FYI 1205 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 I agree, the 2024 race already looks like it will be an interesting one. With so many US cities given the chance and a chance for Africa's first games, I think it will be much more exciting. I'm not sure if you realize, but the 'so many U.S. cities' will not be given a chance. Out of the ten cities that the USOC is supposedly talking to, only one will ultimately be officially chosen to present to the IOC. And that's even IF the USOC decides to bid for 2024, which they still could choose not to. And that won't be decided 'til at least another year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr.bernham 384 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 I would not call a Tokyo victory "safe" at this point. I would say that that the other cities will use some type of GOTV system to win. I'm not sure if you realize, but the 'so many U.S. cities' will not be given a chance. Out of the ten cities that the USOC is supposedly talking to, only one will ultimately be officially chosen to present to the IOC. And that's even IF the USOC decides to bid for 2024, which they still could choose not to. And that won't be decided 'til at least another year. I think and hope the city they choose will be DC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yoshi 353 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 What if Toronto had taken a chance on 2020? Without US opposition they'd have had a good shot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krow 562 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 What if Toronto had taken a chance on 2020? Without US opposition they'd have had a good shot. probably not because for some reason people in europe consider north and south america the same continent. embarrassingly, they even have to share a ring. "the colonies" they call them. actually come to think of it that's what they call africa, asia, and australia, too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Athensfan 1081 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 What if Toronto had taken a chance on 2020? Without US opposition they'd have had a good shot. No way. Not right after Vancouver and not with a newly signed American revenue deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aquaflame 0 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Host city winner --> Tokyo First city voted out --> Istanbul How many voting rounds to decide the winner --> Two Which sport will be added --> wrestling Who will be the new IOC president --> Thomas Bach Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intoronto 650 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 and not with a newly signed American revenue deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yoshi 353 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Do we have any real life IOC members or aides here on the forum? Might add to the fun if we can see what really makes them vote for one bid over others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
franxavi 3 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Host city winner --> Madrid First city voted out --> Istanbul How many voting rounds to decide the winner --> Two Which sport will be added --> Baseball Who will be the new IOC president --> Thomas Bach 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FYI 1205 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Do we have any real life IOC members or aides here on the forum? Might add to the fun if we can see what really makes them vote for one bid over others. It's been mentioned that some perhaps may lurk on here, but seriously doubt that any of them would put themselves in a precarious situation like that here, if they're not bound by some agreement not comment in such places TBW. I'm sure they have better things to do than listen to us here. What if Toronto had taken a chance on 2020? Without US opposition they'd have had a good shot. No way. Not right after Vancouver and not with a newly signed American revenue deal. Ohhh, now there's a thought. I would've loved to have seen a Spanish/Canadian flame war like that! I would've paid money for a front seat in that show! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krow 562 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 It's been mentioned that some perhaps may lurk on here, but seriously doubt that any of them would put themselves in a precarious situation like that here, if they're not bound by some agreement not comment in such places TBW. I'm sure they have better things to do than listen to us here. well, they could read and comment as anonymous users, obviously. a small few probably do, as been hinted on here from time to time, realizing that every now and again this forum is capable of churning out the rare kernel of insight on bid politics—as well as a few snappy one liners from me, of course. but in reality, most top brass at the IOC are so rich and self-important they simply pay people to do their thinking for them, and those people probably read GB. or at least, that's how i like to imagine IOC members: nodding quietly while sitting in their marble palaces with their feet on the desks, swilling a snifter of brandy while six-figure consultants and harried interns half dead from exhaustion fall all over themselves to pass barely paraphrased GB posts off as painstakingly-researched market analysis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rols 1902 Posted August 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 What if Toronto had taken a chance on 2020? Without US opposition they'd have had a good shot. I'm sure they're not the only NOC heads or city fathers around the world muttering to themselves now: "Coulda, Shoulda, Woulda". or at least, that's how i like to imagine IOC members: nodding quietly while sitting in their marble palaces with their feet on the desks, swilling a snifter of brandy while six-figure consultants and harried interns half dead from exhaustion fall all over themselves to pass barely paraphrased GB posts off as painstakingly-researched market analysis. I wonder what tyey made of Mr X's deflowering? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krow 562 Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 [quote name="Sir Rols" post="403622" timestamp=" I wonder what tyey made of Mr X's deflowering? Let's just say that a particular hilton stairwell got a lot of increased traffic from a certain class of 60 year old ex sailing stars, European counts, and former Hungarian shot putters-cum-businessmen (emphasis on the cum, naturally). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michelinternational 7 Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 + Host city winner... Madrid + First city voted out... Istanbul and Tokyo + How many voting rounds to decide the winner... One + Which sport will be added... wrestling + Who will be the new IOC president... Thomas Bach 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DannyelBrazil 703 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Hmmm, Istanbul is some kind of underdog now? Great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
runningrings 678 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I prefer to say dark horse. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fatixxx 31 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 final presentations based on the final promotional videos; The videos in respectively order = IST | MDR | TKY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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DannyelBrazil 703 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 The Madrid video is ways better now than for 2016 race. That "proud population" mood always sound a bit arrogant. Is it serious? Istanbul using Rihanna? Well, I love this song, but, why not something more Turkish? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rols 1902 Posted August 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 That's Los Caidos, isn't it? That's a bit like Tokyo putting the Yasakuni Shrine on their bid images. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yoshi 353 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Since Barcelona has spent nearly all its history telling the rest of the world that it's not Spain, will 92 actually have less of an impact on Madrid? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deloxley 11 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 That's Los Caidos, isn't it? That's a bit like Tokyo putting the Yasakuni Shrine on their bid images. Dont think for a moment that this image with the Madrid 2020 logo is real. I dont know if the person who posted the photo is the one who did it, but one have to be a really bad person to do that. At the end of the day, all these non sense attacks to Madrid seems to be because it is a real contender and it seems it bothers them. That's Los Caidos, isn't it? That's a bit like Tokyo putting the Yasakuni Shrine on their bid images. And the funny thing is that the person who posted the picture is someone supporting Madrid. Wow, what a nice way to be a supporter, posting a place done by a fascist dictator like the image of Madrid. I dont want to insult anybody but sometimes it seems that homo sapiens brain evolution didnt go the same for everybody. Of the three cities I like the Tokyo video the most, I think it inspires something more positive. The Madrid one is nice, but a bit too serious and the music is a little bit sad... the video form Istanbul is very nice because the city is amazing, but I dont like the music... I think Turkish music would have been much nicer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul 619 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 -all 3 videos are terrible- Japan and Madrid suffer from very bad effects, and though Istanbul seemed to have the best production quality, it also had too many “staged” actors making it seem phony. The 2 hookers and one guy that go on a boat ride from 2:10 to 2:22 is lame. Rihanna’s song is just out of place and kinda sad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DannyelBrazil 703 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 IMO, Rio still have the best bid videos ever... Specially the Unity one in the Copenhagen presentation. That's was special. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amarillo 6 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 I don't know if you have seen Madrid's last video, from July. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjS5APpurPA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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