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12 hours ago, FYI said:

What's wrong with that, though? It's not like you haven't told 'herpes' yourself that L.A. isn't really the "grand utopia" as he's painting/selling it out to be, either. And it's not like I'm saying that L.A. is a total cesspool either (although, quite a few people would probably have that view anyway). But citing the city's real problems shouldn't be taken as a knock, when in fact those are very real concerns.

Most of the country doesn't really get Los Angeles, which is fine, since we don't get most of the country.

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52 minutes ago, paul said:

yes, the blue line has been running for over 5 years......it loops downtown LB blocks form the water and venues.

 

The Metro Blue Line has been running for almost 27 years.  It opened in July of *1990*.

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12 hours ago, Quaker2001 said:

What difference does it make what he said?  I agree that pointing out the negatives of a city (regardless of what else has been posted) is fair game.  But you said earlier "Who in their right mind would want to live in L.A." so clearly you think it's pretty undesirable. That's a pretty strong opinion if you're goal is merely to refute the "fantastic and fun" line.  And yes it's true that many people have left California to go to other states, and 1 article does refer to it as a mass exodus.  The number 1 reason for that is the high tax rate.  Which obviously is tied into the issue of income inequality.  If LA and California have become more undesirable places to live, particularly for the "have nots," then that's your main culprit right there and probably not so much things like traffic and smog, which people can deal with a lot better when the cost of living isn't so high.

You linked a highly conservative/right-wing source, and the guy considers himself to be a Libertarian.

Many conservatives like to say that people and businesses are leaving California, when the truth of the matter is, California is still the largest economy in the US by far, and its population continues to grow, though not at the pace it used to.  What conservatives fail to point out is that for every business that leaves California, another takes its place.  Headquarters may leave California, but many of their ancillary offices remain in California.  For example, Toyota's American headquarters left LA County for Texas some years ago, but Toyota's design center remains in California, and why wouldn't it; California is the largest car market in the US, and it would make sense to have its design center here, particularly SoCal, where it can see consumer trends.  And surprise surprise!  Texas isn't the great economic draw that it once was, which shouldn't surprise anyone, since their main/dominant economic source was oil/energy, a source of energy that eventually will go away.  Texas' economy isn't diverse.  

Here you go:  Calfornia is Trumpland's Nemesis

And, Los Angeles continues to grow; in fact, since LA become an American city, with each census since 1850, it has kept growing, while other American cities have seen losses in population, or cycles of loss and growth.

 

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52 minutes ago, ejaycat said:

Most of the country doesn't really get Los Angeles, which is fine, since we don't get most of the country.

Funny, so then how is L.A. suppose to be "America's bid" when you guys don't even get most of the country. Oh, the irony in that one, to say the least. 

Besides, what's not to get about L.A. It looks to be pretty clear to most of the country already.

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40 minutes ago, ejaycat said:

You linked a highly conservative/right-wing source, and the guy considers himself to be a Libertarian.

Many conservatives like to say that people and businesses are leaving California, when the truth of the matter is, California is still the largest economy in the US by far, and its population continues to grow, though not at the pace it used to.  What conservatives fail to point out is that for every business that leaves California, another takes its place.  Headquarters may leave California, but many of their ancillary offices remain in California.  For example, Toyota's American headquarters left LA County for Texas some years ago, but Toyota's design center remains in California, and why wouldn't it; California is the largest car market in the US, and it would make sense to have its design center here, particularly SoCal, where it can see consumer trends.  And surprise surprise!  Texas isn't the great economic draw that it once was, which shouldn't surprise anyone, since their main/dominant economic source was oil/energy, a source of energy that eventually will go away.  Texas' economy isn't diverse.  

Here you go:  Calfornia is Trumpland's Nemesis

And, Los Angeles continues to grow; in fact, since LA become an American city, with each census since 1850, it has kept growing, while other American cities have seen losses in population, or cycles of loss and growth.

That's all great.  Why don't you explain that to FYI who said " Who in their right mind would want to live in L.A." and mentioned the mass exodus and the notion that LA is becoming like a third world country because of the income inequality.  He's the one who you should be having that discussion with.

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41 minutes ago, ejaycat said:

Many conservatives like to say that people and businesses are leaving California, when the truth of the matter is, California is still the largest economy in the US by far, and its population continues to grow, though not at the pace it used to.

And surprise surprise!  Texas isn't the great economic draw that it once was, which shouldn't surprise anyone, since their main/dominant economic source was oil/energy, a source of energy that eventually will go away.  Texas' economy isn't diverse.  

And, Los Angeles continues to grow; in fact, since LA become an American city, with each census since 1850, it has kept growing, while other American cities have seen losses in population, or cycles of loss and growth.

The thing is, that growth is not as significant as it once was. Since the beginning of the 21st century, those numbers have drastically decreased. And actually, the states that have seen more growth than California, percentage wise, between 2010-2016 have indeed been Texas & Florida. So Texas' economy can't be as bad as your saying if many people are moving there now, & many of them from California! 

Plus, how many of those current California growth numbers mainly really are from Latin countries versus than from other U.S. states. I'm sure the numbers from the latter portion are a lot, lot less. 

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3 minutes ago, Quaker2001 said:

That's all great.  Why don't you explain that to FYI who said " Who in their right mind would want to live in L.A." and mentioned the mass exodus and the notion that LA is becoming like a third world country because of the income inequality.  He's the one who you should be having that discussion with.

Well, I just responded to it, so :P

Plus, you know how things like that work around here on gamesbids. Like truff & paul should really be the ones having the the dialogue in this thread (but don't) of why L.A. "doesn't need" the Olympics, bcuz the IOC is just filled with a bunch of self-absorbed, greedy elitists & pretentious self-centered athletes, according to paul, while Truff is all for that sh!t in L.A. so long that it's "only" for 2024, that is. :rolleyes:

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23 minutes ago, FYI said:

The thing is, that growth is not as significant as it once was. Since the beginning of the 21st century, those numbers have drastically decreased. And actually, the states that have seen more growth than California, percentage wise, between 2010-2016 have indeed been Texas & Florida. So Texas' economy can't be as bad as your saying if many people are moving there now, & many of them from California! 

Plus, how many of those current California growth numbers mainly really are from Latin countries versus than from other U.S. states. I'm sure the numbers from the latter portion are a lot, lot less. 

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2016/aug/17/julian-castro/julian-castro-says-california-besting-texas-creati/

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10 minutes ago, RuFF said:

You call it being stuck in Miami? I'm stunned by how stupid and off the mark you are. You think living in miami is being stuck? Haha. Nice.

Seems like a million years ago but I spent most of October in Miami.........it was fuuuuunnnnnnn. But I got a couple tickets using the Dolphin tollways...didn't even see where to pay!:angry:

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17 minutes ago, RuFF said:

You call it being stuck in Miami? I'm stunned by how stupid and off the mark you are. You think living in miami is being stuck? Haha. Nice.

When compared to your "grand utopia" of L.A., yeah I do. Why aren't you there in L.A. then if it's as everything as you "claim" it to be. 

And P.S. I've never been "stunned" about STUPID & off the mark you are. It just comes all natural for you. :lol::P

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2 hours ago, RuFF said:

The Metro blue Line serves Downtown Long Beach and the Long Beach Sports Zone. It also serves Downtown with a stop 1 block east of the Downtowns sports Zone. 

The Metro Expo Line serves the Downtown Sports Zone, including Staples Center, The Convention Center and LA Live. It also directly serves the Coliseum, LAFC, Swim stadium, Gallen Center, Media Village. The Expo line will also serve Santa Monica Beach Volley Ball. The Expo Terminus is 2 blocks from the entrance of Santa Monica Pier.

The Purple Line would serve Downtown, major cultural attractions such as the Tar Pits, LACMA, The Broad, Rodeo Drive, Union Station and the Athletes Village. 

the Red Line would serve Downtown, Hollywood and NBCUniversal. 

The Orange Line would directly serve the Sepúlveda Dam Sports Complex providing a direct link to connecting Metrolink or Red Line Service to Downton and Universal. 

Metrolink from union station would serve Perris Lake via the March Airforce Base Station or Downtown Perris. The Honda Center in Anaheim is across the street from a brand new and very beautiful ARTIC Metrolink/Future California High Speed Rail Station. 

The Crenshaw Line will offer Service from the Expo Line (Downtown, Media Village/Coliseum, Santa Monica) to Los Angeles International Airport. It will also have a station in downtown Inglewood 1 mile north of the Los Angeles Stadium at Hollywood Park. 

StubHub, The Velodrom, Tennis will have access to Metro silverLine service with direct access to Downtown, The Green, Expo and Blue Lines. 

Oh OK, I sit corrected.  

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22 minutes ago, ejaycat said:

Far be it for me to try & make a case for Texas, but here it is nontheless:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/commentary/amp/Toyota-contributing-to-Texas-economy-11058773.php

http://www.timesrecordnews.com/story/opinion/columnists/2017/04/09/oil-industry-leads-texas-economic-improvement-trend/100129360/

Plus, IMO what would make Texas more attractive than California to the average American, is it's much lower cost of living, which is really the crux of the matter here.

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29 minutes ago, paul said:

Seems like a million years ago but I spent most of October in Miami.........it was fuuuuunnnnnnn. But I got a couple tickets using the Dolphin tollways...didn't even see where to pay!:angry:

There is no where to pay. Your only options in South Florida are Sun Pass or "toll-by-plate". The rest of the state is moving to that as well. You'll see the same system in place when you come to Massachusetts for the 2028 Boston Olympics. 

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7 hours ago, paul said:

wow...... !

Yeah.  Where've you been, homie? :P  The Blue Line was the first of Metro Rail's lines; even the Gold Line's initial leg opened in 2003, and the Gold Line is one of the newer lines.

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