hektor Posted February 9, 2014 Report Posted February 9, 2014 Terra Nova, a famous French think tank has published a report about 2024. http://www.tnova.fr/sites/default/files/03022014%20-%20JO%20candidature%20Paris.pdf Quote
hektor Posted March 3, 2014 Report Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) The team of Paris 2024 is in London today for a meeting with Lord Coe and other former members of London 2012 bid team. JO 2024 : "On aimerait bien" une candidature française, dit Bernard Lapasset Edited March 3, 2014 by hektor 1 Quote
Rob2012 Posted March 3, 2014 Report Posted March 3, 2014 Put through Google translate... Olympics 2024: "We would like" a French candidate, said Bernard Lapasset Bernard Lapasset, president of the International Rugby Board, was appointed for a possible bid by France to host the Olympic Games 2024. After the failure of the Paris 2012 Olympic Games, Annecy 2018, France could retry the coup in 2024. The maneuvers begin to establish a new bid for the summer Olympic Games. Bernard Lapasset, guest RTL Monday, March 3, has been appointed by the Minister Valérie Fourneyron head of France Olympique cell , in charge of international sports strategy of France. As the official decision of an application will be taken at the end of the year, Bernard Lapasset has shown "cautious" on the subject. "I think we really pay attention to what is prepared. Were looking for the best possible solutions to embark on something that will be great. But it is important not to go on an adventure," Has he said. Focus on the relational Bound for London, with the Minister of Sports and Chairman of the French National Olympic and Sports Committee (CNOSF), Bernard Lapasset will meet Sebastian Coe, the man who had won the British city in 2012. Suffice to say that this is not a courtesy, but an interested visit. "Absolutely, we were rivals for a day but now Europe needs to focus." Above all, France began working relationships because that's what cost him the victory in 2012. "We had the best technical documentation, it was something extraordinary. Unfortunately, it has not been sufficiently prepared on the strategic part. Should seek votes first, then we organize. Must find the reasons for each having a favorable opinion towards France. It was lost in theoretical assumptions where everyone trusted each other. No, trust is relative, "warned the 66 year old man. Bernard Lapasset, citing the project application, did not mention politicians. "We need to prioritize the athlete. That is the great lesson. Was too spoke of Sochi through commitments billion, political considerations around Russia ... When an application attempts must focus what is proposed in a dimension where the sport has 90% of the priority of conversations. " It looks like Paris is heading in the right direction with these words. Wish them the best of luck! 1 Quote
Frenchy Posted March 3, 2014 Report Posted March 3, 2014 The team of Paris 2024 is in London today for a meeting with Lord Coe and other former members of London 2012 bid team. JO 2024 : "On aimerait bien" une candidature française, dit Bernard Lapasset I fail to see what they're hoping to gain or achieve on that trip. Little or nothing I guess....... Quote
hektor Posted March 3, 2014 Report Posted March 3, 2014 Je crois, docteur, que l'homme de Néanderthal est en train de nous le mettre dans l'os. Deux intellectuels assis vont moins loin qu'une brute qui marche. Un taxi pour Tobrouk (1961) Quote
StefanMUC Posted March 3, 2014 Report Posted March 3, 2014 Put through Google translate... It looks like Paris is heading in the right direction with these words. Wish them the best of luck! Yes, if you can't beat them (for 2012), join them! Quote
Rob2012 Posted March 3, 2014 Report Posted March 3, 2014 I fail to see what they're hoping to gain or achieve on that trip. Little or nothing I guess....... Well, convincing Hollande and the French government is the main thing now if Paris is going to bid. But I don't see how speaking to the leader of a winning bid and the head of the organising committee for the last Summer Games could be anything other than constructive for Paris 2024. Quote
Roger87 Posted March 4, 2014 Report Posted March 4, 2014 Yes, if you can't beat them (for 2012), join them! Usually a good thing. Great start, i guess. Quote
Frenchy Posted March 4, 2014 Report Posted March 4, 2014 Je crois, docteur, que l'homme de Néanderthal est en train de nous le mettre dans l'os. Deux intellectuels assis vont moins loin qu'une brute qui marche. Un taxi pour Tobrouk (1961) T'as des lettres!! Personnellement je préfère Les Tontons Flingueurs ! Quote
Frenchy Posted March 4, 2014 Report Posted March 4, 2014 Well, convincing Hollande and the French government is the main thing now if Paris is going to bid. But I don't see how speaking to the leader of a winning bid and the head of the organising committee for the last Summer Games could be anything other than constructive for Paris 2024. Again I fail to see what Coe could teach us that we don't already know. Lessons on how to dis the opposition perhaps! Quote
hektor Posted March 4, 2014 Report Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) JO 2024: les Français sont favorables 51.9% of French people in favor of a Paris bid, according to a L'Equipe poll. More worrisome for a French bid, the main candidate for mayor of Paris, Anne Hidalgo, is far from enthusiastic about a Paris bid. Anne Hidalgo "pas vraiment" favorable à des Jeux olympiques à Paris en 2024 Edited March 4, 2014 by hektor Quote
Frenchy Posted March 4, 2014 Report Posted March 4, 2014 More worrisome for a French bid, the main candidate for mayor of Paris, Anne Hidalgo, is far from enthusiastic about a Paris bid. Anne Hidalgo "pas vraiment" favorable à des Jeux olympiques à Paris en 2024 Hardly surprising. Her mentor, the outgoing mayor of Paris Bertrand Delanöe whom she hopes to replace, headed the Paris 2012 bidding team! Quote
Mr Tickle Posted March 4, 2014 Report Posted March 4, 2014 Surely any information a bid can learn from a successful bid is to their benefit. If you think you have nothing to learn after 3 failed bids then you should surely expect a fourth failed bid. 3 Quote
runningrings Posted March 4, 2014 Report Posted March 4, 2014 Surely any information a bid can learn from a successful bid is to their benefit. If you think you have nothing to learn after 3 failed bids then you should surely expect a fourth failed bid. I partly agree, in that I think there was nothing particularly wrong with Paris' three recent failed bids. Paris should never have bid for 2008, and they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time - and really they very nearly had 2012 in the bag by several votes, and 1992 *should and would* of been theirs of if it weren't for the internal corruption brought on by JAS that saw his hometown of Barcelona elected instead. London would have struggled to get as many votes as Paris did for 1992 and 2008. Quote
mr.bernham Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 Surely any information a bid can learn from a successful bid is to their benefit. If you think you have nothing to learn after 3 failed bids then you should surely expect a fourth failed bid. While it's always good to have, if Paris looses a fourth time the world must be coming to an end. Quote
runningrings Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 While it's always good to have, if Paris looses a fourth time the world must be coming to an end. If they're up against Durban and a strong US city, there is a chance that it will be fourth time unlucky. Quote
Frenchy Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 Surely any information a bid can learn from a successful bid is to their benefit. If you think you have nothing to learn after 3 failed bids then you should surely expect a fourth failed bid. I never said nor think that we have nothing to learn from others, I simply stated that we had nothing to learn from Coe and his band of merry men.... Besides, if the present French government runs the bidding process the way they're running the country then, yes, we are heading for a new defeat. ....which explains why many, over here, are wary of a 2024 Paris bid. Quote
Mr Tickle Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 Personally I am hoping for Paris 2024, they need to sex it up a bit but they certainly have my vote for all its worth Quote
Frenchy Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 Personally I am hoping for Paris 2024, they need to sex it up a bit but they certainly have my vote for all its worth Thanks for that. On the other hand the ioc need to treat bidders with greater respect, stop playing playground politics, eeny meeny minie moe or spin the bottle! Otherwise they are facing a bleak future where the only bidders will be repeat offenders (Tokyo), B & C listers (Istanbul), stalkers (Madrid) and oil rich countries with dubious reputations..... Not really what dreams are made of, n'est-ce pas? Quote
hektor Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 True that Hollande and friends are obviously a liability. I really don't agree with your statement about the IOC. In retrospect, Beijing, London, Rio, Tokyo is a perfectly sound line-up of hosts. France on their side needs to learn to make timely bids. Think of Paris 2008 or Annecy 2018 for instance. If France had not bid for 2018 and made a strong bid for 2022 they would probably be the favorite together with Oslo. 1 Quote
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 True that Hollande and friends are obviously a liability. I really don't agree with your statement about the IOC. In retrospect, Beijing, London, Rio, Tokyo is a perfectly sound line-up of hosts. France on their side needs to learn to make timely bids. Think of Paris 2008 or Annecy 2018 for instance. If France had not bid for 2018 and made a strong bid for 2022 they would probably be the favorite together with Oslo. To be fair, France could of picked a better candidate than Annecy for 2018 with all due respect, reminded me of when Germany chose Leipzig for 2012. Germany should of picked Berlin, Munich or even Hamburg would of been better Candidates. For Annecy, France could of picked Grenoble. Quote
mr.bernham Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 To be fair, France could of picked a better candidate than Annecy for 2018 with all due respect, reminded me of when Germany chose Leipzig for 2012. Germany should of picked Berlin, Munich or even Hamburg would of been better Candidates. For Annecy, France could of picked Grenoble. Or Albertville Quote
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 Or Albertville They are capable, but it's too near. Albertville Hosted in 1992, whereas Grenoble hosted in 1968. Chamonix could Bid, and have the back up of Hosting the 1st ever Winter Olympics, in 1924, like Athens did with 2004, birthplace of the Olympics. But yes, Albertville are capable of Hosting, but too near, only 22 years ago. Anyway, 2024 will be a tight race between Rome and Paris IMO. Quote
hektor Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) Annecy bid was very much like the Albertville Games. Albertville (pop. 18,480) is an even smaller city than Annecy (pop. 52,890). For France, I think now for the WOG you need larger host cities such as Grenoble, Nice or even Lyon. A binational bid of Geneva as host city (and for ice sports) together with Megève/Chamonix for snow (70 minutes by car with the A40 motorway) could also work. Edited March 5, 2014 by hektor Quote
hektor Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) Une délégation française à Londres pour s'inspirer de l'après-JO A report on the visit of Paris 2024 in London, as seen by the journalists of Le Monde... Valérie Fourneyron and members of the delegation concluded their day with a meeting with Lord Sebastian Coe, head of the organizing committee of the London Games. The former runner repeated the advice he distills those who come to listen: a good candidate go through a clear message, one voice to express and endurance to hold for seven years, the time usually observed between the announcement of the candidate City and the start of the Games. Edited March 5, 2014 by hektor Quote
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