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This idea had been discussed with Quaker 2001 and Sir Rols in the USA 2024 thread. I know that these types of discussions must have surfaced over the years many many times - but you've got to admit, it is great fun.

I don't have time to do the Summer Olympics - but I've just written up an alternative history for the Winter Olympics. There are some mentions and clues of events in corresponding Summer Games that I'll get done to posting when I have time to finish it off.

In my version of events, the Winter Games begin in 1924 and go on hiatus after 1932 until their revival in 1962. However, Ice Hockey and indoor ice events are part of the Summer Games until 1960, when they are transferred to the newly revived Winter Games. The idea was raised by Australian organisers of the 1952 Summer Olympics who objected to the idea of building expensive indoor ice arenas in a country that would have little use for them.

1924 St. Moritz, Switzerland

Skiing events held here, whilst indoor events staged with the 1924 Olympics in Amsterdam

1928 St. Moritz, Switzerland

Due to the 1928 Summer Games behind held outside Europe, the decision was made to stage the first independent Winter Games. Additional facilities built in 1924 Winter host, St. Moritz

1932 Lake Placid, United States (cancelled due to economic crisis New York State tells the IOC it can no longer afford to organise both the Summer and Winter Games in one hit- Swiss authorities abandon initial plans to stage third successive Winter Games in St. Moritz. IOC officially abandons concept. However indoor skating and ice hockey events are pegged to the Summer Olympics from 1936 to 1960)

1932-62 - No Winter Olympics - indooor skating and ice hockey events part of the Summer Olympics schedule

1962 Lausanne, Switzerland

First Winter Games since St. Moritz 1928 held in the IOC's organisational home city. First Olympics since 1900 organised directly by the IOC without any organising committee

1966 Ostersund, Sweden

First, and only time, the Olympics have been staged in Sweden.

1970 Grenoble, France

First Winter Games in France, third French Olympics overall.

1974 Christchurch, New Zealand

Following the stylish modernist flair of Ostersund 1966 and Grenoble 1970 the New Zealanders compete with the Swedish and French and design the iconic 74 Snowflake emblem remaining an iconic Olympic logo of all time. A similar version is reproduced for the 1974 Commonwealth Games held in the same city months later - causing the IOC to produce new rules regarding its visual property.

However, attendance at the 1974 Winter Games is the lowest since their revival in 1962, due to the distance of New Zealand, and July causing issues for many European and North American athletes. IOC hints that it is hesitant to repeat the "Christchurch experiment".

1978 Whistler, Canada

First Olympics held in Canada.

1982 Sarajevo, Yugoslavia

Yugoslavian security forces highly present at the first Olympics following the murder of American athletes at the 1980 Olympics in Paris

1986 Sapporo, Japan

Organised under the umbrella of the Japanese 1984-86 Major Events Ministry. The Committee also oversaw preparations for the 1984 Hiroshima Summer Olympics, the 1986 Japan World Cup, and EXPO 85 in Tokyo. Sapporo was awarded the 1986 Winter Games at same IOC Session in 1980 where Hiroshima, 1968 Summer host, is formally contracted to stage the 1984 Summer Games after the IOC withdraws Teheran, Iran as host of 1984. The Winter Games exist in relative stability following the 1980 and 1984 crises enveloping their Summer counterpart.

1990 Oslo, Norway

An iconic Games, staged as many Eastern Bloc nations march into the Opening Ceremony under one flag, and arrive at the Closing Ceremony under another.

1994 Denver, United States

A triumphant, newly formed Russian Federation beats the USA in an upset Hockey final in Denver.

1998 Grenoble, France

Second Winter Games staged in Grenoble, fifth in France overall.

2002 Quebec City, Quebec

A coming out party for the newly independent Quebec. However, marred with organisational issues, the declining economy of the newly independent nation, and a high security budget following al-Qaeda's attack on Dallas-Forth Worth Airport on the eve of the 2000 Summer Olympics. Canada triumphs at the 2002 Winter Games, coming first in the medal tally - winning gold in the hockey final against Quebec. Riots in Quebec City and Montreal follow.

2006 Krasnodar, Russia

Terrorism arrives at the Winter Games, as Vladimir Putin assassinated by gay Chechen muscle bear as he arrived to watched the Curling competition.

2010 Barcelona, Spain

Very successful Olympics. Glowing reviewed by RobH as the "London 2004 of the Winter Games". On a wave of confidence the city mounts an audacious bid for the 2020 Summer Olympics; if successful it would be three Olympics for Spain in a short period of time following Madrid 1992 - and FOUR if you count the 1996 Aquatics events Madrid had to stage with just 12 months notice, following extensive organisational delays in the 1996 host city, Athens.

2014 Daegu, South Korea

First Olympics held in South Korea. Only second Winter Olympics in Asia after Sapporo 1986.

2018 Salt Lake City, United States

A great Morman affair, after Mitt Romney wins relection in 2016 and has the honour of declaring the Games open. His highly publicised leadership in the 2011 bid was seen as instrumental in winning his first term in 2012, narrowing defeating incumbent Hillary Clinton. Opening Ceremony directed by Baron Pierre IV oddly celebrates the history of Reno, Nevada in a colourful display of stadium theatre.

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I would think that Seoul would stage the first Korean Summer Games

This is only the Winter Olympics. I'll post my Summer Games later. In my version of events - maybe Seoul has never hosted the Summer Games and the Daegu 2014 Olympics Winter Games is the first Olympics in South Korea - fullstop!

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Another good series like this was done by another Aussie member here, Luigi Vercotti. Here's one of them:

http://www.gamesbids.com/forums/topic/18973-an-alternate-history-of-the-olympics-1984/?hl=vercotti#entry292950

That is amazing detail for one event! In my version of events, Teheran is awarded 1984, but following the revolution it ends up in the lap of 1968 host - Hiroshima.

An Australian city was runnerup to Tehran for the 1984 Games, and as runner up was asked to step in before Hiroshima, however the AOC was already proceeding with a 1988 bid with another Australian city, and had to decline. (you will just have to wait and see which Australian city the AOC jilted in this scenario!!) ;)

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He did some brilliant ones, a whole series.

I really had to dig way back in the dusty bowels of this thread, but hunted up:

The First 7 Games

1920s-30s

1940s

1952-56

1960-68

1976

1980

I couldn't find, or remember if he did,1988 and beyond. Though he hinted it would be Down Under!

I wonder what happened to him? He usually turned up at a Games time, but I don't think he looked in over London?

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It's funny how the strength of the Bicentennial year as a brand seems like an obvious year for a Sydney Olympics. If NSW had its shiz together it could have very easily trumped Seoul.

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My Summer Games Predictions up to 2012.

1996 -Athens/ Washington D.C.

The 1996 Athens Games were expected to be the festival of a remarkable century. Except two years after the games were awarded to Athens Greece feel into an economic depression which resulted in riots and lack of funding. The IOC then quickly announced a one year bid process- three cities bid : Sydney, Washington D.C., and Beijing. Washington one the games due to the success of the LA 1932 and 1984 games. The Washington Games are known as the role model for the modern games. The city turned the Mall into a centennial hub and built one of the largest Olympic stadiums with seating for nearly 100,000.

2000- Sydney

For the 2000 games Sydney bid again winning a land slide against Paris and modeling off of the DC design created a compact, modern, and culturally influential games. Like DC, the Sydney legacy unlike 1996 was built off of Barcelona's and it's economic and global impact last today.

2004- Rome

In 2004 the games returned to Europe. Rome won against a line up of European cities such as London, Berlin, and Paris and hosted a games that celebrated Rome's history.

2008- (canceled)d

The 2008 games were a dark year for the Olympic movement. Despite the success of the previous 6 summer games (Moscow 1980, LA 1984, Seoul 1988, Barcelona 1992, D.C 1996, and Sydney 2000) the 2008 games sparked lots of controversy. The bids were put forth by the newly re-built Golden Greek Empire and Beijing, Athens won. Many nations such as France, America, and England opposed the vote a pleaded for the IOC to default the games back to Rome or Sydney, but the negotiations fell through as the world was launched into the "Great European War" which lasted from the attacks of 9/11/2001 (The destruction of the WTC and London's tower bridge) to the peace treaty of 8/8/2008.

2012- Beijing

In 2012 the games resumed in the new Democratic Republic of China's capitol Beijing. The GEW had brought the collapse of Socialist and Communist nations, the unification of Korea, the Arab Spring, and a large spread of the Olympic movement. Beijing's games were a celebrated games around the world and for the first time in Olympic history they were recognized as the first 'World Games' as they were celebrated by nearly all of the worlds nations.


Forgot to mention that Sydney bid for 1996 twice.

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2008- (canceled)d

The 2008 games were a dark year for the Olympic movement. Despite the success of the previous 6 summer games (Moscow 1980, LA 1984, Seoul 1988, Barcelona 1992, D.C 1996, and Sydney 2000) the 2008 games sparked lots of controversy. The bids were put forth by the newly re-built Golden Greek Empire and Beijing, Athens won. Many nations such as France, America, and England opposed the vote a pleaded for the IOC to default the games back to Rome or Sydney, but the negotiations fell through as the world was launched into the "Great European War" which lasted from the attacks of 9/11/2001 (The destruction of the WTC and London's tower bridge) to the peace treaty of 8/8/2008.

^METH IS BAD.

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What if Barcelona had hosted 1936?

They would have been canceled due to the Spanish Revolution. 1936 may have been cancelled.

^METH IS BAD.

I am planning on creating a detailed mini book on the war and it's outcomes.

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Slight variation on this theme:

Franz Kalmmer slips and DNF's his run in Innsbruck. Zeke never gets excited about the Olympics and doesn't really care where they were held before or after.

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My Summer Games Predictions up to 2012.

1996 -Athens/ Washington D.C.

The 1996 Athens Games were expected to be the festival of a remarkable century. Except two years after the games were awarded to Athens Greece feel into an economic depression which resulted in riots and lack of funding. The IOC then quickly announced a one year bid process- three cities bid : Sydney, Washington D.C., and Beijing. Washington one the games due to the success of the LA 1932 and 1984 games. The Washington Games are known as the role model for the modern games. The city turned the Mall into a centennial hub and built one of the largest Olympic stadiums with seating for nearly 100,000.

2000- Sydney

For the 2000 games Sydney bid again winning a land slide against Paris and modeling off of the DC design created a compact, modern, and culturally influential games. Like DC, the Sydney legacy unlike 1996 was built off of Barcelona's and it's economic and global impact last today.

2004- Rome

In 2004 the games returned to Europe. Rome won against a line up of European cities such as London, Berlin, and Paris and hosted a games that celebrated Rome's history.

2008- (canceled)d

The 2008 games were a dark year for the Olympic movement. Despite the success of the previous 6 summer games (Moscow 1980, LA 1984, Seoul 1988, Barcelona 1992, D.C 1996, and Sydney 2000) the 2008 games sparked lots of controversy. The bids were put forth by the newly re-built Golden Greek Empire and Beijing, Athens won. Many nations such as France, America, and England opposed the vote a pleaded for the IOC to default the games back to Rome or Sydney, but the negotiations fell through as the world was launched into the "Great European War" which lasted from the attacks of 9/11/2001 (The destruction of the WTC and London's tower bridge) to the peace treaty of 8/8/2008.

2012- Beijing

In 2012 the games resumed in the new Democratic Republic of China's capitol Beijing. The GEW had brought the collapse of Socialist and Communist nations, the unification of Korea, the Arab Spring, and a large spread of the Olympic movement. Beijing's games were a celebrated games around the world and for the first time in Olympic history they were recognized as the first 'World Games' as they were celebrated by nearly all of the worlds nations.

Forgot to mention that Sydney bid for 1996 twice.

Did Washington even consider 1996? I know it was eventually Atlanta vs Minneapolis. Just checked, and nope they did not. Don't go too far in to the realms of fantasy by conjuring up bidding cities that weren't in the bid race to begin with! Even if past Olympic events (and hosts) might have led to Washington DC bidding for 1996, well they didn't exactly have the sort of infrastructure they have now back then now did they? Even with the transport woes and so forth with Atlanta, that city still had more than what DC had back then.

Why would Sydney need to model it's 2000 bid from DC's? Assuming "proposed" venues from their "1996" bid were built regardless (in Hombush no less), then there would be no need to copycat other bids in attempting something compact, because such things were already there. It would have just been like Tokyo 2016 and 2020. Sydney would have just had to market the bid in a different way and prove that they were the safest choice over all the competitors.

In the real Sydney 2000 bid they learned from past bids by Brisbane 1992 and Melbourne 1996. They knew that not having an existing Olympic main stadium would not be a handicap as even Beijing proposed to build a new one from scratch, rather than upgrading and renovating their Workers' Stadium. Sydney knew that an Olympic Park style approach (like Melbourne's) but with the Olympic Village right next to it would be a high selling point. Sydney also acknowledged that a single purpose Main Media Centre office building would be key rather than say using the convention centre which would be better suited to hosting some indoor sports (even though they ended up building the exhibition centre at Homebush). A legacy in moving the Royal Easter Show to Homebush ensured that the indoor halls built for the Olympics and baseball stadium would not end up as white elephants.

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