artist1993 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Greece was the host of the very first olympics, but the winter olympics were first held in France. I was thinking of greece hosting the winter olympics. Thessaloniki seems like the best possible city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 What ski resorts are nearby, and how high is their vertical drop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artist1993 Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 http://www.greecelogue.com/skiing-in-greece.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Only if Mt. Olympus is at least 800m high!! In that Balkan region, I think countries like Croatia, Slovenia would have better chances of hosting a WOG because they have the right challenging mountains for it. I believe Greece doesn't have the right kind of Alpine mountains necessary for the downhills and the slaloms. And I've never seen them included in the championship circuits. And figure skating isn't even a big sport there either. But it would be nice to see Spartan formations in an Opening Ceremony and no Dmitris Papaioannou, please!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox334 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Hosting international winter sport events more frequently than never would be a positive step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Probably best they get their finances in order before Greece starts thinking about its next party splurge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 I say no. They have no tradition or wintery feel whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Still, would be nice to see the Olympic flame go to My Olympus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 As Rol's said, Greece's financial situation precludes any bidding for anything for quite some time. They aren't a winter sports power and don't seem to play any role in circuits of the various winter sports. So it doesn't seem likely. That said, I love Greece and would love to go back. As for Baron's comment, I'd pay to see anything Pappaioannou did. I think he's incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_D Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Greece has no interest in winter sports. There is not even on ice rink. Its more possible to be another summer Olympics in Athens in the future rather than winter olympics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 The phrase, "Snowball's chance in Tartarus" seems appropriate here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Athens 2096! Good news to great gandsons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artist1993 Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Greece has no interest in winter sports. There is not even on ice rink. Its more possible to be another summer Olympics in Athens in the future rather than winter olympics Well, I'm sick of the fact that the winter olympics were first held in france, and were never held in greece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_D Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Greece hasnt national federation in winter sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul92 Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Well Athens 2004 was in many ways a failure. Plus the financial 'issues' - I doubt they will host another Summer or Winter games in any of our lifetimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Well, I'm sick of the fact that the winter olympics were first held in france, and were never held in greece. Well, there's a lot that's "unfair" - or at least restrictive - about the Winter Games. There's only a handful of countries around the world that can physically organise them. There's a lot of winter sports powers with far stronger winter sports pedigrees than Greece - think Finland or Sweden - who haven't hosted yet either and may never host because of their geographic challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artist1993 Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Thessaloniki has ski resorts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artist1993 Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 This is a ski resort in greece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 This is a ski resort in greece There's certainly a few, from my check just then. I can't find any details however, if any of them have the all important 800m vertical drop absolutely required by the FIS for any prospective Olympic host. It doesn't look to me like any do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 There's a ski resort in Rhode Island too. I don't see them getting a winter games anytime soon. The entire state has a vertical drop of about 800 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Well Athens 2004 was in many ways a failure. Plus the financial 'issues' - I doubt they will host another Summer or Winter games in any of our lifetimes. What? Here are Athens' weaknesses: Low ticket sales and poor legacy planning. The low ticket sales were largely the fault of the media who insisted Greece wasn't ready and was vulnerable to terrorism. The poor legacy planning was the fault of the bureaucrats who frittered the first 3 years away before Gianna got things back on track. I don't think that justifies saying that Athens "was in many ways a failure." The venues were gorgeous, the transportation outstanding, the organization slick and smooth, the competition superb, the security impressive, but not intrusive, the ceremonies magical, the setting -- the perfect homecoming for the Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_D Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 i agree, ticket sales could go better, after all the prices were from the lowest in history. For example with 10 euro you would be able to see 2 volleyball matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Well, I'm sick of the fact that the winter olympics were first held in france, and were never held in greece. Oh boo-hoo. Since when was Greece a winter nation? They barely coped with winter in ancient Greece; what more in recent times? Also, remember that as early as Paris 1900, figure skating events were planned (at the Palais de Glace), however those did not come to fruition until London 1908. (Again, that Paris-London dichotomy there.) And then hockey events were competed n Antwerp 1920. And while there was talk of setting up the Winter Olympic Games in 1910-21 (interrupted by WW1), the Scandinavians strongly objected because they felt their Nordic Games, held every 4 years since 1901, were threatened. Further, Chamonix 1924 only became the inaugural Winter Olympic Games retroactively. If any nation(s) should feel aggrieved about not having staged the 1st Winter Games, it certainly wouldn't be Greece; it would be either Norway or Sweden; most certainly NOT Hellas! So what are u b*tching about?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul92 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 What? Here are Athens' weaknesses: Low ticket sales and poor legacy planning. The low ticket sales were largely the fault of the media who insisted Greece wasn't ready and was vulnerable to terrorism. The poor legacy planning was the fault of the bureaucrats who frittered the first 3 years away before Gianna got things back on track. I don't think that justifies saying that Athens "was in many ways a failure." The venues were gorgeous, the transportation outstanding, the organization slick and smooth, the competition superb, the security impressive, but not intrusive, the ceremonies magical, the setting -- the perfect homecoming for the Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Well, I'm sick of the fact that the winter olympics were first held in france, and were never held in greece. Are you actually sick of that fact or is that just something that's nice to say on an Internet forum? Greece is not a winter sports nation. Never has been and probably never will be. There are plenty more deserving cities and countries that should get a Winter Olympics before Greece should merit serious consideration. Here are Athens' weaknesses: Low ticket sales and poor legacy planning. The low ticket sales were largely the fault of the media who insisted Greece wasn't ready and was vulnerable to terrorism. The poor legacy planning was the fault of the bureaucrats who frittered the first 3 years away before Gianna got things back on track. I don't think that justifies saying that Athens "was in many ways a failure." The venues were gorgeous, the transportation outstanding, the organization slick and smooth, the competition superb, the security impressive, but not intrusive, the ceremonies magical, the setting -- the perfect homecoming for the Games. "perfect homecoming" probably isn't the way to describe the 2004 Olympics if you're going to put any consideration into the aftermath. It was hardly the sole reason that Greece is in an economic crisis right now, but it certainly didn't help. And if poor legacy planning was a weakness, then yes, that makes the Athens Olympics in many ways a failure. It's all well and good to say it was a magical setting and that the Olympics themselves went off without a hitch. But that would be like saying the 1976 Olympics were great and then ignoring the after-effects it had on the city of Montreal. How are cities like Barcelona and Los Angeles and Sydney doing with their post-Olympic legacy? That has to be a part of the equation when you're measuring the success of an Olympics. In that regard, Athens was far from perfect and I hope for the citizens of the country (of which I know at least a couple), it is not a burden on them for decades to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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