yoshi Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 After Russia, Brazil, S Korea, & possibly Turkey, the IOC would love to be able to go somewhere like Norway, probably the most peaceful, inoffensive country in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Inoffensive ? ever heard of the Vikings ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.bernham Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Inoffensive ? ever heard of the Vikings ? Ever heard of 500 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 It's 2013 you know. Norway haven't been at war for hundreds of years, & they are consistently ranked in the top 3 countries in the world for things like human rights, press freedom etc ever since they started ranking. The IOC would surely love somewhere like that, especially if they pick Istanbul for 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Oh please. The IOC is all about the DRAMA! They had their chance for "somewhere like that" with Austria. But they chose drama queen Russia instead for their big shebang. How boring would it be around here then, if it weren't for Russia's anti-rainbow laws or paul's end-of-the-world anti-Japan's posts! Need to spice it up as much as possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningrings Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Pfft. Its easy for the Norwegians to preach peace and freedom as the wealthiest country in the world from their northern European perch. The bit that they don't tell you is that much of their wealth is generated from investments in mining in much of the developing world. There is a lot to be said for the Swiss and Norwegians who remain neutral. If every country took the path of non-offense the world would be mumbling chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Norway is not an inoffensive and peaceful country. Contrary to Switzerland, it is not neutral. It is an active NATO member, with F16 fighters. It has troops in Afghanistan. Don't make it sound like it was Costa Rica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattygs Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Norway may be relatively peaceful (and a lovely country it is indeed.... all be it extremely expensive), however often with those countries (I guess you'd include the Sweden, Iceland and New Zealand's of the world in this) you also get an extremely low tolerance of anything disturbing that peace. So the IOC would most likely have to encounter and larger than usual element of public protest, orderly protest, but protest none the less. Ps, the whales probably don't think Norway is too peaceful. lol Still, would certainly be one of my picks for another Olympic Winter Games in the near future if I could go anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Lillehammer were the best Olympic Games ever. And I was there. They would be excellent hosts. But there are many countries where I'd like to see the Winter Games before going back to Norway: Germany, and Sweden to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromit Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Potentially a more troubling scenario is approval by FIFA for Qatar 2022 to be held in the Winter months. If it is held close to the usual dates for the Winter Olympics then it might have a serious impact. Could cities be holding off to see the outcome of FIFA's decision? Oslo estimate a games could cost $5.2bn ... even Stockholm are saying $2.3bn which is a lot of money if a competition is competing for fans and sponsorship money. Could the IOC decide to shift the dates of the Winter Olympics? Rogge has said there are 'no plans to' ... which suggests that it has been discussed. If the dates were shifted to the early autumn, could this bring a Southern Hemisphere bid into play? For example, the 2014 FIS season will start in Solden on 27th October - the Mt Hutt, New Zealand ski season has been extended to 13th October due to good quality and abundant snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markun Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 I think the 2022 race could be very interesting. Let's say Oslo don't make it past the referendum and something similar happens with Munich. A split-site bid from Sweden, or even as gromit says, a southern hemisphere bid - could start to look a lot more attractive. I hope Munich will bid, if they do, I am certain they will run away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangwon Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Potentially a more troubling scenario is approval by FIFA for Qatar 2022 to be held in the Winter months. If it is held close to the usual dates for the Winter Olympics then it might have a serious impact. Could the IOC decide to shift the dates of the Winter Olympics? Rogge has said there are 'no plans to' ... which suggests that it has been discussed. They better not. FIFA can work around the IOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 The 2022 world cup will not be moved to the same time as the wog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 If Qatar is moved, just hold the winters in NZ. Simples! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 If Qatar is moved, just hold the winters in NZ. Simples! NO that is not simple, as NZL has said they don;t have the capability of hosting the WOG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Potentially a more troubling scenario is approval by FIFA for Qatar 2022 to be held in the Winter months. If it is held close to the usual dates for the Winter Olympics then it might have a serious impact. Could cities be holding off to see the outcome of FIFA's decision? Oslo estimate a games could cost $5.2bn ... even Stockholm are saying $2.3bn which is a lot of money if a competition is competing for fans and sponsorship money. Could the IOC decide to shift the dates of the Winter Olympics? Rogge has said there are 'no plans to' ... which suggests that it has been discussed. If the dates were shifted to the early autumn, could this bring a Southern Hemisphere bid into play? For example, the 2014 FIS season will start in Solden on 27th October - the Mt Hutt, New Zealand ski season has been extended to 13th October due to good quality and abundant snow. FIFA has said they would move the WC to December rather than January/February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barcelona_'92 Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 I still think it's more likely that the 2022 World Cup will be moved out of Qatar than the dates will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Too much I stake, I think. Litterally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Will Switzerland try to get a bid through a referendum again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympiaki-agones Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 It'd be interesting to see how two Summer Olympic cities (Munich'72 and Barcelona'92) battled against each other to get the 2022 WOG. Oslo doesn't seem convincing for Norwegian people and have no interest to waste more time and money, above all when they are already awarded by a smaller event like Lillehammer 2016, just to use their infrastructure from 1994. About Krakow, the Polish government first has to invest in a decent highway to Zakopane and the Slovaks have to improve their gate to Poland from Poprad. Certainly I'd like the idea of Almaty hosting, but as many have expressed, is geopolitically to close from Sochi, such as any Ukrainian city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Oh sure, Norway is a beautiful and friendly place. But it has the most expensive beer in the world.... roughly $10/beer. That along should disqualify them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Could this affect the 2020 vote? Will the IOC leave Madrid to give Franco Jr his big moment in Barca, just as Dad did 30 years before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Could this affect the 2020 vote? Will the IOC leave Madrid to give Franco Jr his big moment in Barca, just as Dad did 30 years before? Personally, I don't think there's any chance that the hint of a possible Barcelona bid would induce anyone to vote against Madrid for 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromit Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 NO that is not simple, as NZL has said they don;t have the capability of hosting the WOG. If they rebuild Christchurch there may be ample opportunity There is talk of a new football stadium - if uncovered then you've got a ceremonies venue, if covered i.e. multipurpose then it potentially could be a large temporary indoor arena in a similar vein to the Forsyth Barr stadium in Dunedin (Large Hockey Venue) The convention centre was demolished. A new one could be the location for speed skating The CBS Arena is still standing. (Smaller Hockey Venue) Both Sochi and Pyeongchang have got one venue which will be relocated somewhere else in the country. (Figure Skating) A small curling arena could be a good location for the local ice hockey team Outside you've got the possibility of Mt Hutt, Porter Heights or even Craigeburn holding the Alpine/Outdoor events. New Zealand would be a perfect venue for a ski jumping hill because at present, ski jumpers practise/compete on grass/mats so a proper snow venue would be perfect and well supported post games. As a number of bob runs are closing after the games, it would not surprise me if a temporary design is used for this and future games - or provide the sport with a southern hemisphere bob/sliding facility. And don't forget that Christchurch for a city of its size has already held numerous international sports events including multi sport games and has an international airport on the edge of the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Potentially a more troubling scenario is approval by FIFA for Qatar 2022 to be held in the Winter months. If it is held close to the usual dates for the Winter Olympics then it might have a serious impact. if they're shifting it, Qatar 2022 would happen in Nov-Dec 2022 not in February when the 2022 WOG would happen. So there really wouldn't be any conflict. THey would be ten months apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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