Paris 2024

[AustralianFan]

1 minute ago, AustralianFan said:

Boxing is officially out of Paris 2024.   

 

Correction:  The International Boxing Association (IBA) is out of Paris 2024.

Boxing as a sport remains in the Paris 2024 programme, but it won’t be the IBA organising the competition.  A humiliating and deserved punishment for the IBA who brought this upon themselves.

[AustralianFan]

From the IOC:

 

[SportLightning]

That would mean Boxing would wait until the 2028 edition in Los, Angeles, California, USA.

[Sir Rols]

19 minutes ago, SportLightning said:

That would mean Boxing would wait until the 2028 edition in Los, Angeles, California, USA.

We shall see

[AustralianFan]

“The Cultural Olympiad will feature various artistic disciplines such as architecture, digital arts, circus, cinema and audio-visual, dance, fashion and luxury goods, theatre, and music.”
 

 

[baron-pierreIV]

/\  That will be Paris 2024's strong point.  And don't forget a major highlight will be the re-opening of Notre Dame with a new roof.  

[AustralianFan]

Interesting move by NBC in the build-up to Paris 2024 …

 

[Quaker2001]

3 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

Interesting move by NBC in the build-up to Paris 2024 …

 

They shut down NBCSN between Tokyo and Beijing. This is small potatoes compared to that

The linear cable channel is what they're closing shop on. All of that video content will more than likely be shifted to a streaming platform, almost certainly Peacock 

[AustralianFan]

Paris 1924, by Nicholas Whitlam

 

[AustralianFan]

Competition dates are set.

 

[baron-pierreIV]

Now Even French Handball Dislikes Lille and Wants Back in Paris 

FFHB President Bana wants Paris 2024 handball tournament moved to capital (insidethegames.biz) 

And I don't blame them at all.  A city like Paris shouldn't bid if they don't have the necessary, quality venues for all the sports within the city's metropolitan area.  Paris is just getting too CHEAP to build even one or 2 extra arenas so that everyone is in the capital.  They've tried to skimp too much on adding new venues. 

I mean, after 100 years and a few tries, what's throwing another $180 million at another 16,000-17,000 seat quality venue?  The Bercy or whatever that arena's now called is like 40 years old and the COJO is trying all sorts of cheap substitutes to accommodate all the sports in Paris.  Skip stupid foolhardy things like an outdoor Opening Ceremony (hello, Shinzo Abe's killing???  Charlie Hebdo???) or Surfing halfway around the world and just build even a good, temporary arena per the original plan! 
Paris 2024, Les Jeux Stupides et Bon Marche Apres 100 Ans.  
 

Edited July 12, 2022 by baron-pierreIV

[AustralianFan]

“Located just west of Paris on the Île de Lorsirs on the River Marne, Lac de Vaires-sur-Marne will play host to both Olympic and Paralympic regattas in 2024 as well as the canoe and kayak events.”

 

 

[Sir Rols]

For anyone interested:

Paris 2024 Olympics to seek English-speaking volunteers

[stryker]

On 7/11/2022 at 8:25 AM, baron-pierreIV said:

Now Even French Handball Dislikes Lille and Wants Back in Paris 

FFHB President Bana wants Paris 2024 handball tournament moved to capital (insidethegames.biz) 

And I don't blame them at all.  A city like Paris shouldn't bid if they don't have the necessary, quality venues for all the sports within the city's metropolitan area.  Paris is just getting too CHEAP to build even one or 2 extra arenas so that everyone is in the capital.  They've tried to skimp too much on adding new venues. 

I mean, after 100 years and a few tries, what's throwing another $180 million at another 16,000-17,000 seat quality venue?  The Bercy or whatever that arena's now called is like 40 years old and the COJO is trying all sorts of cheap substitutes to accommodate all the sports in Paris.  Skip stupid foolhardy things like an outdoor Opening Ceremony (hello, Shinzo Abe's killing???  Charlie Hebdo???) or Surfing halfway around the world and just build even a good, temporary arena per the original plan! 
Paris 2024, Les Jeux Stupides et Bon Marche Apres 100 Ans.  
 

I disagree. Time for the Paris organizers to tell both FIBA and the IHF that if they don`t like the facilities, stay home. Paris has no need for another 17,000-18,000 seat arena and given inflation and supply chain issues there`s no chance it could be built for just 180 million (the new Clippers arena is maxing out at 2$ billion). Even if it was in the budget, what legacy would it serve? Bercy, while 40 years old, was renovated just ten years ago and serves the city fine as a multipurpose venue. If the arena was set to be demolished after the Olympics (as the Omni in Atlanta was following the 1996 Olympics) then I think there`s a much better argument for constructing a new state-of-the-art arena. Even with the constructing of new sportig venues over the years, Paris has wisely either reduced costs of proposed facilities (the initial renovation of Parc des Princes was supposed to have a retractable roof while the La Defense Arena did as well, but this was converted to a fixed roof to save costs) while others like the FFR`s planned Stade de Rugby in Evry was scrapped altogether. Had the stadium in Evry been built it could`ve served as another venue for indoor sports. Forget temporary arenas either. They just aren`t cost effective. London got the closest with its basketball arena but it was never cost effective to dismantle it and rebuild it. SOGs in Rio (Future Arena) and Tokyo (Gymnastics Arena) also built arenas that were supposed to be temporary but continue to remain as white elephants. Paris did the same thing by scrapping the temporary aquatics center and moving swimming to La Defense Arena (ironically this helped contribute to the current issues the organizers are having with handball and basketball). 

Paris has also scrapped building the shooting range in La Corneuve and is moving the shooting competitions out to the national shooting centre in Chateauroux, 170 miles south of Paris.

I do agree though about the ridiculous opening ceremony concept, and the security costs will push the budget through the roof. 

[fusilli]

That's the country of the Legion etrangere afterall. They may know how to keep a place safe. 

[yoshi]

This is France, the land of TGV! Even Marseille is only I think 3 hours away, and nobody's suggesting anywhere near that far away. Region and nationwide Olympics are going to happen eventually, at least in Europe, so maybe France is the one to pioneer the concept. (That being said, I find it strange that they don't want a permanent Olympic standard aquatic centre in Paris, so they could've still used La Defence)

[baron-pierreIV]

31 minutes ago, yoshi said:

This is France, the land of TGV! Even Marseille is only I think 3 hours away, and nobody's suggesting anywhere near that far away. Region and nationwide Olympics are going to happen eventually, at least in Europe, so maybe France is the one to pioneer the concept. (That being said, I find it strange that they don't want a permanent Olympic standard aquatic centre in Paris, so they could've still used La Defence)

With the heat wave roiling Europe now, they'll probably want a permanent aquatic venue.  

[Chris_Mex]

21 minutes ago, yoshi said:

This is France, the land of TGV! Even Marseille is only I think 3 hours away, and nobody's suggesting anywhere near that far away. Region and nationwide Olympics are going to happen eventually, at least in Europe, so maybe France is the one to pioneer the concept. (That being said, I find it strange that they don't want a permanent Olympic standard aquatic centre in Paris, so they could've still used La Defence)

The new aquatics center is already advanced in its construction so guess its just too late to change plans, but again criticise me, it'd have been better for them to build a decent sized aquatics center with the capacity to be downsized after the games, just as london. France is pretty competitive in aquatics, is not like it'd have been a waste of money

[yoshi]

Yeah it's not like that concept hasn't been proven to work. Paris is at least the equal of London so I'd certainly have thought there'd be the demand for such a facility, and the money they've saved from not needing a stadium would pay for it several times over. The fact it's in Paris would keep it supplied with major championships too, just like London. And then the La Defence arena is free for anything. 

[Chris_Mex]

10 minutes ago, yoshi said:

Yeah it's not like that concept hasn't been proven to work. Paris is at least the equal of London so I'd certainly have thought there'd be the demand for such a facility, and the money they've saved from not needing a stadium would pay for it several times over. The fact it's in Paris would keep it supplied with major championships too, just like London. And then the La Defence arena is free for anything. 

I also remember back in 2017 the plan was to make a fully equiped swimming center, I dont know if someone knows why they decided to get rid of that idea?

[TorchbearerSydney]

Aquatic Centres in major cities make a good investment, add a fun park element and they always seem to be successful....

[Chris_Mex]

6 minutes ago, TorchbearerSydney said:

Aquatic Centres in major cities make a good investment, add a fun park element and they always seem to be successful....

Only in cities which can give them  the proper use after the games (paris is one of them), lets not forget this beauty of swimming center

[ulu]

It's the enormous building for all that seating that is a waste. Aquatic centres simply don't need that much seating and it's hugely wasteful to build an Olympic size aquatic centre only to then downsize it.

They have the right idea to use an existing arena with a temporary pool and then if Paris needs an aquatic centre they can build one that fits their needs rather than a ridiculous Olympic scale one that no city needs.

[Chris_Mex]

9 minutes ago, ulu said:

It's the enormous building for all that seating that is a waste. Aquatic centres simply don't need that much seating and it's hugely wasteful to build an Olympic size aquatic centre only to then downsize it.

They have the right idea to use an existing arena with a temporary pool and then if Paris needs an aquatic centre they can build one that fits their needs rather than a ridiculous Olympic scale one that no city needs.

Budapest built an olympic sized aquatics venues and already hosted 2 FINA world championships, its not wasteful if theres a plan for using it, atlanta aquatics center now serves as the university main swimming center, and Beijing 2008 swimming center recently hosted curling at the winter olympics, there are far more problematic venues than swimming centers in the olympic games (ehmm....whitewater venues....sliding centers), you can find something to do with a pool, even use it as a public training center like london or tokyo.

Now back in paris they do have the right to use an existing arena, the thing we are debating here is that if they only had 1 aquatics center, they would have no problem in relocating basketball to arena 92, but for some reason they decided to use 2 venues for aquatics which DO is an organizational problem considering basketball (even in prelims) involves lots of competitors, officials and fans.

[TorchbearerSydney]

The Rio Pool is a temporary, the building is demountable ... not a good example.