“We are now entering into the heart of the campaign and nothing would give me greater pleasure than bringing the games back to Paris for a real centenary celebration of Olympism in 2024.”
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OMG can you imagine what would happen if Paris lost to Los Angeles.....it would be incredibly sad to watch. I didn't really follow when Paris lost to London, but that must be Paris' nightmare...can it happen again. I wish LA would just pull out and let people get some sleep.

I think Paris is the front-runner no matter who else is in the race. Only some unexpected upset can change things.

It would make Paris loosing to London look a billion times worse.

If you look it up, the reaction is incredibly said...it would be worse if they lost to LA.

But that's exactly it. The IOC wants a show. RIght now, they could distribute the SOGs 12 years in advance, (Paris 24, LA28, Durban 32) the way they close deals with NBC 6 Games in advance. Well, for one, the dumbf*ckers FIFA screwed up their double-awarding -- so, of course, the IOC will now play every round for all its worth.

Meh, the next four olympics will be:

Paris 2024, LA28, Durban 2032, and Sydney/Melbourne 2036.

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Meh, the next four olympics will be:

Paris 2024, LA28, Durban 2032, and Sydney/Melbourne 2036.

Meh. The next four Olympics will be ...

Durban 32 - Oz 36? NO WAY will there be back-to-back southern hemisphere SOGs.

Remember, every 3rd Olympics go back to Europe, so '36 could be Rome (or Berlin) again.

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Meh, the next four olympics will be:

Paris 2024, LA28, Durban 2032, and Sydney/Melbourne 2036.

Sydney / Melbourne is a problem, because the population of the "continent" of Oceania (really more of a gap between continents) is smaller than California, so if Rio is a success, and even more if Africa starts to provide viable hosts, the two alternating Oz cities are the logical ones to push aside for a while.

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It's quite simple: Give the Olympics to Paris and they won't be bothering the IOC for at least another 50 years (unlike a certain country that demands the Olympics every 10 years).

Great sales pitch there. "Hey IOC, just give us the Olympics so we won't keep bitching to you about it. Unlike that 'other' country that just happens to be there when you need them. You don't need them now"

Paris doesn't need to play the butthurt angle for them to win this one. They'll be fine without that and probably will still win.

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Meh, the next four olympics will be:

Paris 2024, LA28, Durban 2032, and Sydney/Melbourne 2036.

I was gonna say, but Baron beat me to it, but highly unlikely that' there'll be two consecutive Southern Hemishpere Summer Olympics. But then again, many were already proclaiming 2020 to go to South Africa, despite Rio 2016, until they got cold feet & didn't bid. But that scenario IMO was quite different since it would've been a prospect of new frontiers for the Olympic Movement.

Not so much for a relatively smallish country (population wise) like Australia that's already hosted the Olympics twice. And as Baron also pointed out, by 2036, It would've likely been 12 years from 2024 for the IOC to want to return to Europe again. I can see Rome, Berlin, even Madrid again (which by that time, it would be a good amount of time since Barcelona 1992), or Moscow/St. Petersburg or Istanbul all wanting to make a go of it. Australia's next hosting is likely to be somewhere in the 2040's, barring something else that could make it extremely favorable for them to try any earlier.

OMG can you imagine what would happen if Paris lost to Los Angeles.....it would be incredibly sad to watch. I didn't really follow when Paris lost to London, but that must be Paris' nightmare...can it happen again. I wish LA would just pull out and let people get some sleep..

I'm starting to think that it's too bad that Toronto didn't bid for 2024 afterall. Cuz judging from the membership of this forum, Paris would've been the last thing the L.A. boosters here would've had to worry about around these threads.

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Great sales pitch there. "Hey IOC, just give us the Olympics so we won't keep bitching to you about it. Unlike that 'other' country that just happens to be there when you need them. You don't need them now"

Paris doesn't need to play the butthurt angle for them to win this one. They'll be fine without that and probably will still win.

Yeah, they don't need to overdue it. Just play like everyone else and win.

Meh. The next four Olympics will be ...

Durban 32 - Oz 36? NO WAY will there be back-to-back southern hemisphere SOGs.

Remember, every 3rd Olympics go back to Europe, so '36 could be Rome (or Berlin) again.

True. Forgot about that. So in that case I predict 2036 would go to Rome or Berlin as you say. Then 2040, we go back down under, maybe in 2044 we make a return to Asia (Istanbul? India?)

Also, as FYI said, Madrid could make a realistic gamble in 2036 as could Moscow/St.Petersburg, Warsaw, Amsterdam, etc.

Though I feel like after two northern European games the IOC would be more inclined to go to Southern Europe.

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I've just opened a topic about Paris indoor venues here:

http://concertation.paris2024.org/projects/comment-renforcer-la-cohesion-sociale/consultation/concertation/opinions/accueillir-le-monde-pendant-les-jeux/discussion-autour-des-sites-indoor-de-paris-2024

Give your feeling in that discussion! (sorry it's in french, too long to be written in english)

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