neige Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 La force d'un rêve (the strength of a dream) is the slogan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted February 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Where are the Ceremony plans???????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 The bid book is online http://paris2024.org/medias/presse/paris_2024_candidature_file_part_1.pdf There's something very satisfying about seeing the London 2012 pictograms in Paris' (latest) bid book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neige Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Compared to previous map, the new "grand Paris" zone has lost 2 pavillons (moved to Paris Expo Halls) and the hockey venue (moved to Stade Yves du Manoir) For the hockey venue, the goal is to have a reference to the 1924 games (Stade Yves du manoir was the main stadium of the 1924 games) For the 2 temporary pavillons (moved to Paris Expo Halls), I think the goal is to stick to the 2020 agenda. But on the other side, it gives a smaller "grand Paris" zone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.bernham Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 There's something very satisfying about seeing the London 2012 pictograms in Paris' (latest) bid book. I'm sure there is. Little taste of sweet victory lingering from that hot July day of ten years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athan Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I think Paris is the clear favourite to win this. If there's a negative aspect about their Games plan, it is the fact that with those temporary venues for badminton, volleyball and shooting, the Olympic Stadium and the Aquatics Centre would be left as stand-alone venues when the Games are over. The "epicentre" of the Games will not remain there for it to be visited as such like London's Olympic Park which still holds many of the venues. But, on the other hand, the Paris Centre Zone is just wonderful. Beach volleyball and archery have amazing settings that would look fantastic on TV, not to mention triathlon and open water swimming near the Eiffel Tower, cycling on the Champs-Élysées and also equestrian in Versailles. And it's a quite compact bid, which is always welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neige Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 There's something very satisfying about seeing the London 2012 pictograms in Paris' (latest) bid book. EEC sharing...UK is still in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neige Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I think Paris is the clear favourite to win this. If there's a negative aspect about their Games plan, it is the fact that with those temporary venues for badminton, volleyball and shooting, the Olympic Stadium and the Aquatics Centre would be left as stand-alone venues when the Games are over. The "epicentre" of the Games will not remain there for it to be visited as such like London's Olympic Park which still holds many of the venues. But, on the other hand, the Paris Centre Zone is just wonderful. Beach volleyball and archery have amazing settings that would look fantastic on TV, not to mention triathlon and open water swimming near the Eiffel Tower, cycling on the Champs-Élysées and also equestrian in Versailles. And it's a quite compact bid, which is always welcome. I agree. I like the "Paris centre" zone with its path along the Seine joining many iconic venues. But on the other side I'm a bit desappointed by the "Grand Paris" zone. The legacy of the games will "only" be the Olympic village and the acquatic center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningrings Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 I love Paris' font! I hope something like that eventuates in a real logo - Very slick, very Sydney 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JO2024 Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 I quite love the fact that they're integrating the 1924 Olympic Stadium in the bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted February 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 I quite love the fact that they're integrating the 1924 Olympic Stadium in the bid. The Colombes? How?? Guess we'll be hearing the CHARIOTS OF FIRE theme too, soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JO2024 Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 The Colombes? How?? Guess we'll be hearing the CHARIOTS OF FIRE theme too, soon. Yes, it's going to be renovated and used for field hockey. It would be freaking amazing to have the Games back in the same stadium after 100 years (a but like Athens). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woohooitsme83 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Paris should have gymnastics in a renovated catacombs. Now that would be both historic and amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neige Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Paris should have gymnastics in a renovated catacombs. Now that would be both historic and amazing. Or weightlifting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neige Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Looking at the different bids, my feeling is that Paris may have the advantage on the following points: concept: on one hand, the "Paris Centre" zone with its fan "river trail" linking many iconic venues. it will make a really nice place for the games celebration. on the other hand, the "Grand Paris" zone that should act as a cataclyst (even though I think the legacy could be larger with more venues in that zone) to the Grand Paris Project: major evoluton of the city which is planed over 15 years with 70,000 new homes per year, over 200 kilometres of metro network.... http://www.grand-paris.jll.fr/en/grand-paris-project/overview/id/40 environment: - More than 2000 kms of subway, tramway, suburban network (including the new Grand Paris 200 kms network) - High Speed Train connected to the main french cities (including all of the football venues) and many european cities in England, Belgium, Netherlands, Switzerland, Germany, Italy, Spain. - COP21 summit on climate change held at the proposed Paris 2024 venue of Paris Le Bourget (IBC / MPC). - France has a very low level of CO2 emissions (http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EN.ATM.CO2E.PP.GD) and Paris has a very active policy to further reduce these emissions and improve the air quality: Velib’: In 2015, nearly 22 million trips were made on Velib’, the Parisian bike sharing system. In place since 2007, the use of Velib’ is booming, with 1,800 stations in Paris and a major contributor to sustainable mobility. Autolib’: Launched in 2011, Autolib’ is the first public sharing system with electric vehicles to be implemented in a European metropolis. With more than 3,000 100% electric Bluecars, Autolib’ is an impactful step toward sustainability and contributing to France’s commitment to reducing carbon emissions by 20% by 2020. - Water quality improvement of the River Seine (competition venue for Triathlon and Aquatics - Marathon swimming) compactness: Within the 10 km radius of the Village, two thematic and operational zones, the Paris Centre Zone and the Grand Paris Zone, sensibly encompass a large number of competition and non-competition venues. (Budapest plan is also very compact) Quality of venues: A high standart for the 3 major sports: - Stade de France is part of the diamond league. It's the biggest stadium for athletics (80000 seats) and the newest compared to Roma and Los Angeles. - Arena 92 for Gymnastics (Half of the stadium will be used for gymnastics: 17500 seats). It is still under construction and is described here as the biggest, most modern and most modular arena in Europe. http://www.arena92.com/a-connected-space/a-unique-big-screen-effect - The aquatic center (15000 seats) will be delivered in 2023 and should be perfect for aquatics. Some other venues are also quite new: Bercy arena newly renovated (15000 seats) + Bercy arena 2 (8000 seats) to be delivered in 2021, Water Sports Center to be delivered in 2018, track cycling center delivered in 2014, football stadiums renovated (or built) for Euro 2016, Roland Garros renovated for 2018, rugby stadium delivered in 2013. Other venues are temporary venues (most of them in iconic locations) (Los Angeles has this famous NFL stadium...what are they going to do with it? if it hosts Gymnastics and basketball, it will clearly be better than Paris venues for these 2 sports) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted February 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 I'd pay to see Fencing at the Grand Palais and Equestrian at Versailles. God, I hope Berthillon will be a major sponsor!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Their plan reminds me a lot of London's plan for 2012. A prediction. Badminton probably gets relocated to Paris Expo where handball and table tennis are held much like London did when they did away with plans for the temporary arena in Greenwich. Paris ends up building just one temporary arena for volleyball just like London only had one for basketball. Temporary arenas might save some money but there really is no viable plans for them once the Olympics are over. Both the London and Sochi Olympics already proved that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neige Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Paris ends up building just one temporary arena for volleyball just like London only had one for basketball. has London sold its temporary arena? If not, Paris may buy it if London makes a good price for having stolen the 2012 Games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 To my knowledge, the parts of the basketball arena were put up for sale but there were no buyers. Someone correct me on this, but I believe the parts were just recycled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) Their plan reminds me a lot of London's plan for 2012. A prediction. Badminton probably gets relocated to Paris Expo where handball and table tennis are held much like London did when they did away with plans for the temporary arena in Greenwich. Paris ends up building just one temporary arena for volleyball just like London only had one for basketball. In terms of "roofed" temporary venues (as opposed to seating around an area of play - of which there were several venues of this type), the water polo arena was also temporary, as were the shooting arenas. In terms of what happened to the materials afterwards, no idea. I know many seats were given to sports clubs, but in terms of the shells your guess is as as good as any. Temporary arenas might save some money but there really is no viable plans for them once the Olympics are over. Both the London and Sochi Olympics already proved that. But they shouldn't be completely ruled out either. It makes sense to put sports in existing venues if the venues are suitable. Temporary venues are a "least worst" option. Build if you have a legacy plan, put sports in existing venues if you can, but if neither of these are available, going temporary is far better than leaving white elephants. That should be the basic premise for all hosts when working out what to do. Edited February 21, 2016 by Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neige Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Please, support my proposals for Paris 2024! http://concertation.paris2024.org/projects/celebrer-les-jeux/consultation/contribuer/opinions/renforcer-la-pratique-du-sport-partout-pour-tous-et-pour-la-sante-de-chacun/des-pistes-cyclables-olympiques http://concertation.paris2024.org/projects/optimiser-les-impacts-et-preparer-l-heritage-des-jeux/consultation/concertation-1/opinions/developper-les-territoires-qui-accueilleront-les-jeux-et-optimiser-les-investissements-publics/coulee-verte-de-la-liberte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woohooitsme83 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 I'm sorry, but what is this "concertation" thing? I'm just not getting it. Is it to submit suggestions or vision ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacre Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 They are proposals to create bicycle paths ("veloroutes") between the venues. Neige, what do you mean by "couvrir?" Do you want a platform or deck built over the A1 for bicycles? Something like this: http://www.psfk.com/2014/01/london-elevated-bike-lane.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejaycat Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) Beach Volleyball on the Champ de Mars, near the Eiffel Tower...Bon jour, Paris! nbcsports.com nbcsports.com Edited February 23, 2016 by ejaycat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsnotmypuppy Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Look - I am all about LA24 however those wily French know how to get the heart pumping. J'adore Yet I am unexcited about most of the rest of their plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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