markun Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Well, there's also the need to artificially increase a hill near Stockholm for the slalom - also not really tested before, and perhaps even more questionable ecologically. And why have those extra costs if Åre has everything at hand and needs to be used for the other events anyway. Two more events there won't make a big difference at that stage anymore either. Who knows, we might see something different in the final package. I don't think it's an issue in terms of the ecological impact, as I said before, we aren't talking about pristine mountainsides or national parks here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Becuz as if it isn't hard enough transporting able-bodied people in the winter, what more the disabled athletes and ALL their special equipment?? How would that feel on a 7-hour trip vs. a 2-hour ride?? I am sure it would NOT be fun for the handicapped athletes who have to be in their wheelchairs and prostheses for long hours of time. Think about that...Stockholm-Are supporters. 1) Traveling in winter isn't hard. Someday you may grasp this this easy-to-grasp point. 2) You should think of parathletes as "Olympians" rather than as poor handicaped people who can't manage to get from point A to point B. Your post is extrondinarily insulting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorwayOlympics Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Well, there's also the need to artificially increase a hill near Stockholm for the slalom - also not really tested before, and perhaps even more questionable ecologically. And why have those extra costs if Åre has everything at hand and needs to be used for the other events anyway. Two more events there won't make a big difference at that stage anymore either. Btw: Is this the hill Stockholm is planning to use in their bid for Alpine technical events, Halfpipe, Snowboard-cross, Ski-cross, Slopestyle, freestyle skiing (Moguls, Aerials)? Edited November 27, 2013 by NorwayOlympics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Btw: Is this the hill Stockholm is planning to use in their bid for Alpine technical events, Halfpipe, Snowboard-cross, Ski-cross, Slopestyle, freestyle skiing (Moguls, Aerials)? Where is THAT?? Is that in Holland?? ******************************************************************* Does anybody listen to a poster starting with a "Z"? In case s/he/it hasn't noticed -- I don't respond to him/her/it becuz I have that nut on IGNORE!! Maybe someday said thing will understand that concept. Edited November 27, 2013 by baron-pierreIV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markun Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Btw: Is this the hill Stockholm is planning to use in their bid for Alpine technical events, Halfpipe, Snowboard-cross, Ski-cross, Slopestyle, freestyle skiing (Moguls, Aerials)? That's Flottsbro in Huddinge. I will post the full list of venues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markun Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 A - SLALOMB - SNOWBOARD GIANT SLALOMC - SNOWBOARD CROSSD - SKI CROSSE - SLOPESTYLEF - SNOWBOARD SLOPESTYLEG - SKI JUMPINGH - ICE HOCKEYI - SPRINTJ - CROSS COUNTRYK - BIATHLONL & M - SLIDING EVENTSN - FREESTYLEO - SNOWBOARD HALFPIPEP - FREESTYLE ARIALSQ - FREESTYLE HALFPIPER - SNOWBOARD PARALLELL SLALOMS - CURLINGT - FIGURE SKATINGU - SPEED SKATING (OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE)V - SHORT TRACK X - GIANT SLALOMY - SUPER-GZ - DOWNHILLÅ - COMBINEDÄ - POSSIBLE LOCATION FOR MEDIA CENTREÖ - POSSIBLE LOCATION FOR OLYMPIC VILLAGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorwayOlympics Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Could you please present the venue plan through screenshots from Google maps and place pictograms (representing the venues) through powerpoint like the one i made for Oslo?: All you need http://design123.kr/bs/files/attach/images/160986/611/024/vancouver-05.jpg Edited November 27, 2013 by NorwayOlympics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markun Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 I'll see what I can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martijn Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 NorwayOlympics, on 27 Nov 2013 - 4:28 PM, said: Btw: Is this the hill Stockholm is planning to use in their bid for Alpine technical events, Halfpipe, Snowboard-cross, Ski-cross, Slopestyle, freestyle skiing (Moguls, Aerials)? Where is THAT?? Is that in Holland?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Berg_Komt_Er http://www.diebergkomter.nl/ (official webite but only in Dutch) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 NorwayOlympics, on 27 Nov 2013 - 4:28 PM, said: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Berg_Komt_Er http://www.diebergkomter.nl/ (official webite but only in Dutch) Y don't they make it the centerpiece of a theme park -- like Space Mountain, Holland? I mean...might as well get double use out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted November 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Can we get venue capacities please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 I am assuming given the size of Friends Arena it will be partitioned into two halves (much like what Atlanta did with the Georgia Dome in 1996) and you have your two arenas for ice hockey. Somewhat surprised I don't see Hovet Arena listed. I would think you could use that for curling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markun Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Possible venues and capacities Globen 13,850 Hovet (Johanneshovs Ice Arena) 8,300 Annexet 3,500 (concert) Friends Arena – divided in two each 20,000, full capacity 50,000 Tele 2 Arena 30,000 Five investments are necessary; a new track to bobsleigh, luge and skeleton, improve the vertical drop at Flottsbro, a new ski jump, speed skating venue and a cross country venue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munichfan Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Not easy to follow all the discussion on here about Stockholm - it almost lookes like six Stockholm bids for 2022 - isn't it possible for them to offer some special transport services for the Olympics? My idea would be to check in and to then get into the train to the airport, fly to Östersund (it's about 1h 5min to fly), then get into a non-stop train to Are. So all that ticket buying and security controls and stops in between would no longer be an issue. Of course it would be hard to organize, but it might cut travel time between the two cluster to some reasonable two to three hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenadian Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 I think it is inaccurate to call this "two clusters". Cluster means a group of things. But Stockholm's proposal for Are is to serve as one venue for one sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 A mole? A wart? A pimple? A growth?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Why is Stockholm proposing to hold Opening and Closing Ceremonies at the Smaller Tele2 Arena instead of the Larger Friends Arena? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 For starters, tele2 stadium is right near Downtown Stockholm. And second, for the Winter Olympics, you don't need as big of a stadium for the ceremonies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 For starters, tele2 stadium is right near Downtown Stockholm. And second, for the Winter Olympics, you don't need as big of a stadium for the ceremonies. Fisht Olympic Stadium is 47,000 seats - Friends Arena 50,000 not much difference plus Tele2 Arena has blind spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Like I also said, tele2 is closer to Downtown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Like I also said, tele2 is closer to Downtown. Ok fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markun Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Also Friends Arena will be split in two for ice hockey so logistically it might be difficult to host ceremonies there and then change over for the start of the ice hockey competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munichfan Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Ice hockey might just be held at Tele2 Arena instead. It would also be more suitable capacities there than the 2 up to 30,000 seat arenas of Friends Arena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Also Friends Arena will be split in two for ice hockey so logistically it might be difficult to host ceremonies there and then change over for the start of the ice hockey competition. Yeah that is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikarus360 Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 I guess they picked Tele2 Arena for the ceremonies instead of Friends Arena due to it being close to the Hovet and Globen. Friends Arena could be a bit more stunning but it's located much far from the sport venues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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