baron-pierreIV Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 /\/\ Yup, u got that right!! Gosh, I just feel so lucky today, basking in the glow of the Omniscient one!!
Barcelona_'92 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Fox obviously have a vested interest in when the World Cup is held, but like gromit said, they're powerless in this one. It's not like the Olympics where NBC pays a large percentage of the TV rights to the IOC. Fox can exert all the pressure they want on FIFA, but it's not going to help them. They're probably going to get screwed and there's little to nothing they can do about it. Didn't Fox pay $450 million for the rights to the World Cup? I'd be interested to know how that figure compares to the European broadcasters. I agree they're going to get screwed, and I wonder if there's any clause in their contract with FIFA that would allow them to re-negotiate terms in the event of a date switch.
intoronto Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Too bad for fifa they lose north america and some part of europe that dpnt qualify for wc cuz of football and ths wog. Ioc loses the soccer fans elsewhere. Its a lose lose sitiation all because the idiots on fifa voted qatar
baron-pierreIV Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Too bad for fifa they lose north america and some part of europe that dpnt qualify for wc cuz of football and ths wog. Ioc loses the soccer fans elsewhere. Its a lose lose sitiation all because the idiots on fifa voted qatar Well, they have 9 years from today to slowly tweak the calendar a few days here, a week there, so that hopefully by 2022 it can all scrunch together in some haphazard, over-crowded way that'll satisfy nearly everyone. And then all returns to normal starting January 2023 -- and these int'l organizations will NEVER attempt anything so stupid as double-awarding of sites.
baron-pierreIV Posted August 31, 2013 Report Posted August 31, 2013 @Quaker...can u please clear your mail box?
Quaker2001 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Posted August 31, 2013 @Quaker...can u please clear your mail box? Mail box emptied
August Posted September 8, 2013 Report Posted September 8, 2013 I believe the 2020 games will be in Europe. Asia has the 2018 and 2020 games, and there doesn't seem to be North American bidders. And Europe should have many ciies/regions able to host the games. ^^I meant the 2020 games, of course.
JMarkSnow2012 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Posted September 8, 2013 I believe the 2020 games will be in Europe. Asia has the 2018 and 2020 games, and there doesn't seem to be North American bidders. And Europe should have many ciies/regions able to host the games. ^^I meant the 2020 games, of course. Does your spell-checker have an obsession with "2020"?
August Posted September 8, 2013 Report Posted September 8, 2013 Does your spell-checker have an obsession with "2020"? Facepalm at me, I meant 2022. I hope it's right this time.
stryker Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Posted October 27, 2013 Less than a month before the application deadline and there's one official candidate city - Almaty. Have to wonder if some in the IOC are sweating a bit more as the deadline date draws closer. The referendum in Oslo but there's still no official guarantee that the bid will go forward. No doubt the IOC will be watching the Munich referendums very carefully. If the deadline for the applicants passed and Almaty was the only candidate, would the IOC vote for Almaty or would they try to find a loophole to extend the application deadline in the hope that another more viable candidate came forward?
markun Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 I imagine there would be some fairly frantic lobbying from the IOC if only Almaty were to bid. For all we know that might be the case behind the scenes now. I'm sure they are addressing it now rather than waiting until after the deadline and the potential embarrassment that would mean. Munich is out of their hands but I imagine they are keen for Oslo, Stockholm, Krakow and Lviv to formalise their plans.
baron-pierreIV Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 Oh, I am sure Bach, the IOC and the German NOC are moving heaven and earth quietly to make sure the Munich referenda come in quite convincingly. The US has just been so stupid to pass up this opportunity for the more troublesome and sweaty SOGs.
stryker Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Posted October 27, 2013 Ideally, I've said the IOC wants either Oslo and or Munich in the race; Oslo still looks shaky and Munich has a referendum only days before the deadline. For all the talk about how a Thomas Bach presidency would hurt Munich's chances, it seems to be exactly the opposite. In a race where it looks like there could be as few or fewer contenders than 2018, Bach is most likely working behind the scenes to make sure a Munich bid gets through. Another scenario, although less likely, is neither a Munich or Oslo bid to challenge Almaty, but the joint Poland-Slovakia bid and or a Stockholm bid with Are. In either case, I'm sure the IOC would conveniently overlook the distance issue in the case of Stockholm, or make a one time exception on a joint bid especially if it's marketed as a Krakow bid with only Slovakia used for the alpine events.
ofan Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 Wow, it's only two and a half weeks until the deadline. Didn't realize that it's coming up so fast. I'm sure there's a lot of anxious people in Lausanne right now.
markun Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 It isn't a joint Poland-Slovakia bid, it's a Krakow bid with some events planned to be held in Slovakia which is permitted under the Olympic Charter.
Athensfan Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 I doubt The IOC would've explicitly dissuaded Barcelona if they really believed there was a chance Almaty could be the sole bidder.
donutman88 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 I doubt The IOC would've explicitly dissuaded Barcelona if they really believed there was a chance Almaty could be the sole bidder. I read somewhere that the Krakow bid will be submitted just hours before the deadline, and I'm assuming Munich and likely Oslo will do so as well. If Oslo and Munich don't decide to bid, I'd venture to bet somebody may rush the papers and put in a sloppy last-minute bid or change their minds...
Athensfan Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 I read somewhere that the Krakow bid will be submitted just hours before the deadline, and I'm assuming Munich and likely Oslo will do so as well. If Oslo and Munich don't decide to bid, I'd venture to bet somebody may rush the papers and put in a sloppy last-minute bid or change their minds... I think the Olympics have gotten to the point where "sloppy, last-minute bids" are an impossibility. It is more likely that the IOC would extend the deadline. It remains to be seen whether the IOC it will even accept the Krakow bid due to the location of venues in Slovakia.
donutman88 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 I think the Olympics have gotten to the point where "sloppy, last-minute bids" are an impossibility. It is more likely that the IOC would extend the deadline. It remains to be seen whether the IOC it will even accept the Krakow bid due to the location of venues in Slovakia. That's true, it would be more likely for them to extend the deadline. That being said, I don't see that happening with Munich and Oslo probably deciding at the last minute. If for some reason one of the two doesn't bid, or say even both of them, I think the IOC would have no choice but to allow a joint Polish/Slovakian bid, although I already think they will allow it with so few bids being put forward. Then again, you never really know with the IOC...
Sir Rols Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 It remains to be seen whether the IOC it will even accept the Krakow bid due to the location of venues in Slovakia. From what many of the posters say here, though, it will be marketed as a Krakow bid, with one event in Slovakia, as opposed to a joint Krakow-Slovakia bid. Analagous to Salzburg using the sliding facilities across the border in Germany. So not totally out of the question IMO.
markun Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 From what many of the posters say here, though, it will be marketed as a Krakow bid, with one event in Slovakia, as opposed to a joint Krakow-Slovakia bid. Analagous to Salzburg using the sliding facilities across the border in Germany. So not totally out of the question IMO. Exactly. It is entirely permitted by the IOC. It might not be considered ideal but nothing against the rules there. We don't know what is going on behind the scenes in terms of bids and cities in dialogue with the IOC so I wouldn't panic about them extending deadlines quite yet.
baron-pierreIV Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 Time to dust off a Sarajevo bid??
gotosy Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 Lviv set to officially announce bid for 2022 Winter Olympics and ParalympicOctober 28 - Lviv are set to announce officially next week that they will bid for the 2022 Winter Olympics and Paralympics with its campaign to be led by Ukraine's Deputy Prime Minister Oleksandr Vilkul. Lviv City Council have officially voted in favour of the bid and it now just requires the formal approval of the National Olympic Committee of Ukraine at its General Assembly on November 5. It means Lviv will become the second candidate to confirm that they will bid, following Kazakhstan's largest city Almaty, which declared last month. ... full article http://www.insidethegames.biz/olympics/winter-olympics/2022/1016689-lviv-set-to-officially-announce-bid-for-2022-winter-olympics-and-paralympics
yoshi Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 If the Swedish government gives Stockholm their full backing, I can see them becoming favourite very quickly, when you look at the support issues of Munich & Oslo, & the geopolitics of Lviv & Almaty. On another note, in the 2018 Commies race, Hambantota popped up without ever being talked about before the deadline. Could something similar happen here, a candidate coming 'out of nowhere'?
StefanMUC Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 Well, Munich and Oslo ran/will run the risk of a pre-bid referendum, which makes the "support issues" more obvious. We don't really know how a referendum result would be in Stockholm at this stage, so this point is a bit unfair to those taking the risk to get approval beforehand. As for the bunny out of the magic hat: Sri Lanka has no skiing resorts ;-)
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