JMarkSnow2012 Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 Paris marathon tomorrow: I wonder if it would be the same route for the olympic marathon Not if they decide they want it to end with a lap of the main stadium, but even if they don't, the infrastructure demands of an Olympic marathon are very different from a "people's marathon" and they might well choose a route which ticks as many tourist-site boxes as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted April 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Paris marathon tomorrow: I wonder if it would be the same route for the olympic marathon Je l'espère, il n'y a pas d'incidents fâcheux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neige Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Not if they decide they want it to end with a lap of the main stadium, but even if they don't, the infrastructure demands of an Olympic marathon are very different from a "people's marathon" and they might well choose a route which ticks as many tourist-site boxes as possible. You're right, an olympic marathon should end at the stadium, which is on the north of paris. So the olympic route would be different from this route. Je l'espère, il n'y a pas d'incidents fâcheux. Ouf! Pas d'incidents facheux And even a new record for the number of starters: 43317 http://www.schneiderelectricparismarathon.com/us/the-race/news#news-91-all-champions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Neither London not Rio had the traditional marathon ending in the stadium. Both also has multiple loops, which is good for TV, local viewers and security. I would expect Paris to do the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neige Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 Neither London not Rio had the traditional marathon ending in the stadium. Both also has multiple loops, which is good for TV, local viewers and security. I would expect Paris to do the same. OK. So, wait and see.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neige Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 http://gamesbids.com/eng/featured/paris-2024-bid-co-chair-says-french-youth-believe-sport-can-help-preserve-nation-of-freedom/ There are about 500 proposals up to know. Sign in and vote for this one! http://concertation.paris2024.org/projects/celebrer-les-jeux/consultation/contribuer/opinions/renforcer-la-pratique-du-sport-partout-pour-tous-et-pour-la-sante-de-chacun/des-pistes-cyclables-olympiques "cycling routes linking all olympic venues" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neige Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 correction!!! up to know http://gamesbids.com/eng/featured/paris-2024-bid-co-chair-says-french-youth-believe-sport-can-help-preserve-nation-of-freedom/ There are about 500 proposals up to now. Sign in and vote for this one! http://concertation.paris2024.org/projects/celebrer-les-jeux/consultation/contribuer/opinions/renforcer-la-pratique-du-sport-partout-pour-tous-et-pour-la-sante-de-chacun/des-pistes-cyclables-olympiques "cycling routes linking all olympic venues" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neige Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 And even a new record for the number of starters: 43317 http://www.schneiderelectricparismarathon.com/us/the-race/news#news-91-all-champions And also a new record for the number of finishers at the Paris Marathon: 41708 Paris is now the second largest marathon. 2 NOV 2014 New York 50,403 3 APR 2016 Paris 41,708 12 OCT 2014 Chicago 40,801 26 APR 2015 London 37,562 27 SEP 2015 Berlin 36,820 try to become the first one in 2017? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) JO 2024 : 61% des Français favorables à l'organisation des Jeux Olympiques à Paris Edited April 10, 2016 by hektor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JO2024 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Thanks Hektor. This was published one year ago. I wonder what are the numbers today, now that the French and the Parisians know a lot more about the bid plan (venues, etc.) Oh my bad, read that wrong! Nevermind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 This poll was made April 7 and 8 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neige Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 So it's quite the same result as 1 year ago...not so good...but not so bad for a european country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neige Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 and far from the poles for the 2012 bid: Un sondage de l'opinion publique commandé par le CIO révèle les niveaux de soutien suivants pour accueillir les Jeux Olympiques de 2012 : 85 % à Paris et 79 % dans toute la France http://www.olympic.org/Documents/Host_city_elections/2012JO-Rapport_de_la_commission_d_evaluation.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neige Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 and far from the poles for the 2012 bid: Un sondage de l'opinion publique commandé par le CIO révèle les niveaux de soutien suivants pour accueillir les Jeux Olympiques de 2012 : 85 % à Paris et 79 % dans toute la France http://www.olympic.org/Documents/Host_city_elections/2012JO-Rapport_de_la_commission_d_evaluation.pdf A public opinion poll commissioned by the IOC shows the following levels of support to host the 2012 Olympic Games: 85% support in Paris and 79% support throughout France. http://www.olympic.org/Documents/Host_city_elections/2012_OG-Report_of_the_Evaluation_Commission.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 But that was before Beijing & Sochi - in the present climate, to have a majority at this stage is a strong position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JO2024 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I agree with Yoshi. Back in 2005 it was completely different. We didn't know yet the effects of the 2004 Games on Greece's economy, Beijing and Sotchi hadn't happened yet. The numbers for Paris are quite alright I would say, enough for the IOC at least. And in the end, I'm not sure this has much of an influence on the IOC voters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamBlakeUSA Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Paris Bid For 2012 Games, But Lost To London By 4 Votes. I Hope Paris Wins This Time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarkSnow2012 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 A public opinion poll commissioned by the IOC shows the following levels of support to host the 2012 Olympic Games: 85% support in Paris and 79% support throughout France. http://www.olympic.org/Documents/Host_city_elections/2012_OG-Report_of_the_Evaluation_Commission.pdf I think one thing influencing current opinion in France is a recognition that the 2012 Games which were so nearly theirs, did, despite cost overruns, benefit London and increased its "cool factor". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamBlakeUSA Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 If Paris Is Awarded For 2024 That Will Be Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neige Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 I think one thing influencing current opinion in France is a recognition that the 2012 Games which were so nearly theirs, did, despite cost overruns, benefit London and increased its "cool factor". I think one thing influencing current opinion in France is a recognition that the 2012 Games which were so nearly theirs, did, despite cost overruns, benefit London and increased its "cool factor". In that case, the support to Paris bid should have increased since 2005. On the contrary, it has decreased from 80% to 60%! Many factors may explain this decrease. I can think of: the cost of the Games (particularly because of Athene 2004 case as it has already been said). This reason is not really legitimate as the games would certainly be cheaper in 2024 than in 2012.... the terrorist attacks a mistrust against FIFA and IOC due to the corrupton cases a feeling of unfairness after the 2012 bid It's interresting to notice that the evolution is completely different in America. 59% for New York in 2005 and a very high support in Los Angeles now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 It's interresting to notice that the evolution is completely different in America. 59% for New York in 2005 and a very high support in Los Angeles now. That's not an "evolution" though is it. It's just different cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neige Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 That's not an "evolution" though is it. It's just different cities. Yes, not the same city...but the difference is so big that I think it can be compared: -26% (85% in 2005 to 59% in 2016) for Paris opinion and -18% (79% to 61%) in France. +26% (59% in New York 2005 to 85% in Los Angeles) and 54% in USA 2005 to ???? (it would be interrested to have the figures for USA) It seems the misstrust is bigger in Europe than in America (see all lost referendums) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarkSnow2012 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Yes, not the same city...but the difference is so big that I think it can be compared: -26% (85% in 2005 to 59% in 2016) for Paris opinion and -18% (79% to 61%) in France. +26% (59% in New York 2005 to 85% in Los Angeles) and 54% in USA 2005 to ???? (it would be interrested to have the figures for USA) It seems the misstrust is bigger in Europe than in America (see all lost referendums) That's sort-of my point. When it came to the crunch, citizens of European cities in recent years quite uniformly said No to the Olympics. The fact that London still seems to be one of the top two global cities suggests that fortune favours the bold, and that the popular pessimism is slightly mistaken. Given that Hollywood works on a similar basis, it's not surprising that the population of LA "gets it" more than some other potential host cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) Yes, not the same city...but the difference is so big that I think it can be compared: -26% (85% in 2005 to 59% in 2016) for Paris opinion and -18% (79% to 61%) in France. +26% (59% in New York 2005 to 85% in Los Angeles) and 54% in USA 2005 to ???? (it would be interrested to have the figures for USA) It seems the misstrust is bigger in Europe than in America (see all lost referendums) Or....LA is an exception to the general rule which also includes a lot of the USA. Don't forget how they got to be the US' bid in the first place. Boston never looked likely to win that referendum did it? Edited April 11, 2016 by Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamBlakeUSA Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 I Don't Know About That But We'll Let Them Know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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