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20 minutes ago, RuFF said:

Ejaycat and Jesse are an example of being a man, the fact that they are gay is an afterthought and irrelevant. But they too don't need a bird (FYI) chirping in like bitches at a club talking **** like they are something, because if indeed you were you wouldn't need groupie bitches backing you up.

That's only bcuz Ejay & "Jesse" (uh huh) are L.A. bid backers. If they weren't, then you'd also be labeling them as "catty faggotry, groupie bitches". You're nothing but a big fucking hypocrite, plain & simple. 

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4 minutes ago, Quaker2001 said:

There are currently 5,333 posts in this thread.  When I wake up in the morning, I'm fairly confident that number will be lower.  I can only pray that more action than that needs to be taken.  This has got to stop.

 

4 minutes ago, Quaker2001 said:

..and for the record, in the event these posts do get scrubbed, I saved the last 3 pages, less anyone think this all didn't actually happen.  It happened alright.

Exactly, it is pretty disgusting the level that Truff has brought this thread to. And the only action that has been taken is that the offending posts simply get removed. I mean other members in the past have gotten suspended (or worse, banned, like that pyrokenesis a while back) for far more trivial stuff. But truff still gets allowed to continue to be deragatory & "vile" for no warranted reason whatsoever other than simply disagreeing with them. Even Tulsa & nature weren't this bad (combined) back for the 2018 race. It's pretty pathetic, to say the least.  

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39 minutes ago, Roger87 said:

I mean, in my counter-arguments I didn't call you with slurs. The worst thing I call you is troll. Even in that sense, I didn't get below your level to defend myself. 

That doesn't matter to truff. As soon as you disagree with her & challenge their "views", you will get insulted & put down by them. Doesn't matter if you never used slurs or insults.

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31 minutes ago, Roger87 said:

The irony is, when I make the point of the majority of events being true as we said previously regardless of Abrahamson's or your hopes, you keep quiet. For being these "groupies" as you disqualified in a terrible way, we're smarter and more rational than you want to recognize, because it's telling you skip it for cheap ways.

Again, none of that matters to Truff, bcuz it doesn't fit her "L.A. awesome mode", then s/he'll simply ignore any constructive criticism & resort to her "cheap ways".

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9 minutes ago, FYI said:

No, I'm saying that you're a fu@king hypocritaical *loser* troll. Why don't you go bump twats instead with your gal pal Abratrollson & get lost. Cuz you're nothing but a waste of bandwidth here. 

Speaking of Abratrollson, TRuff posted (I know surprise) this link: http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1050430/nick-butler-los-angeles-and-paris-offer-different-but-equally-impressive-2024-olympic-visions

Reading conclusions and surprise... 

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I remember when everyone at the 2013 Sports Accord was in total "AWE" with the charming Prince of Spain, & then the hysteria came immediately after that "Madrid 2020 now has the momentum". So if even royalty couldn't woo the IOC in the end, what's Garcetti gonna do. :rolleyes:

And yeah, Garcetti "exceeds" Trump, Hidalgo & even Obama. That's the funniest thing I've heard all week!! Can you say, spin, spin, SPIN, girly!  :lol: 

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12 minutes ago, RuFF said:

Well thanks Roger for the reference. It's interesting Nick Butler found Mayor Garcetti to be the most impressive leader. I recall some birds arguing that he wasn't that impressive, even when I went as far as to say that he exceeded Trump, Anne Hidalgo, and even Obama. 

From Nick Butler himself:

"The most impressive leader I have encountered so far is LA Mayor Eric Garcetti. He was friendly, engaging and always ready with a clever soundbite. We hear he is having just as positive an impact when lobbying voting IOC members. 

Paris counterpart Anne Hidalgo is also highly regarded but has been slightly lower key. We were surprised that it was co-bid leader Tony Estanguet, rather than Hidalgo, performing the main speaking role at today's press conference. Estanguet seems good, and it is obviously great to have an athlete at the fore, but fronting the bid will be a huge challenge for a man with little business, political or administrative experience."

Another reference is Anne Hidalgo playing the lower key role. One can agree or disagree, but if indeed she has her own new party and has political aspirations to challenge Macron, the conflict of him swooping in is real for her, especially if the bid is awarded to Paris for 2024 and the negative press ensues. Not saying that it would indeed happen that way as Paris is highly capable, but if it did that wouldn't be good for her, especially after having publicly acknowledged that she wasn't sure that she could give her blessings to the bid before she actually gave the blessing. By the same token Macron is a star in France right now, and if things go well, which there is much reason to believe that they would, he could also take that glory from her.

LOL to taking just one point of your OWN convenience (Because it has more points to challenge your theories), how predictable. But let me correct if you want to hear it:

One can agree or disagree, but if indeed she has her own new party and has political aspirations to challenge Macron

If you want to know, her Party is the Socialists, widely beaten in these elections and considering the recent reshuffles, she's not exactly in the primal position to get the presidential with people like Hamon and Duflot in the elite.

the conflict of him swooping in is real for her

That "allegedly" conflict is only on Abrahamson head and your head itself. Nothing she does remark as part of feud or conflict, and again, if everything fails for Paris 2024, the primal guilty will be her. Garcetti is obviously making a better effort considering the prospects of the political spectrum with all the high elite in Washington, he really need to rebalance and hence double working.

but if it did that wouldn't be good for her, especially after having publicly acknowledged that she wasn't sure that she could give her blessings to the bid before she actually gave the blessing.

LOL, and you accuse us of challenge reality when you wrote this nonsense: a. She's the MAYOR OF PARIS. Even if she didn't want it (Which she would because she gave the bid her approval in first place), she needs to keep things right and b. In political spectrum, the words matter until the actions happen. She gave the blessing, the project is supported by all the political parties. I leave my high steem and level to call this: "This must be really dumb if you think she, at risk on her own reputation and work, would derail an Olympic bid which is responsable just because she has political desires".  And as I mentioned previously, I had the opportunity to work in a project, she avoided the spotlight, but she's excellent working as part of the team, just in case, SOG medallist Laura Flessel, which is part of the committee and was raved for her participation (Ironically thanks to Hidalgo's goodwill as she consider her for the committee) is currently the Minister of Sport.

By the same token Macron is a star in France right now, and if things go well, which there is much reason to believe that they would, he could also take that glory from her.

LOL finally you recognize Macron factor in play for the bid. Well, let's play either.

But somehow lmfao you just put this small part, when this article:

 

-Dismiss the idea of the "No risk Games" in Los Angeles - It ever put in doubt the guaranteed of Los Angeles Coliseum transformation lol.

-Dismiss the theory of Paris being "high risk" when 80% of the venues are ready

-Put in relevance the European position for the Olympics

-Even called the angelinos as more apathic for the support of the Olympic bid. So no more 88% of approval as big card.

-No security risk and high qualification for a bid, which YOU downplay as lesser one of LA.

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30 minutes ago, RuFF said:

From Nick Butler himself:

Nick Butler himself also says that the 2024 vote will "more likely" still go Paris' way. 

32 minutes ago, RuFF said:

. Estanguet seems good, and it is obviously great to have an athlete at the fore, but fronting the bid will be a huge challenge for a man with little business, political or administrative experience."

That's where Macron will come in. 

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10 minutes ago, FYI said:

I remember when everyone at the 2013 Sports Accord was in total "AWE" with the charming Prince of Spain, & then the hysteria came immediately after that "Madrid 2020 now has the momentum". So if even royalty couldn't woo the IOC in the end, what's Garcetti gonna do. :rolleyes:

And yeah, Garcetti "exceeds" Trump, Hidalgo & even Obama. That's the funniest thing I've heard all week!! Can you say, spin, spin, SPIN, girly!  :lol: 

At least finally Macron entered as part of deal breaker in this new prospect. But isn't it quite telling going for that point while dismissing the bigger picture in consideration? Oh, btw another tweet for Abrahtrollson

The narrative of Abrahamson as the passionate and real choice is falling apart each day

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3 minutes ago, Roger87 said:

The narrative of Abrahamson as the passionate and real choice is falling apart each day

'Bout damn time! You can only write so many damn lies & hyperbole & get away with it for so long! :lol:

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1 hour ago, Roger87 said:

Speaking of Abratrollson, TRuff posted (I know surprise) this link: http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1050430/nick-butler-los-angeles-and-paris-offer-different-but-equally-impressive-2024-olympic-visions

Reading conclusions and surprise... 

As if we needed more proof of RuFF's selective hearing where he only highlights the points he wants to show and completely ignores everything else (and the irony that he constantly brings up how the rest of us are downplaying LA).  From that same article, and I know paul is going to love the first 2 of these..

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Virtually every member of the public we spoke to knew about Paris' bid. Barely a single person we asked in Los Angeles appeared aware. "Did we have it in 1984?" said one, who appeared in their 20s. "Oh, great."

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Public support is an interesting one. I can understand the 88 per cent support figure in Los Angeles because of the laid back apathy we encountered there. I do not think people passionately want the Olympics; they are just not particularly opposed. Yet this, in a way, is impressive in itself. Los Angeles seemed so relaxed and cut adrift from many of the problems faced by the Olympic world and IOC Evaluation Commission chair Patrick Baumann seemed noticeably less tense on trip one than trip two.

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Close involvement from new French President Emmanuel Macron could be crucial. IOC members love meeting world leaders and, given that he is most likely to be still enjoying a honeymoon period, a rockstar performance at the Candidate City Briefing in Lausanne or the decisive IOC Session in Lima could be pivotal. A national leader can make or break a bid by attending the vote. Their currently appears little chance of White House postholder Donald Trump doing that. 

And from the comments section, since apparently a certain "journalist" (I use that term lightly) hasn't gone unnoticed..

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"One journalist in particular has been repeatedly writing that Paris would be too much of a risk while Los Angeles offers a new and reliable model for hosting the 2024 Olympic and Paralympic Games."

Nice dig! Propagandist might be a better description assuming you're referring to the same person. Some LA supporters have lapped up his stuff though.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, RuFF said:

Anyhow, I actually asked Alan to address the tweets via comment on his blog. I agree with him in large part, but I also believe the argument that he's taken a position that isn't popular. Let's see if he bites.

LOL. Of course, doesn't matter if his report is based on real facts or fantasies, just because it's a full love letter to LA2024. No, this isn't a discussion of points or position of a debate. He's been called as "liar", "bad journalist" or "LA cheerlader" with full biased view based on "alternative facts" and zero evidences. And this isn't coming from us, people like Nick Butler (With closer ties with the IOC comparing Abrahamson). And then you called us "downplaying reality". Maybe it's time to buy a new mirror.

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"Virtually every member of the public we spoke to knew about Paris' bid. Barely a single person we asked in Los Angeles appeared aware. "Did we have it in 1984?" said one, who appeared in their 20s. "Oh, great."

Lmfao!! So much for the crapola of the Olympics being at the "soul" of Angelinos. :lol:

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"Nice dig! Propagandist might be a better description assuming you're referring to the same person. Some LA supporters have lapped up his stuff though."

Yeah, starting with AA's #1 spunk lapper, truff. :lol:

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3 minutes ago, Roger87 said:

LOL. Of course, doesn't matter if his report is based on real facts or fantasies, just because it's a full love letter to LA2024. No, this isn't a discussion of points or position of a debate. He's been called as "liar", "bad journalist" or "LA cheerlader" with full biased view based on "alternative facts" and zero evidences. And this isn't coming from us, people like Nick Butler (With closer ties with the IOC comparing Abrahamson). And then you called us "downplaying reality". Maybe it's time to buy a new mirror.

You mean a mirror, period. But yeah, when you now start having other credible, Olympic news media chipping away at AbraTruffson's drivel, then isn't there something really wrong. But no, truffgina will still hypocritically say that we're "downplaying" L.A. :rolleyes:

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1 hour ago, baron-pierreIV said:

It's just LA 2024's bad luck that that Deplorable Orange is the head of state at the time of its bid.  If, say, it had been Hilary Clinton, I think its chances would have improved a little better.  I don't know how Frump is going to screw up the 2026 World Cup bid.  

Not just that it's the Trumpster fire, but now you have France having elected a younger more dynamic leader who will be front and center in Lima.  Even if it had been Clinton, I'm not sure she would have been so heavily involved and I don't know what kind of PR would have gone down with her and Bach.

In comparison to the 2026 World Cup bid, Trump will have little effect on that one, IMO.  Aside from the fact he'll be out of office by then (G-d help us all if he's still in the White House in 2024, but that's still possible), FIFA may fast-track the 3-way USA-Canada-Mexico bid without bringing in any competition.  Contrast that with the 2024 Olympics where LA has to go head to head with another extremely strong bid.  And chances are they'll walk away with something, it may just not be 2024, and as much as Trump is not helping that cause, his winning the US presidential election will more than likely not have affected that outcome.

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30 minutes ago, Quaker2001 said:

Not just that it's the Trumpster fire, but now you have France having elected a younger more dynamic leader who will be front and center in Lima. 

Contrast that with the 2024 Olympics where LA has to go head to head with another extremely strong bid.

Speaking of, did you see the header of the latest long-winded blog of a certain buffoon "journalist", likening the Paris 2024 bid to the Rocky horror picture show? Talk about getting so desperate & extremely ridiculous. I just quickly skimmed through it, cuz it was too tedious, & it was just "more of the same" babble anyway.

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24 minutes ago, FYI said:

Speaking of, did you see the header of the latest long-winded blog of a certain buffoon "journalist", likening the Paris 2024 bid to the Rocky horror picture show? Talk about getting so desperate & extremely ridiculous. I just quickly skimmed through it, cuz it was too tedious, & it was just "more of the same" babble anyway.

I did.  He needs to be careful, less anyone thinks the American media as a whole has a bad take on Paris and it's already been noted that a couple of people on Twitter have noticed.  Funny thing about that though..

On 5/17/2017 at 0:45 PM, RuFF said:

Anyhow, I actually asked Alan to address the tweets via comment on his blog. I agree with him in large part, but I also believe the argument that he's taken a position that isn't popular. Let's see if he bites.

Wouldn't count on it.  He's made a point on previous blogs that he doesn't usually engage with commenters.  So you're probably not going to get a response.  Nice try anyway, Joseph

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1 hour ago, FYI said:

Speaking of, did you see the header of the latest long-winded blog of a certain buffoon "journalist", likening the Paris 2024 bid to the Rocky horror picture show? Talk about getting so desperate & extremely ridiculous. I just quickly skimmed through it, cuz it was too tedious, & it was just "more of the same" babble anyway.

This buffoon is becoming LAME and PATHETIC (And I mentioned that in the other thread). Thank God people and press are taking notice of his desperate lies and "alternate facts". I wouldn't be surprised if his reports, instead of helping LA cause, will create backlash and rejection.

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43 minutes ago, RuFF said:

It appears certain that the IOC is headed toward a double award. This leads me to believe that most of the comments coming from the evaluation were just hot air as it wouldn't be in the IOC's interest to downplay one city or the other, as both are likely hosts. Perhaps exciting each cities leaders (you draw more bees with honey than you do vinegar) will help to bring them on board, regardless of the order the cities host. 

http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1050516/ioc-executive-board-to-discuss-jointly-awarding-2024-and-2028-olympics-on-june-9

Trump cost LA 2024 without a doubt.

LA and Paris being basically perfect 10s, it will boil down to the other stuff like politics and political climate. A lot can happen in 7 years, but Trump with his wild all over the place policies gave Paris a serious push to the front of the line.

LA not having to pay for a 2nd bid helps, and will put LA in a position ask for a bigger cut.

Paris going 2nd puts it in the same position.

It will be interesting.

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14 hours ago, RuFF said:

United Airlines is looking to pay 70 million for the naming rights of the Coliseum for a period of 15 years.

https://www.google.com/amp/losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/05/18/united-naming-rights-memorial-coliseum/amp/

Worth noting.. if LA gets the Olympics, they can't use a corporate sponsor name for the stadium.  So even if it becomes the United Airlines Coliseum or something of the like, during the Olympics it would revert to its old name of Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.

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Yep! To put it into some perspective, British Airways paid £40m to be the official airline of London 2012. I'm sure LA will be selling their rights for even more. If UA want to be associated directly with the Games, they'll have to stump up a similar figure to what they've already paid for the naming rights again. And if they don't, they'll see another airline taking that gig, using images of the Coliseum to promote their brand at a time when the stadium in in the global spotlight. I hope whoever runs UA realises this!

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