dave199 57 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Waterfront completion/regeneration of an area, Multiculturalism, solid venue plan/ Biggest booming city in North America. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ofan 696 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Blahblah/ waterfront//blahblah/ multiculturalism//blahblah// CN Tower// blahblah // first Olympics in Ontario//blahblah..... When has the CN Tower or "first games in Ontario" story ever been brought up. Neither of those would be important to a bid lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intoronto 650 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Biggest booming city in North America. Is it really? I didn't know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ofan 696 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Most condo construction in the world lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rols 1902 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Biggest booming city in North America. You want to attract the IOC members and engage their enthusiasm - not bore them to death. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave199 57 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 You want to attract the IOC members and engage their enthusiasm - not bore them to death. It's an exciting city to be in right now with all that's going on and how it's transforming. An Olympics would set an ever lasting legacy on Toronto's downtown core and waterfront community. It would be a mammoth of a transformation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rols 1902 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 That's fine. And I'm sure a games would accelerate that band make it even more exciting. That's what an Olympics would do for Toronto. But what would all that do to enhance the Olympic movement? Sorry to be picky - I do think it's inevitable Toronto will host one day. But none of the pitches cited so far seem like anything that would get the average IOC member excited or spark their imagination or enthusiasm yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walei 17 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Make Toronto seem like a spa treatment equivalent of Olympic Games for the IOC after their years of hard work fighting in the frontiers (Sochi/Rio/PC/Istanbul(best case scenario for Toronto)). I don't mean lavish amenities for the IOC but the technical security of a highly capable bid in a world class city, also a celebration of Olympic Ideals in a living proof of a city where difference race/culture/religion/gender/sexual preference peaceful coexistence is a daily thing. I know, it's THAT cheesy and pandering but Olympic Games and IOC is all about cheese. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
runningrings 678 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Biggest booming city in North America. What does "biggest booming city" even mean? If you mean that Canada's economy is fairing better than its southern neighbour, so by default it largest city comes out on top, then sure. However, such minor, self proclaimed titles Toronto wheels out isn't the kind of stuff the IOC cares too deeply about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FYI 1206 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Blahblah/ waterfront//blahblah/ multiculturalism//blahblah// CN Tower// blahblah // first Olympics in Ontario//blahblah..... Most condo construction in the world lol. Wow, what a compelling argument. Sorry to be picky - I do think it's inevitable Toronto will host one day. But none of the pitches cited so far seem like anything that would get the average IOC member excited or spark their imagination or enthusiasm yet. Why apologize for that. Are they apologizing for being picky about South Africa. Heck, even the IOC doesn't apologize for that, & they're the pickiest of the bunch. What does "biggest booming city" even mean? If you mean that Canada's economy is fairing better than its southern neighbour, so by default it largest city comes out on top, then sure. However, such minor, self proclaimed titles Toronto wheels out isn't the kind of stuff the IOC cares too deeply about. Well, this article suggests that things aren't as rosey as are northern neighbors here like to trumpet about. http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/04/02/and-canadas-stuck/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FYI 1206 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 And while a regeneration of an area might be a compelling argument, the others things like "multi-culturism & sound venue plan doesn't get anyone very far, as Madrid & probably Tokyo, will soon find out. At least on the 'great venue concept' part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Olympic Fan Darcy 323 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 That's fine. And I'm sure a games would accelerate that band make it even more exciting. That's what an Olympics would do for Toronto. But what would all that do to enhance the Olympic movement? Sorry to be picky - I do think it's inevitable Toronto will host one day. But none of the pitches cited so far seem like anything that would get the average IOC member excited or spark their imagination or enthusiasm yet. And yet all Durban has to do is say we are from Africa Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Olympic Fan Darcy 323 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Well, this article suggests that things aren't as rosey as are northern neighbors here like to trumpet about. http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/04/02/and-canadas-stuck/ Wow lol. I sure hope your not picking on Canadas economy. Have you seen USA? Terrible terrible. Leading the world into a global financial crisis. 14 trillion dollars debt. They sure as hell don't deserve it. Plus the whole corruption bidding scandal 2002 I'm sure is still in peoples memories. I'd much rather Canada over greedy USA 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FYI 1206 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 And yet all Durban has to do is say we are from Africa Someone from Brisbane, who would like to see the Olympics there someday, really shouldn't be "picking" on Durban. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave199 57 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 What does "biggest booming city" even mean? If you mean that Canada's economy is fairing better than its southern neighbour, so by default it largest city comes out on top, then sure. However, such minor, self proclaimed titles Toronto wheels out isn't the kind of stuff the IOC cares too deeply about. What I mean is the amount of development, investment, immigration, population growth, business, growing strong economy, festivals, and the city's vibrant and thriving arts scene. I'm not saying that the IOC will care about that but I think Toronto has never been this vibrant and exciting and things are just going to go to the next level within another 10 years and why not include the Olympics as Toronto's party for its considerable growth on the international scene. Toronto in 2000 versus Toronto in 2013. 2000: 2013 (took this pic from monorail's signature) That's my definition of booming. So much is going on and this dramatic change is only within a 13 year period. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FYI 1206 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Wow lol. I sure hope your not picking on Canadas economy. Have you seen USA? Terrible terrible. Leading the world into a global financial crisis. 14 trillion dollars debt. They sure as hell don't deserve it. Plus the whole corruption bidding scandal 2002 I'm sure is still in peoples memories. I'd much rather Canada over greedy USA Well, if the U.S. is "leading the world into a global financial crisis", then I guess according to you, Canada & Australia will soon follow. And get off the corruption thing already, it's old. The Japanese & the Australians also played that way too. It was just unfortunate Salt Lake that got their hand caught in the cookie jar. Yeah, ditto. Brisbane doesn't "deserve" the Olympics, either. Hobart would be better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intoronto 650 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 What does "biggest booming city" even mean? If you mean that Canada's economy is fairing better than its southern neighbour, so by default it largest city comes out on top, then sure. However, such minor, self proclaimed titles Toronto wheels out isn't the kind of stuff the IOC cares too deeply about. I just read most skyscrapers under construction in the world. That would be booming lol idk That's fine. And I'm sure a games would accelerate that band make it even more exciting. That's what an Olympics would do for Toronto. But what would all that do to enhance the Olympic movement? Sorry to be picky - I do think it's inevitable Toronto will host one day. But none of the pitches cited so far seem like anything that would get the average IOC member excited or spark their imagination or enthusiasm yet. Enhance in what way? How did London, Beijing do it? (Idk that's why I am asking). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Olympic Fan Darcy 323 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Someone from Brisbane, who would like to see the Olympics there someday, really shouldn't be "picking" on Durban. Key words are like to. I know its not gonna happen FYI and its also rather irrelevant to this discussion. I would like Africa to have a games but they have much more important things like decreasing crime rates and poverty Well, if the U.S. is "leading the world into a global financial crisis", then I guess according to you, Canada & Australia will soon follow. And get off the corruption thing already, it's old. The Japanese & the Australians also played that way too. It was just unfortunate Salt Lake that got their hand caught in the cookie jar. Yeah, ditto. Brisbane doesn't "deserve" the Olympics, either. Hobart would be better. Why are you continuing to bring up brisbane i know it won't happen when cities like Tokyo and Istanbul are unable to land a games. Seems like its not quite old for some IOC members. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave199 57 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 http://www.today.com/video/today/50337268#50337268 The Yanks are endorsing our city! And the word "boom" was used..lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FYI 1206 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 I would like Africa to have a games but they have much more important things like decreasing crime rates and poverty And Rio doesn't? China is also not free of crime & poverty, but it didn't stop them from spending $60 Billion on their 3-week enormous extravaganza. People always bring up those notions against Africa, but truth is, even without an Olympics there, the goverment wouldn't automatically use that money that they would've used on a Games then put it to use on social issues. It's a noble argument, but it's an oxymoron one at that. On the contrary, an Olympics in South Africa could raise the profile & pride of it's people, much like Lula so vehemently argued for Rio's case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave199 57 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 This video here is a must see. Wow!! The guy that filmed this is very talented. He needs to be hired to create the Toronto 2024 Videos. Doesn't look like the direct video link works.. Visit the link to see what I'm talking about: http://www.blogto.com/city/2012/11/tourism_toronto_hits_it_big_with_new_timelapse_video/ Watch in HD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rols 1902 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 And yet all Durban has to do is say we are from Africa Yep, that's all. I think you underestimate just what an intoxicating brew that would be to the IOC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FYI 1206 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 http://www.today.com/video/today/50337268#50337268 The Yanks are endorsing our city! And the word "boom" was used..lol And yet Nashville & New Orleans were talked about first, whille Toronto was last! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quaker2001 1272 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 And yet all Durban has to do is say we are from Africa That's a more compelling argument than you seem to want to give them credit for. If these bids were about the IOC finding the most technically sound bid in the most economically city they could find without regard to geopolitics, than Toronto probably be at the top of the list. But that's not how it works. The Olympics are about the IOC and furthering their agenda and their vision. These new frontier hosts like Beijing and Rio accomplish that objective for them because it brings their Olympic movement to locations that have never been a part of it before. It's the idea of promoting sport in those countries. If Toronto wants to sell themselves on the idea that their hosting an Olympics will turn summer sports into a big deal in Canada (or at least a bigger deal than they are now), that's what they need to offer to the IOC. Durban, simply being in South Africa, can offer that. And that might be all they need (that plus a halfway decent bid that the IOC can feel comfortable with). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave199 57 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 And yet Nashville & New Orleans were talked about first, whille Toronto was last! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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