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37 minutes ago, RuFF said:

Too bad, so sad. Don't know that I give 2 fks about how you feel or think about it. 

That's funny.  Let's rewind a little..

18 hours ago, RuFF said:

Interestingly enough Baron has actually lived in LA and had no idea that rail serves just about every Sports Zone/Venue. Yet Quaker thinks the IOC members will be no stranger to LA. FYI used its a great place to visit yet missed that the long standing phrase about LA is a terrible place to visit but a great place to live. He's missing "Los Angeles is the face of the world today and of Our nation, tomorrow". If Quaker has missed the idea that Californians, and in general people of the west coast, think of themselves as the newer, better America, then he is obviously not from the West. But Baron is and pretty much anyone from the West knows this. He'd be lying through his teeth if he denied it and any self respecting California native would know it too.

So apparently you do give some fucks what I think.  That or you get off on telling me what you think I think.  You obviously do care about opinions here, or else you wouldn't be trolling so damn hard (or poorly, for that matter).  But whatever.  Not my city that's bidding for the Olympics here.  The city you're rooting for is.  Good luck with that.

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The thing you LA boosters just can't seem to understand is that the IOC only cares about what the host city will do for "the Olympic movement." The sports federations are not interested in urban devel

Sigh! I've tried not to get too involved in the tit-for-tatting in the whole LA debate. And tried to give you the benefit of the doubt and allow that you're a passionate and blinkered supporter of LA

I am struck by the statement that "there is no reason to attack LA." There is no reason to attack any city or any people in any city. This is the horror of terrorism. Whichever city wins any Olympi

9 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Not good for LA 2024's bid 

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/04/10/congress-just-got-involved-united-airlines-incident/ 

since United is the USOC's Official Airline Partner for many years.  I wonder if Paris will blow this matter up or have Air France match it??? 

We should have a bulletin board on things that will have absolutely ZERO effect on the outcome of this race.  The latest item on that board.. what happened on United.

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Just now, Quaker2001 said:

We should have a bulletin board on things that will have absolutely ZERO effect on the outcome of this race.  The latest item on that board.. what happened on United.

How do you know it won't have any effect?  United sports the 5 rings in its ads.  The man was a doctor; and the matter is now getting Congressional attention.  United should have offered Olympic tickets -- maybe they would have had more takers rather than forcibly dragging a paying passenger out -- and an MD no less.  I like United as a rule, but I think they were absolute thugs/Trumpites in this one!  Like the Unholy Trio (Spicer, Bannon and Miller) directed this whole episode.

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Just now, baron-pierreIV said:

How do you know it won't have any effect?  United sports the 5 rings in its ads.  The man was a doctor; and the matter is now getting Congressional attention.  United should have offered Olympic tickets -- maybe they would have had more takers rather than forcibly dragging a paying passenger out -- and an MD no less.  I like United as a rule, but I think they were absolute thugs/Trumpites in this one!  Like the Unholy Trio (Spicer, Bannon and Miller) directed this whole episode.

Because 2 days from now, this will be old news and no one will care anymore.  Let alone 5 months from now when the vote takes place.  I know we here are in the habit of seeing a piece of news like this and thinking how it will affect the Olympic bids.  Reacting in the moment is a bad indicator of what will happen down the line.  The sad thing is that United is within their legal rights to involuntarily remove a passenger from a flight.  And that's every airline, not just them.  Obviously the optics of the video look pretty bad, but this is going to be forgotten about very quickly, congressional investigation or otherwise.

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9 minutes ago, Roger87 said:

For not giving 2 fks about Us, you responded asap and even if indirectly, you care about us. 

 

8 minutes ago, Roger87 said:

I sense envy because...

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Yeah, really. For someone who keeps squaking that they don't care what we all think here, he sure goes outta her way to claim just that. Sounds like a classic case of reverse psychology. 

And I just love how obscessed she is over gay bars. I bet she knows every single one down there in 'Miami'(Beach)! :lol:

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4 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Not good for LA 2024's bid 

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/04/10/congress-just-got-involved-united-airlines-incident/ 

since United is the USOC's Official Airline Partner for many years.  I wonder if Paris will blow this matter up or have Air France match it??? 

Disgusting. Really though, overbooking flights (ie selling tickets WHICH DON'T EXIST) should be illegal. Literally everything in this is United's fault. Things like this don't help the US when Trump is already depressing tourism figures and people are reading about Draconian border checks.

I hope this doctor sues their asses.

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10 hours ago, RuFF said:

FYI and Roger need to take their vile personalities to a gay bar.. Or Quakers house.

Wow RuFF...I mean I guess you consider America's 'New Face' being racially and sexually diverse, accepting, and empowering. You must not consider yourself a part of that group seeing you have no problem demeaning people by making homosexuality appear to be something vile and repulsive...something that doesn't belong and thus oppressing a crucial group of people that form your idea of a 'New Face'. 

You see that's why everyone hates LA, you guys are hypocritical AF. But you're not subtle about it, you get on your high horse and proclaim yourself the future of America; the true protectors of acceptance and social justice. You're not the future, you're just the past with a new face. You're not the true protectors of acceptance and social justice, you're just as uncaring and discriminatory as the people who voted for Trump. 

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7 hours ago, Rob. said:

 Literally everything in this is United's fault. 

Actually, United (or any IATA-member airline) and the airport burlies are all within their rights.  Their actions, yes even bodily removing "disrutpive and unccoperative" passengers, are spelled out in the Terms of Carriage on your ticket...and this is internationally sanctioned organization by the world body that regulates the airlines, IATA.  Which is why Munoz utters the words: disruptive and belligerent passenger.  Those are the words they will use in court for their defense; and since the incident took place in Chicago, their backyard, the man will have a hard time winning anything.  He should just accept whatever United will offer him at first morn.  

United just encountered a feisty passenger, had an unimaginative Departure Manager; and too rush procedures.  But the whole unsightly episode was holding back departure and other dependent flights.  And it's tragic that the displaced victim was a person of color.  I wonder if they would have changed the pick if it was a white man?  But we'll never know.  In this post 9/11 age, the airlines have to maintain TOTAL control of their environment and when they say "jump,' you jump!  When you cooperate -- or when I;ve helped personnel do their jobs when harrassed, I get payback in return.  (Also, one secret to getting good treatment in flying the standard airlines -- dress well and you will get better treatment, like the Business Class passengers.  Dress scuffily and you will get the same treatment accordingly.)  

(I hope this incident opens up more Award seats for me for when I fly in September.)  

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47 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Actually, United (or any IATA-member airline) and the airport burlies are all within their rights.  

And slave owners were within their rights. Just because the system is rigged in favor of corporations and against people, that doesn't mean everyone should sit back and accept it. Good for this guy to stand up (er, sit down) for his natural rights. Hopefully this will trigger change that will benefit us all. 

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1 hour ago, zekekelso said:

And slave owners were within their rights. Just because the system is rigged in favor of corporations and against people, that doesn't mean everyone should sit back and accept it. Good for this guy to stand up (er, sit down) for his natural rights. Hopefully this will trigger change that will benefit us all. 

No, they shouldn't.  But there will be push back from those who control the gates in the meantime.  United should have handled it better; and certain cooperation is also expected in certain cases.  Better bring a pair of handcuffs next time you fly so you can hold on to your seat.  ;)  And of course, Gorsuch just became the swing vote in the Supreme Court, so.... 

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16 hours ago, FYI said:

And I just love how obscessed she is over gay bars. I bet she knows every single one down there in 'Miami'(Beach)! :lol:

With this and another comment wisely posted from Mr. Bernham, I found funny/sad how a die hard cheerlader, which supported the idea of Los Angeles as a more inclusive, tolerant. modern and multicultural American society, it's obsessed with the gay bars and use gay slurs as a form of derogative offense against critics, while dropping a full sense of smug. LOL

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8 hours ago, Rob. said:

Oh yeah, I know it's common practice. But it is basically commercial fraud.

It's capitalism, pure and simple.  Overbooking is a way to maximize profits, at customers' expense.  Passengers are seen as money, not people.  It's not just the airline industry, but hotels and car rental agencies also overbook.  

I think it should be outlawed too, but I think the airline industry would just use that as an excuse to get money in other ways, like a rise in fees, even more fees for whatever else, etc.

And by the way, this latest incident from United Airlines was not an ordinary "overbooking" incident; 4 people were asked to leave so that they could accommodate 4 United employees who needed to get to Louisville:  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/10/business/united-flight-passenger-dragged.html?_r=0

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For whatever reason, my comments seemed to have touched a nerve.  

For argument's sake, what if Honolulu were the US' candidate city?  Would Honolulu be considered "the face of America" (whatever the hell that means)?  And SHOULD it be considered the "face of America," in terms of an Olympic bid?  Honolulu and Hawaii obviously have their own thing going on, and are unique to the rest of the US.  The same could be said if Dallas, or Miami, or Chicago, or New York City, were Olympic candidate cities; in my opinion, none of those cities represent the whole US.      

I never said California and LA are better than the US, just different.  And those differences manifest themselves in many ways.  We've always done a number of things differently here than in the rest of the US, I assume because of our large population in what was considered an isolated part of the continental US until jet travel.  

For the longest time, we were exempt from having to have exit numbers on our freeways when the federal Interstate system was required to have them, because by the late 1950s, California already had an extensive freeway system, and it would be unfair to California to have to spend money in installing exit number signs; we didn't start getting exit numbers until about 2002, and we still don't use them.  People will still say "Take the La Brea Exit off the 10" instead of "Take Exit..." I don't even know what the exit number is for La Brea Ave. from the 10.  

We were the first jurisdiction anywhere in the world to require catalytic converters on cars; they've been required here since the mid-1970s; of course conservatives and the auto industry said that it would be bad for business and the economy, but they were proven wrong.  Other states (and countries) later followed suit.  Because of oil spills, we've banned offshore drilling to protect our beautiful coastline.  

We were one of the last states to have caller ID for land lines, because many felt it was a privacy issue.  

Because of our agriculture, we can use fresh fruits and vegetables in our food and cooking.  I've known people from other states who grew up on canned vegetables, which I can't fathom.  Is that being arrogant, or is that just pointing something out?  

California has banned smoking in restaurants since 1995 (I think), and in bars since 1998.  We now also have banned outdoor smoking on restaurant patios in some cities, and even smoking within 25 feet of any entrance or operable window of government buildings.  Depending on the jurisdiction, smoking also has been banned on beaches, public parks... I think Long Beach has banned smoking within 20 feet of bus stops.  It's obviously a health issue, but for some reason that I can't figure out (apart from maybe some southern states where tobacco-growing is a big industry), the rest of the US has been slow to catch on.  Is that an arrogant statement to make, or am I just pointing something out?

I'm not a smoker, and none of my friends smoke, and I'm used to pretty much a smoke-free environment, which is one of the reasons I hate going to Las Vegas and its casinos.  I know that more states have adopted stricter smoking laws, but man, when I traveled around the US, I was appalled that smoking was still allowed in some shopping malls, airports, restaurants... this is one of the things that I "didn't get" when it came to the rest of the US.  Or the phenomenon of cream cheese on sushi, and liking it (!).  Or what the hell egg foo yung is (I still don't know what it is).  

Growing up in southern California, I always wondered why California and Californians always got made fun of by people from other parts of the country, yet when I visited other parts of the country, I wondered why *we* were made fun of.  

In LA, there are many groups of people who don't assimilate/haven't assimilated.  Which I think is fine, and so do many others.  A transplant co-worker of mine complained to me about how they encountered a person who didn't speak any English (I think the person she encountered spoke Mandarin).  She said "why do they move here and not learn the language?"  My response to her was "Well the 'Pilgrims' weren't told that they had to learn Wampanoag."  My response went over her head.  There are whole neighborhoods and areas of LA County that you don't hear English, and English isn't needed to get by.  And I'm not bothered by that.  I don't claim to speak for everyone from LA, but I doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.  

I'm sure you can tell from my profile pic that I'm not white.  But I do speak English with an American accent.  But even though that's the case, when I was in Michigan, I was assumed to be a foreigner by someone.  Someone actually asked me what country I was from.  That was the first and only time that another American presumed that I wasn't American.  That was another thing I "didn't get."  

 

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>> People will still say "Take the La Brea Exit off the 10" instead of "Take Exit..." I don't even know what the exit number is for La Brea Ave. from the 10.  

It's the Southern California habit of referring to numbered highways as "THE xxx" that makes you weird and different :)

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On the United affair, see this from Business Insider:

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-airline-choose-who-kick-off-flight-united-american-delta-2017-4 

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So, with WC 2026 almost a sure thing headed for the US, it's deja vu all over again for the WC 1994 - Atlanta 1996 tandem.  So, N.America 2026; and then Los Angeles 2028!  Funny how these t hings run in parallels.  

And since Canada will have a piece of the 2026 pie, that pretty much boosts Sion's 2026 Winter chances and kills Calgary's -- altho it could be Calgary's getting into position for 2030.  

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3 hours ago, zekekelso said:

>> People will still say "Take the La Brea Exit off the 10" instead of "Take Exit..." I don't even know what the exit number is for La Brea Ave. from the 10.  

It's the Southern California habit of referring to numbered highways as "THE xxx" that makes you weird and different :)

And on the flip side, when people *don't* say "the," then they're obviously from somewhere else. :)

And, people from LA will know someone is a transplant if they refer to PCH as *the* PCH.

There's a reason why we say "the 5" or "the 10."  It's a holdover from when the older generations used to call the freeways by their actual names: "To get to my house, take the Pomona Freeway to the Santa Ana Freeway to the Hollywood Freeway, and get off at Barham."  When people started using the route numbers instead, the "the," stuck.  And it kinda makes sense to me, since these are freeways.  In LA, one takes "the freeway."  It's the 60 Freeway, the 605 Freeway, the 101 Freeway, etc.  Hence the 60, the 605, the 101.  

In regards to Pacific Coast Highway, we treat it like a street, I guess, instead of a highway.  Just like we say "take a right on Sunset Boulevard" or "take a right at Sunset," we say "take a right on Pacific Coast Highway" or "take a right at PCH."  A native would never say "take a right at the Pacific Coast Highway" or "take a right at the PCH."  Same goes for streets that are called parkways.  In Pasadena, there's a street called Arroyo Parkway, but no one would ever say "make a left on the Arroyo Parkway."  It's just "make a left on Arroyo Parkway" or "make a left on Arroyo."  

  

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Some blurbs about the new LAFC stadium under construction, or the Banc of California Stadium...

From Urbanize L.A.: 

New renderings posted fo the website of LAFC provide a first glimpse of the premium seating at the new Banc of California Stadium, which is currently under construction in Exposition Park.

The $350-million venue - now rising on the former site of the Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena - will offer 22,000 seats for eager soccer fans in time for the 2018 MLS season.

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Link:  http://urbanize.la/post/look-lafc-stadiums-private-clubs

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And this, from Ultimate Rugby Sevens:

Rugby Sevens to take place at new stadium in heart of Los Angeles?

LAFC today announced it will be the official host of the new Olympic sport Rugby Sevens, expanding the international sports landscape in Los Angeles for years to come.

 

Partnering with Grand Prix Network LLC (GPN) and GPN’s exclusively sanctioned partner and Olympic member USA Rugby, LAFC’s Banc of California Stadium will be the permanent home of the Grand Prix Rugby “$1M Champion Sevens,” the world’s richest Rugby Sevens championship in history.

“LAFC is thrilled to welcome the Rugby Sevens to Banc of California Stadium. This championship level event is a perfect match for our world-class venue,” said Tom Penn, LAFC Club President and Owner. “We look forward to partnering with Grand Prix Network and USA Rugby Sevens to welcome rugby fans from Southern California and around the world to Banc of California Stadium.”

“With Rugby now recognized as one of the world’s fastest growing sports, and after extending Grand Prix Network’s exclusively sanctioned partnership with U.S. Olympic member USA Rugby through 2024, it was imperative we establish an equally long-term partnership with a world-class venue. LAFC obviously shares our vision for showcasing nothing but the best. Grand Prix Rugby partnering with LAFC’s fabulous new Banc of California Stadium to showcase the world’s greatest teams playing for a world record million dollar prize is a message to the rugby world that the ‘Father of American Football’ is back, and bigger and better than ever,” declared GPN Chairman & CEO William Tatham.

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Link:  https://www.ur7s.com/news/rugby-sevens-to-take-place-at-new-stadium-in-heart-of-los-angeles-

 

 

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11 hours ago, mr.bernham said:

Wow RuFF...I mean I guess you consider America's 'New Face' being racially and sexually diverse, accepting, and empowering. You must not consider yourself a part of that group seeing you have no problem demeaning people by making homosexuality appear to be something vile and repulsive...something that doesn't belong and thus oppressing a crucial group of people that form your idea of a 'New Face'. 

You see that's why everyone hates LA, you guys are hypocritical AF. But you're not subtle about it, you get on your high horse and proclaim yourself the future of America; the true protectors of acceptance and social justice. You're not the future, you're just the past with a new face. You're not the true protectors of acceptance and social justice, you're just as uncaring and discriminatory as the people who voted for Trump. 

 

5 hours ago, Roger87 said:

With this and another comment wisely posted from Mr. Bernham, I found funny/sad how a die hard cheerlader, which supported the idea of Los Angeles as a more inclusive, tolerant. modern and multicultural American society, it's obsessed with the gay bars and use gay slurs as a form of derogative offense against critics, while dropping a full sense of smug. LOL

I think she's a classic closet case TBH. Only the insecure go through such "vile" & despicable behavior.

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4 hours ago, ejaycat said:

It's capitalism, pure and simple.  Overbooking is a way to maximize profits, at customers' expense.  Passengers are seen as money, not people.  It's not just the airline industry, but hotels and car rental agencies also overbook. 

And that's one of the biggest problems with capitalism (if not *the* biggest), that people are just seen as $$$ signs. There's hardly any moral values in capitalism, & it's all just basically about the bottom line. It's filled with corruption, greed & self interest. Kinda what many people think about the IOC.

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2 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

And since Canada will have a piece of the 2026 pie, that pretty much boosts Sion's 2026 Winter chances and kills Calgary's -- altho it could be Calgary's getting into position for 2030.  

That depends if Sion 2026 even survives the referendum in Valais in October 2018. So Calgary 2026 could still be in.

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59 minutes ago, ejaycat said:

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,,,OH thank god they have a lap pool....I was getting worried.

1 hour ago, ejaycat said:

And on the flip side, when people *don't* say "the," then they're obviously from somewhere else. :)

And, people from LA will know someone is a transplant if they refer to PCH as *the* PCH.

There's a reason why we say "the 5" or "the 10."  It's a holdover from when the older generations used to call the freeways by their actual names: "To get to my house, take the Pomona Freeway to the Santa Ana Freeway to the Hollywood Freeway, and get off at Barham."  When people started using the route numbers instead, the "the," stuck.  And it kinda makes sense to me, since these are freeways.  In LA, one takes "the freeway."  It's the 60 Freeway, the 605 Freeway, the 101 Freeway, etc.  Hence the 60, the 605, the 101.  

In regards to Pacific Coast Highway, we treat it like a street, I guess, instead of a highway.  Just like we say "take a right on Sunset Boulevard" or "take a right at Sunset," we say "take a right on Pacific Coast Highway" or "take a right at PCH."  A native would never say "take a right at the Pacific Coast Highway" or "take a right at the PCH."  Same goes for streets that are called parkways.  In Pasadena, there's a street called Arroyo Parkway, but no one would ever say "make a left on the Arroyo Parkway."  It's just "make a left on Arroyo Parkway" or "make a left on Arroyo."  

  

.....this warms my heart. ...and people say we doing have a community in LA......:wub:.

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Where will the George Lucas Museum fit in?  And that should be up before 2028, right?  So will there still be enough room to fit all the temporary, ancillary structures necessary to keep Exposition Park as the centerpiece of the Games? 

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