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"IOC boss backs new Paris bid for Olympics"

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ioc-boss-backs-paris-bid-olympics-220336192--oly.html

Paris (AFP) - New International Olympic Committee (IOC) president Thomas Bach said Friday he would be very favourable towards a new bid by Paris to host the Olympic Games in either 2024 or 2028.

On the eve of his first meeting with French President Francois Hollande, the IOC chief told France 3 television: "The enthusiasm of the French people for sport is obvious ... it would be a very, very strong candidate."

"It's a sports competition, you can't wait until you're the only bidder. That's never going to happen," he added of France's reticence to bid again after failed attempts for the 2012 Summer and 2018 Winter Games.

Beaten by London for last year's Olympics, France have set their diplomatic-sporting wheels back into motion over the past few weeks.

Hollande met with three members of the French Olympic committee, Jean-Claude Killy, Guy Drut and Tony Estanguet earlier this month.

And on Monday a reception was organised by Hollande in the Elysee Palace attended by Sports Minster Valérie Fourneyron, member of the French National Olympic Committee Denis Masseglia and French Committee for International Sport(CFSI) Bernard Lapasset.

France last hosted the Summer Games in 1924, and 2024 would mark the centenary of the last Paris Games.

Concerning the current difficult economic situation in France with record unemployment, Bach insisted that the IOC did not want "bids that were costly".

"A bid can contribute to development, not only sports development but also social development in a country and in a city," the German said.

"You have to go for it, to be united, to fight for it."

But then again he equally stated a few d


But then again he equally stated a few days earlier:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/more-sports/ioc-president-thomas-bach-points-to-italy-and-us-bids-for-2024/story-fnii0hmo-1226767039494

Methinks he's looking for a rerun of the 2012 bid......

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Bla bla bla...

He just is keen to have as many bidders as possible, no matter who or what.

And that's his job! I don't know why some people on this forum have a problem with the head of the IOC encouraging cities to bid, nor why they have a problem with him saying to Rome, the US, and Paris that they'd all be strong candidates.

Everything he said is true. Paris would be a very, very strong candidate and if they want the Games they're going to have to bid.

But then again he equally stated a few days earlier:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/more-sports/ioc-president-thomas-bach-points-to-italy-and-us-bids-for-2024/story-fnii0hmo-1226767039494

Methinks he's looking for a rerun of the 2012 bid......

Methinks he is too, certinaly in terms of the calibre of cities in the final vote. The IOC would rather that than the 2020 situation obviously! There's no reason the outcome should end up the same way for Paris though.

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Maybe so, but if elected politicians aren't smart enough to see this and expect the IOC to vote for them just because they said their city would be a strong candidate, then I have no sympathy for them!

I don't think there's any deception going on, only nudging and friendly diplomatic encouragement.

It's interesting, from the point of view of this forum, that these conversations are happening at all. It suggests these countries are considering bidding.

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Maybe so, but if elected politicians aren't smart enough to see this and expect the IOC to vote for them just because they said their city would be a strong candidate, then I have no sympathy for them!

I don't think there's any deception going on, only nudging and friendly diplomatic encouragement.

It's interesting, from the point of view of this forum, that these conversations are happening at all. It suggests these countries are considering bidding.

Oh I don't disagree on these :-) But let's face it, politicians like to get such kind of comments and spin them in their favour, only to wonder later on when they lose why the IOC "lied" to them.

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He does it because it might be the thing that pushes a city from 'we could try, but there's no point, we won't win' to 'you know what, we've got a real chance, let's do it'. It can only help get bidders.

If I were Bach I wouldn't be building my hopes just yet.

"There's many a slip twixt cup and lip"

^_^

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I don't think Bach really cares whether Paris will bid or not. As mentioned before, he says such things anywhere in the world where politicians like to hear them, so that statement is no indication whether he really would like a Paris bid or not.

I'd disagree with that. I think it goes without saying that the IOC, and Bach in particular, would love to see Paris in a bid race. A "safe" bid from a country with a huge amount of international cachet - what's there not to care about? And it's also self-evident as Bach says, IF it bids, of course it would be a strong candidate. One of the strongest candidates you could wish for in a race. I agree with Rob - it is his job to encourage bidders - to do otherwise would be negligent.
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Come on...it's the job of the IOC president to encourage as many good bidders as possible. Every single one of his predecessors has done exactly the same. The more quality bidders there are, the more interest and attention the IOC garners for the Olympics. Bach wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't encourage cities to bid that have a realistic chance of hosting them.

Not so long ago, the French posters were busy downplaying any hopes for a 2024 Paris bid..Now, with the news of Francois Hollande's meetings and discussions with the French NOC and French IOC members, it seems to be looking a bit more hopeful! :)

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Hm, maybe I should clarify what I meant:

First of all, yes, the IOC, especially the President, should encourage as many viable bidders as possible, part of the job. However, the usual "Paris/Rome/Baku/Tulsa/Ilulissat would make a great host" statements made during visits of those places are just diplomatic nonsense that shouldn't be seen as in any way favouring that particular city. There is too much weight given to such statements.

Secondly, it was mentioned that "if I were Bach, I wouldn't be building my hopes just yet". Well, I really do believe that Bach as a person, not as IOC boss doesn't care whether Paris/Rome/Tulsa/Ilulissat will bid or not. He might have very personal faves given his various business interests in certain parts of the world though. And I guess he took personal offense at Munich's rejection.

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If Paris is concerned about costs, then they won't need to build a Olympic Stadium, (Which is a big chunk of the cost), because the Stade de France can host The Opening and Closing Ceremonies, as well as the Athletics and Football Finals, if Paris decides to Bid for a future Summer Olympic Games.

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Concerned about costs? That would spell doom for the bid.

What Paris should do is propose that IBC/MPC converted to office and retail space post Olympics like they did for the 2012 bid.

Instead of proposing too many temporary pavilions, you propose a legacy major convention/exhibition centre. Around 50,000 or so sqm of column free dividable space for indoor sports during the games. Be committed that you're willing to put down a legacy venue for the Olympics. Might cost cheaper than the individual venues too.

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If Paris is concerned about costs, then they won't need to build a Olympic Stadium, (Which is a big chunk of the cost), because the Stade de France can host The Opening and Closing Ceremonies, as well as the Athletics and Football Finals, if Paris decides to Bid for a future Summer Olympic Games.

You obviously weren't around in 2005......

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/04/sports/04iht-OLY.html?_r=0

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You obviously weren't around in 2005......

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/04/sports/04iht-OLY.html?_r=0

Trust me I was. I was over the moon my city of London got the 2012 Games.

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