Texas Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Europe is easily defined anything West of the Urals & North of the Caucasus. So South Asia wouldn't be larger, since Europe is almost twice as large. The Ukraine is (Eastern) Europe, & Azerbaijan is (West) Asia. And yet, Azerbaijan (as well as Georgia, Armenia, Israel and Turkey) is considered as Europe in sports. Plus, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia and Turkey have varying degrees of interest in joining the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Also, lets not forgot that Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Israel and Turkey are also participants in the Eurovision Song Contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Before you ask, no, Canada's not a continent, and no, you can't have 2024 on that basis. Nice try. LOL nope. Its the same distinction between the Americas. There really isn't a clear definition of Europe other then religious and cultural lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Outta all of those, only Turkey has realistic chances of ever joining the E.U. Especially when it's most cultural, important & iconic city, Istanbul, is mainly located on the European side. Not to mention that Turkey is the driving force of the region. The others don't even come close. And even then, the Turks often times meet such great opposition for membership from the likes of Germany & France. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 I find it interesting that Kazakhstan is UEFA in Football and yet in all other sports they are considered Asian. And of course, except for The Vatican and Kosovo, all European countries will be represented at the European Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 I find it interesting that Kazakhstan is UEFA in Football and yet in all other sports they are considered Asian. And of course, except for The Vatican and Kosovo, all European countries will be represented at the European Games. They were apart of the AFC but applied to switch over and it was granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 They were apart of the AFC but applied to switch over and it was granted. But they are not eligible for the European Games correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningrings Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 And yet, Azerbaijan (as well as Georgia, Armenia, Israel and Turkey) is considered as Europe in sports. Plus, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia and Turkey have varying degrees of interest in joining the EU. While I'm a huge supporter of Istanbul 2020, I'd concede that Turkey has a long way to go before it became an appropriate EU member. But even then, this assumes Turkey still wants to join. The current mood in Turkey from what I understand is to treat the EU as cautiously as the EU treats Turkey. Right now, I'd rather be living in western turkey than in neighbouring EU Greece, Romania or Bulgaria. Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, et al. are decades away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markun Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Kosovo may well be there in 2015 as relations are normalised with Serbia allowing them to join international organisations. Europe is not easily defined by any means but by almost any measure these days, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia are in. As it has been noted, all European Olympic committees are eligible and Turkey, Israel, Cyprus and the Caucasus republics are all members. Eurovision participation is based on being part of the European Broadcasting Area which includes North Africa and the eastern Mediterranean (which means Morocco and of course Israel have entered and Tunisia and Lebanon considered it) or membership of the Council of Europe which is how Azerbaijan qualifies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Kosovo may well be there in 2015 as relations are normalised with Serbia allowing them to join international organisations. Europe is not easily defined by any means but by almost any measure these days, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia are in. As it has been noted, all European Olympic committees are eligible and Turkey, Israel, Cyprus and the Caucasus republics are all members. Eurovision participation is based on being part of the European Broadcasting Area which includes North Africa and the eastern Mediterranean (which means Morocco and of course Israel have entered and Tunisia and Lebanon considered it) or membership of the Council of Europe which is how Azerbaijan qualifies. Kosovo does not have an Olympic Committee that's why its a no go. This is why some dependencies like Anguilla compete at the CWG (no relation to the Olympics) and do not that the Pan Am Games (as this is an Olympic event). But they are not eligible for the European Games correct? They are not, as they are apart of the Olympic Council of Asia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galandar Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Well, Azerbaijan is Western Asia, my error. My point stands, I get that there are many culturally European aspects to these countries... but are they Europe? I think that is a stretch, given that even Turkish continental identify is itself polarised. But I accept that for sporting purposes the likes of Azerbaijan, Israel and others are considered "European". Azerbaijan is located on the crossroads of Western Asia and Eastern Europe. Not only in sports but also politically it is connected to Europe as it is a member state in all the major european organizations except EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Kosovo does not have an Olympic Committee that's why its a no go. This is why some dependencies like Anguilla compete at the CWG (no relation to the Olympics) and do not that the Pan Am Games (as this is an Olympic event). They are not, as they are apart of the Olympic Council of Asia. Plus, Anguilla would not be grandfathered in like many of the other territories competing in the Olympics that feature Americans (American Samoa, Guam, Marshall Islands, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands), British (Bermuda, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands), Dutch (Aruba), New Zealand (Cook Islands) and China (Hong Kong) as well as partially recognized entities such as Chinese Tapei and Palestine. Kosovo is not likely to join the Olympic movement, at least not until after South Sudan joins (once they get their Olympic Committee up and running). Kosovo's status in the Olympics will only change if they become independent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markun Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Kosovo is independent and they are recognised by 99 states. Serbia and Kosovo signed an agreement on normalising relations last month and a possible future outcome of this is IOC recognition. So they could be present in Baku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galandar Posted May 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 AIBA confirmed. Box will be represented in Baku 2015. Here is the confirmation letter from AIBA National Gymnastics Arena - Construction update: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galandar Posted May 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Heydar Aliyev International Airport in Baku is expanding with the construction of a new terminal. The gross area: 65 000 sq m Annual capacity: 3 mln passangers Number of check-in: 41 Number of pasport control slots: 52 Number of telescopic gates: 13 Start of construction works: 2011 End of construction works: 2013 AZAL is also actively purchasing new planes. Here are two new Airbus A-340-500 planes recently arrived to Baku http://en.president.az/articles/8017/images Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Europe is easily defined anything West of the Urals & North of the Caucasus. So South Asia wouldn't be larger, since Europe is almost twice as large. The Ukraine is (Eastern) Europe, & Azerbaijan is (West) Asia. That would be the quasi-accepted definition as written by 'European' sources. Otherwise, that whole land mass should actually be Eurasia (if viewed from the west) and Asiarope (if viewed from Vladivostok). This should really make for a great debate. The Euros will demarcate Europe by the Urals but they wont recognize the actual separation of North and South America by a canal, man-made though it may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 I find it interesting that Kazakhstan is UEFA in Football and yet in all other sports they are considered Asian. And of course, except for The Vatican and Kosovo, all European countries will be represented at the European Games. I think political and geographical realities have to alter some things. Israel is grouped with the Euros because of its HOSTILE neighbors who wish nothing but its extinction -- so having Israel compete in 'friendly' matches in its true Asia minor environment is all but UNREALISTIC and insane. New Zealand because its only real rival of any sort in the Oceania grouping is Oz, is, of course, grouped with South American under FIFA. So those certain adjustments have to be made to make things more inclusive and also, saner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 I think political and geographical realities have to alter some things. Israel is grouped with the Euros because of its HOSTILE neighbors who wish nothing but its extinction -- so having Israel compete in 'friendly' matches in its true Asia minor environment is all but UNREALISTIC and insane. New Zealand because its only real rival of any sort in the Oceania grouping is Oz, is, of course, grouped with South American under FIFA. So those certain adjustments have to be made to make things more inclusive and also, saner. Asia not South America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Oceania is not grouped with South America, it changes depending on what FIFA wants... But for the moment, AFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
world atlas Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 What separates Africa from Asia is also a man-made Suez canal ---- New Zealand is a member of the Oceania football Confederation with the other islands in Oceania Oceania have its own confederation and it is not grouped with any other continent Australia was part of this confederation but joined Asia in 2006 if you are talking about FIFA world cup qualification they don't have a direct spot in the world cup and under the current rule the OFC champion should play against one of three (depends on qualification draw) 5th placed team in the AFC qualification 5th placed team in the CONMEBOL qualification 4th placed team in CONCACAF qualification Australia played against CONMEBOL 5th Uruguay for the 2006 world cup New Zealand played against AFC 5th Bahrain for 2010 and will play against Conmebol 5th for 2014 world cup ----- in Volleyball for example Oceania countries is part of the Asian Volleyball Confederation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galandar Posted May 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 Baku Olympic Stadium - Construction update: The recent sattelite photo of Baku Olympic Stadium: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galandar Posted June 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Baku is going to host Islamic Solidarity Games 2017 so ISFS inspected some sport venues of Baku including the construction site of Aquatics Palace: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galandar Posted June 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Construction update of Boxing center: Newly built Cycling park in Baku (though I doubt it will be used for the European games): Some existing sport venues of Baku (Heydar Aliyev sport & concert complex, Palace of hand games etc.) are planned to face major facade reconstruction prior to the European games. Here is a proposal for facade reconstruction of Heydar Aliyev sport & concert complex: Facade now: Facade after reconstruction: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galandar Posted June 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Baku Olympic Stadium as well as some other project in Baku were presented at Caspian Oil & Gas exhibition. The reason was that these projects are being relized on former waste sites and former oil-polluted old industrial areas. Baku Olympic Stadium at Caspian Oil & Gas Exhibition 2013: Construction update: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galandar Posted June 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 National Gymnastics Arena - Construction update: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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