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I'm willing to bet that if all goes as expected, the U.S. and Canada beating the living daylights out of everyone else in women's hockey, then the odds grow that women's hockey will be booted out of the Games after 2014, though the IOC has no problem with the Chinese monopoly of table tennis and badminton in the Summer Games.

Which is ridiculous when considering the Winter Olynpics do not have athlete pressures.

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Freestyle qualification rules are ridiculous. The fact that we have to compare moguls, aerials, ski cross, half-pipe and slopestyle and chose between them makes no sense - they are all completely different sports.

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It was done to increase universiality.

It doesn't do that, though. It incentives big freestyle countries to completely drop support for some events (Canada, one of the big traditional power in aerials, is sending one athlete in aerials (out of four that qualified) and at this point developing aerials athletes doesn't make sense because we simply don't have room on the team to send them to the Olympics) and it causes events to not have a full field - in 2010, two freestyle events (men's ski cross and women's aerials) had spots open that could have been filled if the maximum team size matched the maximum number of quotas that can be earned.

Not to mention it makes as much sense as saying Austria can't send a full Cross Country team because their Alpine team is too big. Heck, in most countries Ski Cross doesn't even share a federation with the other freestyle discipline, and in practice aerials & moguls and half-pipe & slopestyle are two completely different sports. It makes no sense at all to tie quotas from one with the other.

The countries that win are countries like Ukraine, China, Belarus, Russia, Australia and Finland - countries that are only strong in one or two freestyle discipline because they don't even need to qualify to send a full team in the one or two events they are good at while also limiting the competition they are getting from Canada and the US.

Its simply not fair that China and Belarus get to send four athletes per event (that they are good at) while Canada can not send more than 2.6 athletes per event. If they are so worried about universality why not limit the field to 3 athletes per event and 30 athletes per team?

Not to mention it also creates stupid situation. How in the world can you compare the performance of a ski cross athlete and of a slopestyle athlete? They are completely different sports that have to be evaluated completely differently, yet those are the kind of impossible decision that this qualification system forces national federations to make.

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Speaking of freestyle. In Vancouver and Torino moguls was one run qualification and one run final. It looks like there is two run qualification and 3 run final.

Also of interest. After passing Switzerland and Sweden in total medals in Vancouver. Canada should pass Austria in total gold medals won and Finland in total medals won by the end of Sochi.

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Speaking of freestyle. In Vancouver and Torino moguls was one run qualification and one run final. It looks like there is two run qualification and 3 run final.

Also of interest. After passing Switzerland and Sweden in total medals in Vancouver. Canada should pass Austria in total gold medals won and Finland in total medals won by the end of Sochi.

oh is it? interesting. if if that's a good or bad thing for Canada lol

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That has to be your 5 or 6th rant about the qualification system since you've been on these boards.

That's because I get really annoyed when a sport has a bad qualification system. Qualifying for the Olympics is a big deal, so the system should be as fair as possible. Figure skating, Freestyle, Snowboarding, Weightlifting, Cycling and Boxing all really need work (Boxing's qualification system for 2012 was a straight up abomination).

oh is it? interesting. if if that's a good or bad thing for Canada lol

Its a format they will also use for Aerials - two qualifications and three finals.

First qualification fills up half the spots in the finals, second qualification is for those that failed to make it in the first qualification. Top X (not sure of the exact number) of the first final make it to the second final, top 6 (in moguls) or top 4 (in aerials) from final 2 make it to final 3. The results of final 3 decide the medals.

Its probably a good thing for Travis Geritt since it makes aerials less predictable. For moguls it doesn't matter that much, the top athletes in that sport are pretty consistent.

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What's wrong with figure skating?

btw can you confirm if the moguls competition format has changed.

I really dislike how the result of a country's top 2 skaters decides if a country has a third skater (or, in some cases, that the results of a country's top skater decides if that country gets a second or third skater). Countries should qualify a third skater on the strength of their third best skater, not on the strength of their two best skaters without regard of the strength of their third skater. I'm also not a big fan of having only two competitions decide who qualifies in a sport as volatile as figure skating, but that isn't such a big deal.

I can confirm that Moguls, Aerials and Snowboardcross all have changed their format. Moguls and Aerials now have two different qualifications and three finals. Snowboardcross now has six boarders per heat, up from four (there are 40 boarders in the men's event, so in the first round they will have 5 instead of 6).

Skiing and snowboarding have different formats for slopestyle and half-pipe. In Snowboarding half-pipe and slopestyle will have a qualification - semi-final - final format (my understanding is that in half-pipe it will be top 6 from Q to F, 7-18 from Q to SF and top 6 form SF to F while in slopestyle it will be top 8 from qualifying to final, everyone that fails to make final to semi-final and top 4 from semi-final to final) while in skiing half-pipe and slopestyle it will simply be top 12 of qualifying makes it to the final.

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Canada's Snowboard team has been announced today. Without a doubt its the strongest snowboard team Canada has ever sent to the Olympics.

Men's Halfpipe

  • Crispin Lipscomb
  • Derek Livingston
  • Brad Martin

Women's Halfpipe

  • Alexandra Duckworth
  • Mercedes Nicoll
  • Katie Tsuyuki

Men's Slopestyle

  • Mark McMorris
  • Maxence Parrot
  • Charles Reid
  • Sebastien Toutant

Women's Slopestyle

  • Jenna Blasman
  • Spencer O'Brien

Men's Snowboardcross

  • Rob Fagan
  • Kevin Hill
  • Jake Holden
  • Chris Robanske

Women's Snowboardcross

  • Dominique Maltais
  • Maëlle Ricker

Men's Parallel Slalom / Parallel Giant Slalom

  • Jasey-Jay Anderson
  • Matthew Morison
  • Micheal Lambert

Women's Parallel Slalom / Parallel Giant Slalom

  • Caroline Calvé
  • Ariane Lavigne
  • Marianne Leeson
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Is it best final run wins, or best combined score from 3 runs?

Third final counts for medals. It isn't best or combined. The first and second finals are de-facto quarterfinals and semifinals.

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Let me understand this better, the first and second finals will narrow down the field further for the third final?

Yes. In aerials there are 25 competitors. The top 6 in qualification 1 qualify for final 1, then the 19 remaining athletes compete in qualification 2. The top 6 of qualification 2 also qualify for final 1. 12 athletes thus qualify for final 1. The top 8 from final 1 qualify for final 2. The top 4 from final 2 qualify for final 3. The results of the jump in final 3 decides places 1-4. Each qualification / final is one jump. Scores do not carry over.

Moguls works the same, just with a different number of athletes. As far as I know the Olympics will be the debut of the 3 finals format for moguls (in world cups they use a 2 finals format), so I'm not clear on the number of athletes that qualify for each finals, though if I had to guess it would be 18/12/6.

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So it promotes consistency over one big trick it would seem.

Do we have any realistic chances at a medal in alpine snowboarding?

Yes. Calve is realistically a threat in both the PGS and the parallel slalom.

Canada didn't have good results on the men's side this year, but I have a hard time counting out Jaysey-Jay entirely even though he is clearly out of form.

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