Paris 2024

[yoshi]

Has there been much celebration in Paris, or even any statements from any official figures about it? Only it seems that LA have been making all the noise even though they are going later...are Paris waiting for official certainty in September?

[Roger87]

4 hours ago, yoshi said:

Has there been much celebration in Paris, or even any statements from any official figures about it? Only it seems that LA have been making all the noise even though they are going later...are Paris waiting for official certainty in September?

There was a certain response on twitter, but I guess tey are waiting for September, especially when Macron's new reforms will start to be votes. The celebration can beas his wild card,

[Roger87]

 

 

[gotosy]

Paris mulling inclusion of eSports in 2024 Olympic program

 

With about a month to go before the International Olympic Committee is expected to award the 2024 Games to Paris, Olympic bid committee officials in the French capital are wasting no time planning the events schedule. On Tuesday, the co-president of the committee, Tony Estanguet, told the Associated Press he is mulling the addition of video gaming to the agenda.

Known as eSports, competitive video gaming long ago exited your parents’ basement and entered the mainstream. For proof, one need only turn on ESPN. In recent years, the sports network has begun to air major video game tournaments, which often offer millions of dollars in prizes. With an audience of eSports fans expected to reach 145 million people this year, per data gathered by Fortune, it’s no wonder Olympic officials might seize a share of these viewers, as well.

“We have to look at [eSports] because we can’t say, ‘It’s not us. It’s not about Olympics,’ ” Estanguet told the AP. “The youth, yes they are interested in eSport and this kind of thing. Let’s look at it. Let’s meet them. Let’s try if we can find some bridges.”

Estanguet added: “I don’t want to say ‘no’ from the beginning. I think it’s interesting to interact with the IOC, with them, the eSports family, to better understand what the process is and why it is such a success.”

Estanguet did not offer further details about which games might compose medal events, but there is already a precedent being set for adding eSports to major sporting competitions.

The Asian Games will debut eSports as an exhibition event next year before adding it to its official program in 2022. The Olympic Council of Asia announced the decision in April, noting that first the eSports events would appear at the Asian Indoor and Martial Arts Games, which are set to take place next month. Organizers plan on offering four events featuring four games: Dota 2, StarCraft II, Hearthstone and a sports game, still to be decided, but will be either from the FIFA or NBA series.

Dota 2 has emerged in recent years as one of the most lucrative games to play. This year’s largest Dota 2 competition, the International 2017  underway in Seattle, is offering nearly $25 million in prize money, including an $11 million prize for the winning team of five.

Obviously, any program in the Olympics would not offer that level of prize money, but medals could be just as valuable in terms of prestige.

To add any new sport, however, French officials would have to get the support of the IOC, which could prove a hurdle. In April, IOC President Thomas Bach did not sound convinced that eSports would fit in at the Olympics.

“We are not yet 100 percent clear whether eSports is really sport, with regard to physical activity and what it needs to be considered sport,” Bach said (via Inside the Games). “We do not see an organization or a structure that will give us confidence, or guarantee, that in this area the Olympic rules and values of sport are respected and in place, and that the implementation of these rules are monitored and secured.”

To become an Olympic event, sports must demonstrate a certain level of international organization, including having a world governing body. (For example, swimming and diving events are overseen by the FINA, international basketball by FIBA, soccer by FIFA, etc.)

AP

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/08/08/paris-mulling-inclusion-of-esports-in-2024-olympic-program/?utm_term=.566d32618c7c

 

[zigzag]

38 minutes ago, gotosy said:

Paris mulling inclusion of eSports in 2024 Olympic program

 

With about a month to go before the International Olympic Committee is expected to award the 2024 Games to Paris, Olympic bid committee officials in the French capital are wasting no time planning the events schedule. On Tuesday, the co-president of the committee, Tony Estanguet, told the Associated Press he is mulling the addition of video gaming to the agenda.

Known as eSports, competitive video gaming long ago exited your parents’ basement and entered the mainstream. For proof, one need only turn on ESPN. In recent years, the sports network has begun to air major video game tournaments, which often offer millions of dollars in prizes. With an audience of eSports fans expected to reach 145 million people this year, per data gathered by Fortune, it’s no wonder Olympic officials might seize a share of these viewers, as well.

“We have to look at [eSports] because we can’t say, ‘It’s not us. It’s not about Olympics,’ ” Estanguet told the AP. “The youth, yes they are interested in eSport and this kind of thing. Let’s look at it. Let’s meet them. Let’s try if we can find some bridges.”

Estanguet added: “I don’t want to say ‘no’ from the beginning. I think it’s interesting to interact with the IOC, with them, the eSports family, to better understand what the process is and why it is such a success.”

Estanguet did not offer further details about which games might compose medal events, but there is already a precedent being set for adding eSports to major sporting competitions.

The Asian Games will debut eSports as an exhibition event next year before adding it to its official program in 2022. The Olympic Council of Asia announced the decision in April, noting that first the eSports events would appear at the Asian Indoor and Martial Arts Games, which are set to take place next month. Organizers plan on offering four events featuring four games: Dota 2, StarCraft II, Hearthstone and a sports game, still to be decided, but will be either from the FIFA or NBA series.

Dota 2 has emerged in recent years as one of the most lucrative games to play. This year’s largest Dota 2 competition, the International 2017  underway in Seattle, is offering nearly $25 million in prize money, including an $11 million prize for the winning team of five.

Obviously, any program in the Olympics would not offer that level of prize money, but medals could be just as valuable in terms of prestige.

To add any new sport, however, French officials would have to get the support of the IOC, which could prove a hurdle. In April, IOC President Thomas Bach did not sound convinced that eSports would fit in at the Olympics.

“We are not yet 100 percent clear whether eSports is really sport, with regard to physical activity and what it needs to be considered sport,” Bach said (via Inside the Games). “We do not see an organization or a structure that will give us confidence, or guarantee, that in this area the Olympic rules and values of sport are respected and in place, and that the implementation of these rules are monitored and secured.”

To become an Olympic event, sports must demonstrate a certain level of international organization, including having a world governing body. (For example, swimming and diving events are overseen by the FINA, international basketball by FIBA, soccer by FIFA, etc.)

AP

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/08/08/paris-mulling-inclusion-of-esports-in-2024-olympic-program/?utm_term=.566d32618c7c

 

No please.. Just no... I'm a youth myself but when it comes to esports I think it would be better for both the esports community and the olympic movement to stay separated..

[baron-pierreIV]

If these are the ideas of Paris 2024 -- cloning "medals," eGames, etc., maybe the IOC was right in NOT giving the Games back to Paris.  Really stupid ideas.  

[TheOtherRob]

"I don’t want to say ‘no’ from the beginning" is hardly an indication Paris wants them in the Games is it?

[mr.bernham]

Stop drying to be edgy Paris. You're not edgy, you're classic. 

[paul]

....we don't need no stinking eSports....there is already a youth engagement strategy in place!

 

[FYI]

"E-games" certainly are the total opposite of engaging in sport, which is what the Olympics are about TBW. 'Sitting' behind a video game console is not what constitutes an athlete anyway.

[hektor]

They should not start acting crazy once they have gotten the Games.

They present a medal concept, when they are still only candidates, which is unprecedented. And of course without any blessing from the IOC.

They hint at so called sports which are not even recognized by the IOC

Edited August 12, 2017 by hektor

[mr.bernham]

10 hours ago, hektor said:

They should not start acting crazy once they have gotten the Games.

They present a medal concept, when they are still only candidates, which is unprecedented. And of course without any blessing from the IOC.

They hint at so called sports which are not even recognized by the IOC

Seems like Paris has the same Jupiter disease that infected the new French President. 

[jtrevino]

Regardless of the fact that esport is not a sport. Once you add, it because a controversial headache to cut. And really, the Olympics needs to slim down rather than add. All these additions are one of the reasons hosting has such a bad reputation. Just requires more and more hosting duties (ie. money) from cities.

Although, I think it would be great to have an Esport Olympics by itself, or held unoffically in Paris around the same time. I think that may be what Estanguet has in mind, despite how it’s being reported. (because this can’t be serious). 

 

The medal splitting of the medals, although an interesting concept creates more problems than they’re worth. Because it’s not just 3 other people, it’s a huge team. So some people get one and others are left out? Less hurt feeling to just keep it for yourself. And then if you don’t want to share, you’re an ass. 

[paul]

Paris must add the e-sports to their program.......it would be a shame it they were left out after being led on by the Paris committee.

The athletes are ready!

[paul]

Jerry Lewis, Mercurial Comedian and Filmmaker, Dies at 91

[hektor]

I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty-headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!

[yoshi]

Any celebrations in Paris yesterday now it's official? Or is it LA making all the noise again? You'd think there'd be an event of some kind to mark the end of their quest for the games. 

[brennus86]

I know a free concert is planned tomorrow on the Paris city hall plaza

Yestarday was the unveiling of the Olympic rings on the esplanade of Trocadero in front of the Eiffel tower , but it's was short ceremony because of an heavy rain. The Olympic rings will stay until sunday, before to change for a new place

 

 

 

[brennus86]

[Mainad]

All the tension and excitement of a budding bid process and, in the end, it was just a formality. Always expected and looked forward to a Paris Centenary Games and now they are here without the inconvenience of a vote. Félicitations Paris 2024!!!

 

 

[hektor]

Nice article (in French, sorry) which explains that the transportation plan promised for the Games (also called Grand Paris Express) is unaffordable and that the French Government discussed internally the issue on August 2... Cost is 35 billion euros and not 22 billions as originally planned. And of course the construction has not even started.

 

Les JO c’est gagné, mais le Grand Paris Express ça coince très fort

 

Edited September 16, 2017 by hektor

[stryker]

22 billion to 35 billion? How was the accounting department that far off?! If it doesn't get built, how would this affect the logistics of the Olympics? I'm not familiar with the project other than it's a planned expansion of the Paris Metro.

[yoshi]

Woah, there's out &...out. Is it a critical project for the Games or could you make it work with the existing system?

[JMarkSnow2012]

On 16/09/2017 at 3:10 PM, hektor said:

Nice article (in French, sorry) which explains that the transportation plan promised for the Games (also called Grand Paris Express) is unaffordable and that the French Government discussed internally the issue on August 2... Cost is 35 billion euros and not 22 billions as originally planned. And of course the construction has not even started.

 

Les JO c’est gagné, mais le Grand Paris Express ça coince très fort

 

How interesting that the outcome of a meeting on 2 August did not get reported until the IOC had announced its decision!

[hektor]

Grand Paris Express: Pécresse met en garde contre des «dépassements de budget»

Head of Ile de France region Pecresse « discovers » the issue and provides a dire warning.