Roger87 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 And let me add, in case of respectable posters and supporters of 2024 Los Angeles, I will appologize for that comment. It's just a schadenfreude point for certain person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatinXTC Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 So looks like securing 2 summer Olympic games in one session is looking more and more likely. Well that's just terrible. Don't they realize they'll be robbing Toronto's opportunity of press coverage when they once again decide not to put forth a bid days before the deadline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarkSnow2012 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 50 minutes ago, Roger87 said: reading some press articles and tweets, no everything is great in La La Land after all (As opposed of rose vision glasses), considering some angelinos are having strong criticism against Garcetti and his administration (And not only classical trump-fans but also from liberals). It looks like a cosmic karma. That'll be the fun of an early 2028 award- four extra years for politicking over the Olympic commitment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger87 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, JMarkSnow2012 said: That'll be the fun of an early 2028 award- four extra years for politicking over the Olympic commitment. 100% right. And if Garcetti is smart, he can manage this as his full victory while rejecting his issues for administration (Especially with the worrisome growth of homeless people and dubious constructions in recent years). However remember the previous talk of "how the angelinos had the Olympics in their DNA", "No opposition for Olympics", "How California can show another USA without using federal resources", "Garcetti had no opposition", "The LA Olympics will make BILLIONS (Not just profit)!!!", "How the French are bad hommes and desperates for the village while everything in LA is spot on" and similar arguments (From the same sources thought). In a full trend it was like watching every Abrahamson's argument (And stan) falling hard like a Jenga construction and leaving no single piece. With this point remarked, I think Los Angeles will be a great host. And they definetely pull off the effort of making a third time charming experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseSaenz Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 I think LA taking 2028 with the extra $$$ and having the IOC fund it's city wide youth programs in the years leading up to the Games is as awesome fucking deal if you ask me. If that is the case, let Paris take the 24 Games, I am happy the kids of LA will have a steady stream of $$$ for youth programs for years to come. If Garcetti can get the guarantee from the IOC of the additional funding and budget, I say, do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseSaenz Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 8 hours ago, Roger87 said: 100% right. And if Garcetti is smart, he can manage this as his full victory while rejecting his issues for administration (Especially with the worrisome growth of homeless people and dubious constructions in recent years). However remember the previous talk of "how the angelinos had the Olympics in their DNA", "No opposition for Olympics", "How California can show another USA without using federal resources", "Garcetti had no opposition", "The LA Olympics will make BILLIONS (Not just profit)!!!", "How the French are bad hommes and desperates for the village while everything in LA is spot on" and similar arguments (From the same sources thought). In a full trend it was like watching every Abrahamson's argument (And stan) falling hard like a Jenga construction and leaving no single piece. With this point remarked, I think Los Angeles will be a great host. And they definetely pull off the effort of making a third time charming experience. There was a lot of truth to what Abrahamson was saying. He was right about a lot of what he said, especially in regards to the United States. And what he said would ring true for 2024 (especially after these last few months) and will likely be true for 2028. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 ^Pfft, please. It was mainly L.A. hyperbole & "downplaying" (& sometimes just outright lies) in regards to Paris' bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 10 hours ago, Quaker2001 said: He was too busy writing his latest diatribe on the sport of track and field to make note of this. That article actually got a number of comments, most of which telling Alan he's a schmuck, although my personal favorite.. Darth Nogus says: May 31, 2017 at 4:31 pm u r sucha dork 9 hours ago, Roger87 said: LMFAO, what a great shade after Abrahamson's lies Another good one from that comment section, which rings so true: Barry Irwin says: May 31, 2017 at 10:55 pm "This is a case of a writer coming up with a clever lead and loving his cleverness so much he decided to turn it into a story. It’s like making a movie out of a one-line joke. Hey, and speaking of jokes, this entire column is one." ^The last line is so ironic, cuz it can be dubbed - "the Rocky Horror Picture 'column'!" And so much for his "noteriety" Although, I'm rather disappointed that he didn't seethingly "write" about the double-award deal in the works, favoring Paris 2024/L.A. 2028 (at least not yet anyway). But him going off tangent all of the sudden in his "blog" is quite funny, too. To use Latin's meme here - 10 hours ago, Quaker2001 said: Or is it hosting in 2028, which certainly involves some recalculations, but comes with a bonus of "hey, here's a few hundred million dollars for your troubles" from the IOC. Not to mention the $60 million that L.A. won't have to fork over for another (2028) bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 What's wrong with this Gamesbids system? The past posts won't come up. But I was right. The IOC has to bribe LA to accept 2028 politely. Scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. Youth Games and I guess having the Org Committee going for another 4 years (I'd say that would mean paying 4 staffers). So $500K for the Youth Games and say, $150K each year to pay some staffers. For $650K x 4 years = $2.6 mil; Boy, that's cheap!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 On 5/30/2017 at 9:29 PM, josejose50 said: Lastly, I'm not buying the whole "it would help the movement to have the games back in Europe again". You don't have to buy it. But (much more importantly) Thomas Bach does; citing that Europe is too important to them to simply ignore. And considering how many European bids have told the IOC to take a hike lately, the IOC would be sending the wrong message if the last strong European bid left standing was told 'no thanks'. 17 hours ago, josejose50 said: Past our discussions yesterday when the story broke, my original question is still out there "What incentives can the IOC offer LA to accept 2028?" http://www.scpr.org/news/2017/05/31/72368/garcetti-confirms-la-in-talks-to-host-2028-olympic/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger87 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 hour ago, FYI said: ^Pfft, please. It was mainly L.A. hyperbole & "downplaying" (& sometimes just outright lies) in regards to Paris' bid. This. Hyperboling LA while dismissing (at even expenses of lies or alternative facts) against Paris. Like the nasty "Rocky Horror Show" article, the 2028 European return or the fight of power between Hidalgo and Macron for no other reasons, even when there were photos of them working together beside their differences just after the presidential inauguration, which was corrected by press more related to IOC. The most valuable point of this is Abrahamson's lack of credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 3 hours ago, JesseSaenz said: I think LA taking 2028 with the extra $$$ and having the IOC fund it's city wide youth programs in the years leading up to the Games is as awesome fucking deal if you ask me. If that is the case, let Paris take the 24 Games, I am happy the kids of LA will have a steady stream of $$$ for youth programs for years to come. If Garcetti can get the guarantee from the IOC of the additional funding and budget, I say, do it. I agree it's an outstanding deal, one that probably benefits LA in the long term moreso than if they were to simply beat out Paris for 2024. Take the money and run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) Screw the Paris Climate Change Accord! Grab the IOC-2028 deal instead!! Edited June 1, 2017 by baron-pierreIV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Quaker2001 said: I agree it's an outstanding deal, one that probably benefits LA in the long term moreso than if they were to simply beat out Paris for 2024. Take the money and run. That's L.A.'s "surplus". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 But paul is NOT "okay" with 2028, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Oh, & neither is Putin. Lmfao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 18 minutes ago, RuFF said: For the record I am ok with Los Angeles 2028. Los Angeles, at its core has the Olympic Values present and amongst those values are not being a poor loser and just as important to be 20 minutes ago, RuFF said: I am ok with 2028, too. Especially with the funding of citywide sports programs. These same kids will grow up and compete in 2028. Also, this is how the narrative in California became pro Olympic and it would reinforce that narrative and the Olympic brand. The Olympic brand and Olympic values aren't worth much these days. If you're talking about what this will do for youth sports in LA, then yes, I agree 100% you're correct. That was the legacy of 1984 and could definitely be the legacy of these Olympics. It's a great deal for them and if this is what the IOC is offering them, they should embrace it. Absolutely no reason at this point to continue to take shots at Paris, less LA be considered a sore winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, FYI said: Oh, & neither is Putin. Lmfao Of course one will have to just get used to the idea of a another LA games, what can one do? At lease it sounds like LA is once again in a position to negotiate terms and get paid. Hey we got out of one bad deal today, you can't win them all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacre Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) On 5/30/2017 at 6:29 PM, josejose50 said: If the IOC considers a 12+ year gap as an issue for Europe, then a 28 year gap in North America is ridiculous. European IOC voters/members: 41 North American IOC voters/members: 6 (3 Canada, 3 USA) Edited June 2, 2017 by Nacre 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtrevino Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Quaker2001 said: The Olympic brand and Olympic values aren't worth much these days. If you're talking about what this will do for youth sports in LA, then yes, I agree 100% you're correct. That was the legacy of 1984 and could definitely be the legacy of these Olympics. It's a great deal for them and if this is what the IOC is offering them, they should embrace it. Absolutely no reason at this point to continue to take shots at Paris, less LA be considered a sore winner. As far as I’ve read, I don’t remember anyone officially involved in the LA bid taking shots at Paris. There are soundbites about the other city here and there with obvious inferences comparing themselves against the other. But that applies to both sides and it’s mostly fluff made into something bigger by journalists. For the most part, the process has lacked drama. Journalists and individual commenters, of course, can be opinionated and provocative, but....the internet... 8 hours ago, JesseSaenz said: I think LA taking 2028 with the extra $$$ and having the IOC fund it's city wide youth programs in the years leading up to the Games is as awesome fucking deal if you ask me. If that is the case, let Paris take the 24 Games, I am happy the kids of LA will have a steady stream of $$$ for youth programs for years to come. If Garcetti can get the guarantee from the IOC of the additional funding and budget, I say, do it. Depends on how much for youth programs. We’ll see. The significant incentive is really the potentially 300(?) million in IOC contributions, and maybe even a bigger slice of the IOC/USOC revenue pie if negotiations are in LA’s favor. In 2028, LA has time to breathe even with delays to the LAX and UCLA rail lines. Even better, the SF to LA high-speed rail line (64 billion project!) is expected that year which would open LA up to a whole other level of intrastate traveling, assuming they can fast track it to offset the inevitable roadblocks. 2 hours ago, FYI said: Oh, & neither is Putin. Lmfao Of the crazy wise words of the Disqus commenter, Wong Ka Wok, who warned Paris and LA to beware the actions of Vladimir Putin, and for which readers likely rationally ignored....he was right! https://disqus.com/by/wongkalok/ Russia Considers 2028 Olympic Bid Amid Confirmation That Los Angeles Is Negotiating For Those Games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger87 Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Maybe that was Putin's plan after all, killing USA by getting a puppet without any value and conquering the world in every branch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 ^Trump Putin's puppet? Nahhh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger87 Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 8 minutes ago, FYI said: ^Trump Putin's puppet? Nahhh! Well, that's nipticking to the obvious but then we have paul saying Macron confronting Putin as the same Trump. I mean, even this is reaching contrarian wanabee at most of his levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Pfft, paul. As if we can take anything that he has to say seriously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger87 Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Come on, again for a third time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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