Paris 2024

[AustralianFan]

Paris 2024:  Undocumented migrant workers paid under the minimum wage

This is not good. Cheap labour exploitation of undocumented migrant workers.

 

[AustralianFan]

Paris 2024 Security:  enhanced video surveillance

 

[Quaker2001]

As we've said many times, public relations is not a strong suit of the IOC.  Not helping the cause if they're being harsh on Ukraine in response to being more open and welcoming to Russian athletes.

 

[Bear]

It is confirmed that the Olympic Torch Relay will begin in Marseille, and will be taken from Athens to the city on the Belem:

https://press.paris2024.org/news/marseille-will-welcome-the-olympic-flame-as-it-begins-its-journey-through-france-6f0b-7578a.html

[AustralianFan]

Spectacular!
Yes its going to arrive on a big sailing ship.   Will be a memorable sight and an amazing way to welcome the Flame.

 

[baron-pierreIV]

From being carried on the Concorde SST in 1992 to . . . a sailing ship in 2024?  

Something doesn't seem right with that picture.  

[baron-pierreIV]

5 minutes ago, Rebecca J Ussery said:

Please tell me where can I buy a cheap plane ticket to fly to Paris?

On the internet.  

[AustralianFan]

“A group of 35 countries will demand that Russian and Belarusian athletes are banned from the 2024 Olympics, deepening the uncertainty over the Paris Games.“

 

[AustralianFan]

1 minute ago, AustralianFan said:

“A group of 35 countries will demand that Russian and Belarusian athletes are banned from the 2024 Olympics, deepening the uncertainty over the Paris Games.“

 

That’s around 17% of the total of 205 countries who participated at Tokyo 2020, as a ballpark figure, now wanting Russia and Belarus athletes banned from Paris 2024. 

So, we’re now approaching one fifth of countries heading for Paris 2024 want the ban.

 

How many more 

[Quaker2001]

10 minutes ago, AustralianFan said:

That’s around 17% of the total of 205 countries who participated at Tokyo 2020, as a ballpark figure, now wanting Russia and Belarus athletes banned from Paris 2024. 

So, we’re now approaching one fifth of countries heading for Paris 2024 want the ban.

 

How many more 

As we inch closer to next Summer, and if the IOC doesn't change their tone, I would bet it'll be the whole of Europe and most of the Americas.  With probably even more countries in the mix from elsewhere

[StefanMUC]

1 hour ago, Quaker2001 said:

As we inch closer to next Summer, and if the IOC doesn't change their tone, I would bet it'll be the whole of Europe and most of the Americas.  With probably even more countries in the mix from elsewhere

Still, it is mostly governments, not NOCs so far.

Only when (other than the Nordics/Baltics/Poles) the NOCs start opposing the IOC, there will be consequences.

As I understand it, at least in Canada, US and Germany, the NOCs are still in line with the IOC. And as I mentioned elsewhere, German govt is threatening to cut funds from sports where Russians are still allowed to participate. Our DOSB will eventually have to cave in if need be (and they want support for a 2036+ bid).

[Olympics2028]

I imagine the Olympic games in 2024, 2028, etc, will be politicized up the wazoo. Everything has become very politicized in today's world, and it's not slowing down. Then again, the 1936 games in Berlin were infamous for being politicized too, so maybe it's back to the future.

[Sir Rols]

8 hours ago, Olympics2028 said:

I imagine the Olympic games in 2024, 2028, etc, will be politicized up the wazoo. Everything has become very politicized in today's world, and it's not slowing down. Then again, the 1936 games in Berlin were infamous for being politicized too, so maybe it's back to the future.

Not even really close to being as politicised as in the past… yet

1920 and 1924 were politicised - the losing belligerents in the previous World War were not invited

1936 was politicised in terms of the host being a ruthlessly propagandising dictatorship. But otherwise, no-one boycotted and in many ways they were the apotheosis of the IOC’s desire and efforts to “keep politics out of the games”.

1948 was politicised with the losing belligerents of the previous World War not invited

1956 was politicised with a brace of countries boycotting because of either the Suez crisis or the Russian invasion of Hungary, and tensions erupted as far as physical fights between teams (Hungary and Russia) in the water polo.

1968 was politicised with hundreds of students shot dead in riots protesting the spendings on the games a week before the opening.

1972 was politicised with terrorist actions leaving it with an athlete death toll.

1976 was politicised with much of Africa boycotting over NZ’s sporting links to South Africa’s Apartheid regime

1980 was HIGHLY politicised with a number of western nations boycotting over the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and others competing but doing so without their governments’ blessings and without national flags etc. it was politicised to the point of the issue of competing at the games sparking large political demonstrations on the streets of many western countries.

1984 was HIGHLY politicised with the Soviet bloc boycotting in responses to the boycotts of the previous games.

1992 was politicised with Yugoslavia/Serbia not invited due to the Balkan wars.

1996 to the present have been largely boycott free and the IOC has been largely successful in its desires and efforts to “keep politics out of the games”.

To the issues of Paris 2024. Yes, Russian participation is being heavily discussed in sporting circles and in forums for Olympic enthusiasts such as here. I don’t think it’s an issue that’s consuming the vast bulk of the general population (at least not yet). At the end of the day, I doubt there will be boycotts of Paris, or at the most only a few MIGHT. Russia will NOT compete as a national team, though Russian athletes MAY or MAY NOT compete under some other designation.

When you say the coming games will be “politicised to the wazoo” and that 1936 was politicised, I think you’re mistakenly conflating world events with the Olympics. Yes, the world in general today is probably more ominously tense and divided than at at any time since the 1930s. And the Olympics inevitably are navigating within that background. But the games themselves today are still nowhere near as being politicised as there have been in past periods, particularly the 1970s and 80s, when politics came close to tearing the Olympics apart.

 

Edited February 12, 2023 by Sir Rols

[Quaker2001]

20 hours ago, Olympics2028 said:

I imagine the Olympic games in 2024, 2028, etc, will be politicized up the wazoo. Everything has become very politicized in today's world, and it's not slowing down. Then again, the 1936 games in Berlin were infamous for being politicized too, so maybe it's back to the future.

 

Not sure exactly what you think the common thread is with 2024 and 2028.  Yes, 2024 has already been politicized by the IOC making a point that they're trying to include Russian athletes and lashing out at Ukraine for being upset by that.  So there's a lot of Europe right now that thinks the Olympics is complicit in war crimes and at the moment, I can't argue against that stance.

 

That said, as @Sir Rols lays out, there has been a ton of politicization of the Olympics over the past 9 decades, so it's not like this isn't something we haven't seen recently.  We did, after all, come off an Olympics where a number of nations offered up a diplomatic boycott because they didn't want to appear face to face with Chinese leaders.  Many argue that's a fairly meaningless gesture, but it takes away a photo op and a little propaganda from the hosts.

 

There's a long runway between now and next summer.  So we'll see how this situation with the IOC and Russia plays out as more pressure continues to mount on the IOC (or at least I hope it does).  Which is really sad, because it feels like a long time since we've had an Olympics where the lead-up was largely free of controversy.  This should have been one of those, but through no fault of the host city/country, that's unlikely to happen so long as Russia continues to be at war with Ukraine.

[Rob2012]

An important read:

https://metro.co.uk/2023/02/13/inquiry-blames-uefa-for-paris-final-fiasco-nd-credits-liverpool-fans-for-saving-lives-18276158/

[Durban Sandshark]

Sorry FFF and FFR, you guys are gonna have to find some suitable replacement and alternative venues to play your respective sports elsewhere as the Stade De France undergoes much-needed renovations ahead of acting as the Olympic Stadium for Paris 2024, "including expanding the athletics track from eight to nine lanes, the installation of 5G technology, and erection of additional giant screens." Everything's off limits outside of the Paris 2024 Summer Olympics and Paralympics as the renovations go for at least seven months. Gonna impact rugby more like with the Six Nations Rugby.

Marseille's Velodrome and Lyon’s Groupama Stadium are lined up for the rugby. As for FFF, only the March 18-26 international window for Les Bleues and the 2023-24 Coupe De France final on May 25 next year are affected with venues TBA. Both will lose some money:

https://www.thestadiumbusiness.com/2023/02/15/stade-de-france-off-limits-in-2024-ahead-of-paris-olympics/

[SportLightning]

9 hours ago, Durban Sandshark said:

Sorry FFF and FFR, you guys are gonna have to find some suitable replacement and alternative venues to play your respective sports elsewhere as the Stade De France undergoes much-needed renovations ahead of acting as the Olympic Stadium for Paris 2024, "including expanding the athletics track from eight to nine lanes, the installation of 5G technology, and erection of additional giant screens." Everything's off limits outside of the Paris 2024 Summer Olympics and Paralympics as the renovations go for at least seven months. Gonna impact rugby more like with the Six Nations Rugby.

Marseille's Velodrome and Lyon’s Groupama Stadium are lined up for the rugby. As for FFF, only the March 18-26 international window for Les Bleues and the 2023-24 Coupe De France final on May 25 next year are affected with venues TBA. Both will lose some money:

https://www.thestadiumbusiness.com/2023/02/15/stade-de-france-off-limits-in-2024-ahead-of-paris-olympics/

Not gonna happen for Stade de France.

[Guilga]

Are you all ready for a big joke?
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1133915/iba-unveils-olympic-qualification-system

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The International Boxing Association (IBA) has revealed its own qualification system for next year’s Olympics in Paris, despite being stripped of the rights to do so by the International Olympic Committee (IOC).

The IOC announced in June last year that it would take over the running of boxing events at Paris 2024, including qualification competitions, due to concerns over governance issues within the organisation.

The IBA, led by Russian official Umar Kremlev, announced it had now "taken upon itself as the international governing body for boxing to provide a clear process and pathway" for athletes to qualify for the Games after criticising the IOC for "numerous delays" on publishing a "clear" system.

This year’s IBA Women’s and Men’s World Championships have not been included in the revised criteria ratified by the IOC Executive Board last September with the continental multi-sport events instead set used as Olympic qualifiers.

The IBA said the IOC’s decision to exclude the two World Championships was "not acceptable" and "against the principles of boxing", insisting that they will be the “main qualification events" under its own qualification system.

"The announcement of the IBA OQS [Olympic qualification system] for Paris 2024, is a necessary step to protect our athletes as the IOC proposed qualification process consisting of one competition is not acceptable and fair for the athletes," a statement from IBA read.

"The IBA reiterates its openness to cooperate with the IOC for the benefit of the boxing, its athletes, and the stability and quality of the Olympic Games product."

The IBA, led by Umar Kremlev, has criticised the IOC for failing to provide a "clear" qualification system for next year's Olympics ©Getty Images

The IBA is looking to use the criteria which had been approved by the IOC in April 2022, insisting that "no other qualification process for Paris 2024 will be accepted".

The Women's Boxing World Championships are scheduled for March 15 to 26 in New Delhi in India, followed by the Men's World Championships in Tashkent in Uzbekistan from May 1 to 14.

Under IBA’s system, the Championships run by IBA’s five continental bodies will also be used as Olympic qualifiers, as well as three Golden Belt Series events and a final qualification event, scheduled to be held in the United Arab Emirates in May next year.

A total of 248 quota places will be available, with 124 for men and 124 for women.

In response to the release of the IBA's Olympic qualification criteria, the IOC has reiterated that the International Federation will not be involved in the running of the Paris 2024's boxing qualifications and tournament.

"The only valid boxing qualification system for Paris 2024 is the one approved by the IOC EB in September 2022, published and distributed to NOCs and boxing National Federations on 6 December 2022," the IOC told insidethegames.

"Following an investigation and report by an IOC Inquiry Committee in 2019, recognition of the International Boxing Association was suspended by the IOC. 

"This suspension is still in force today."

The release of the qualification system comes at a time when a growing number of nations are pulling out of the Women's World Championships in protest at boxers from Russia and Belarus being allowed to compete under their own flags, despite the war in Ukraine, as well as concerns under the direction the organisation is moving under Kremlev.

Switzerland and The Netherlands were the latest countries yesterday to pull out of the IBA flagship event.

The USA Boxing was the first national governing body which opted against sending team to next month’s Women’s World Championships and the Men’s World Boxing Championships in May.

Ireland, Czech Republic, Canada and Sweden have since publicly declared their intention to follow suit, as well as Britain from the upcoming Women's World Championships as a minimum.

Boxing's place at the Olympic Games is at risk due to the IOC's concerns over the IBA's governance issues ©Getty Images

The IBA has pledged to provide financial assistance for athletes from boycotted nations to compete at the Women's and Men's World Championships, insisting that they should not be liable to "any political games".

George Yerolimpos, secretary general and chief executive for the IBA, claimed that the decisions made by the National Federations have been made in a "vacuum" and "did not reflect" the views of their athletes, coaches and officials.

"The confusion and misinformation within these National Federations has resulted in a steady stream of complaints from athletes, coaches, technical officials, and administrators that do not support this decision and need immediate support in making sure they can attend these events," Yerolimpos wrote in a letter.

The IBA, then known as AIBA, had its IOC recognition withdrawn in June 2019 due to concerns over judging and refereeing, financial stability and governance, leading to the IOC Boxing Task Force handling the sport at Tokyo 2020.

The organisation’s renewal of a sponsorship deal with Russian majority-state owned energy giant Gazprom has prompted a warning from the IOC that boxing could be dropped altogether from Paris 2024, having already been left off the initial programme for Los Angeles 2028.

Under the IOC’s boxing qualification model, the Santiago 2023 Pan American Games, Kraków-Małopolska 2023 European Games, Solomon Islands 2023 Pacific Games and the delayed Hangzhou 2022 Asian Games are set to be used as qualifiers.

The Accra 2023 African Games are also expected to become a qualification event, although an agreement has yet to be made between the IOC and the Association of National Olympic Committees of Africa.

Following the continental phase, the IOC plans to stage two world qualification tournaments in 2024 where the remaining quota places will be determined before the Olympics are staged in Paris.

The full IBA qualification system can be read here.

(I love that in the article page, the link is togheter with a clippy emoji!)

Well, well. IBA simply goes "YOU ARE TAKING TOO LONG!" and decides to go rogue, AGAIN. It was a long run, boxing...

[AustralianFan]

“It hopes to hire 2,700 bus drivers as well as 400 metro drivers, 700 station agents, 400 maintenance workers and 120 security guards.”

“The campaign has been launched with fewer than 18 months to go before Paris 2024 organisers plan to stage the Olympic Opening Ceremony on the River Seine in front of more than 600,000 spectators.”

 

[baron-pierreIV]

Here they come . . . 

Critical report highlights shortcomings of main Paris station for 2024 Olympics (insidethegames.biz) 

The first of many gaffes Paris 2024 will be experiencing.  Next . . .  

[AustralianFan]

What a beautiful sight.

 

[AustralianFan]

Nice concept vid of the Paris 2024 Aquatics Venue:  Centre Aquatique Olympique

 

[AustralianFan]

I thought it was already happening …..….

 

France’s Law Commission makes changes to Paris 2024 surveillance Bill

“Two changes have been made to a controversial Bill that will allow experimental artificial intelligence (AI)-powered video surveillance to be used during next year’s Olympics and Paralympics in Paris.”

“The French National Assembly’s Law Commission has adopted the two amendments during a meeting today, according to French newspaper Le Monde.”

“Among those included setting the date of ending the permission of AI video surveillance to the end of December next year.”

“The French Council of State had requested for the technology to be in use until June 30 in 2025 but December 31 in 2024 has been agreed by the Law Commission "such as to allow relevant evaluation of the device".

Credit: France’s Law Commission makes changes to Paris 2024 surveillance Bill

[Bear]

Volunteer application is now open, anyone else thinking of applying?

[Sir Rols]

I hear they’ve had a stampede of applications since they announced yellow vests as the volunteer uniform…

 

Or is this rehearsals for the OC?

Ah, the French. Such a docile lot…