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So maybe that's what Sweden have been missing? The IOC wanted Sweden but weren't keen on a village like Ostersund, & you're saying that the profile of Stockholm would combine with the history of Sweden to produce the win? I hope you're right, but I just don't think Stockholm would beat Oslo, & to be frank, I don't think either of them stand a chance against Munich.

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I agree ^

as much as I am all behind Munich, I sense that Oslo could be the big upset in the 2022 race. The Norwegians have such cultural power behind the OWG - and everyone knows that an Oslo Olympics would be perfect and flawless.

My personal issue with an Olympics in Norway is that it is SO expensive.

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Just came across this:

Beijing, Zhangjiakou Co-bid for 2022 Winter Olympics

2013-11-05 17:09:20

Beijing and northern Chinese city Zhangjiakou will launch a joint bid to host the 2022 Winter Olympic Games, the Chinese Olympic Committee (COC) announced here on Tuesday afternoon.

Beijing, 2008 Summer Games host city, bids to stage the ice events while Zhangjiakou seeks hosting rights for snow sports, according to the COC.

Zhangjiakou, a city in Hebei province, is located 200km northwest of Beijing.

An intercity railway has been planned to connect the Chinese capital and Zhangjiakou. It will only take about 40 minutes to travel from Beijing to Zhangjiakou once the railway is in use. The construction is expected to start at the end of this year.

http://english.cri.c...3441s796603.htm

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Well, time to update the list:

Almaty, Kazakhstan

Lviv, Ukraine

Beijing, China

Krakow, Poland

Oslo, Norway

Munich, Germany

Stockholm, Sweden

Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina

USA

Canada

Barcelona, Spain

Finland

Switzerland

Ostersund, Sweden

Harbin, China

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Well, stop worrying everyone. It's official(ish) Oslo is in!

Oslo confirm they will bid for 2022 Winter Olympics and Paralympics

Oslo will become the fifth candidate to officially declare that they will bid to host the 2022 Winter Olympics and Paralympics before next week's deadline closes.

Residents of the Norwegian capital voted in September to back a bid following a referendum and the campaign will be officially launched within the next few days.

The International Olympic Committee (IOC) deadline for cities to submit bids is November 14.

"The city of Oslo will within the deadline to submit our candidature to the IOC, announce our genuine ambitions of applying for the 2022 Olympic Winter Games," Ingunn Olsen, director of communications at Oslo 2022, told insidethegames.

Oslo lasted hosted the Winter Olympics in 1952 while Lillehammer staged 1994, the only previous occasion they were staged in Norway.

"Norway is the cradle of winter sports, and the year 2022 will mark 70 years since the 1952 Oslo winter Olympics, and 28 years since IOC President Juan Antonio Samaranch declared the 1994 Lillehammer Olympics 'the best Games ever'." said Olsen.

"Since the beginning of 2012, the city of Oslo and the Norwegian Olympic and Paralympic Committee and Confederation of Sports (NIF) have worked extensively together on a concept for an Oslo 2022 Olympic and Paralympic bid.

"With our concept 'Games in the City', we will present ultra-compact Games, and an unique combination of an international urban environment and a great nature experience.

"With this new bid, Oslo seeks to create a spectacular, ultra-compact and urban Olympic experience for a new generation."

Oslo will join Almaty, Kazakhstan's largest city, who were the first to announce in September that they would bid.

They were followed yesterday by Lviv in Ukraine and a surprise joint bid from Beijing and Zhangjiakou.

There is today also due to be official confirmation that there will be a joint bid from Poland and Slovakia, with Krakow as the main centre.

Munich, who were beaten for the 2018 Winter Olympics and Paralympics by Pyeongchang, are also expected to bid again if the majority of people in the city and surrounding counties back the campaign in a referendum due to take place on Sunday (November 10).

The interest of so many cities will be a welcome boost for the IOC after the race for 2018 attracted only three entries.

The lack of entries forced them to keep Annecy in the contest, even though the bid was generally considered one of the weakest in recent history to get to that stage, a fact reflected in the final voting at the IOC Session in Durban in July 2011.

They polled only seven votes, the lowest total for 25 years.

It will be Oslo's fifth bid for the Winter Olympics.

Besides 1952, they also bid unsuccessfully for 1932 and 1968, as well as 1944, which were not held because of World War Two.

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I hope so too. Unlike Doha and Baku, maybe these applicants can legitimately make a claim for the winter shortlist. I'll admit I know nothing about some of these places, but that's part of the mystique for this 2022 race. It'll be interesting to see what places like Almaty, Zhangjiakou, Krakow and Lviv can offer.

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The diversity is fantastic.

If Munich does a no show - I have a slight feeling that Oslo will be the Tokyo of this race. Old reliable, former host up against the "Istanbuls" - Beijing, Lviv, Krakow and Almaty. I love something new, and while I think Oslo would make a great host, I'm going to back the underdog again! Without Munich, I'm quite intrigued by Almaty and Beijing. Lviv and Krakow would maybe be great options after Western Europe has had a turn again (perhaps we might see them in the 2030s)

I also have no issues with three consecutive Asian Olympics. I'd rather that than three back-to-back Euro Olympics *yet again*. This is the Asian Century after all!

(good for Australian TV viewing too!)

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The diversity is fantastic.

If Munich does a no show - I have a slight feeling that Oslo will be the Tokyo of this race. Old reliable, former host up against the "Istanbuls" - Beijing, Lviv, Krakow and Almaty. I love something new, and while I think Oslo would make a great host, I'm going to back the underdog again! Without Munich, I'm quite intrigued by Almaty and Beijing. Lviv and Krakow would maybe be great options after Western Europe has had a turn again (perhaps we might see them in the 2030s)

I also have no issues with three consecutive Asian Olympics. I'd rather that than three back-to-back Euro Olympics *yet again*. This is the Asian Century after all!

(good for Australian TV viewing too!)

Honestly, should Munich not bid, I really think Krakow could be a dark horse over Oslo. They are building all the infrastructure and offer a new place to host the winter games, sort of similar to Beijing. I don't know why, I just find Krakow an attractive place to host the games...

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Beijing may offer a very competent bid, but I don't think there's any chance of 3 consecutive Asian Games unless everyone else implodes. Plus, why would the IOC go back to not only the same country but the same city within 14 years. No way.

Of the current candidates, it's got to be Oslo with Almaty in second.

I think both Lviv and Krakow are likely to miss the shortlist.

Still hoping for Munich.

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(they could knock out the Polish-Slovak joint bid, but keep on Lviv to avoid any accusations of anti East Euro bias)

Krakow 2022 bid, or "the Polish-Slovak joint bid" as you all prefer to name it, is entirely consistent with Olympic Charter. Why should IOC remove it from bidding list?

Lviv is the first city to knock out. I think that even Sergei Bubka can't help them. it's a nice bid, but i can't see it realized until, let say, 2038.

Lviv and Krakow would maybe be great options after Western Europe has had a turn again (perhaps we might see them in the 2030s)

I can't really say for Polish OC , but Krakow 2030 is on the way.

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I really think Krakow could be a dark horse over Oslo. They are building all the infrastructure and offer a new place to host the winter games, sort of similar to Beijing. I don't know why, I just find Krakow an attractive place to host the games...

Wow, I love you so much right now.

Aren't those donuts in your avatar just a Polish "pączki"?

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(they could knock out the Polish-Slovak joint bid, but keep on Lviv to avoid any accusations of anti East Euro bias)

I think it would actually be the opposite. The Ukrainian bid still needs to develop heavily in many categories in order to be ready by 2022, so much more than Poland does. I think it's too much for the IOC to feel comfortably enough with in a country that's also needs to develop in Winter sports & other infrastructure. Not to mention how Poland is more 'westernized' than the Ukraine. "Joint" Poland/Slovakia is more akin to Salzburg's 2014 bid having one venue just over the border. As long as it's not too much going on the Slovakia side, & they can come up with the narrative, I think this bid could be the dark horse for 2022.

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