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JMarkSnow2012    354
2 hours ago, stryker said:

So much for the Ceremonies Stadium being a temporary structure. Seems the local government is struggling to find a use for it. All this could've been avoided had Pyeongchang elected to use the ski jump stadium for the ceremonies. Would've saved money. I know there was concerns about clashing with ski jumping practice, but if Lillehammer could make it work, so could Pyeongchang. Another reason why the IOC is struggling to attract contenders for WOGs.

http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/Article.aspx?aid=3036353

The crazy thing is, if they'd made Gangneung the nominal host city, with PyeongChang just a subsidiary mountain cluster, they would not have had to build a ceremonial arena. But then they wouldn't have been able to play media games with the name of the North Korean capital ...

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phandrosis    156
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...the stadium will not have a roof, raising concerns that crowds will have to watch the ceremonies in the cold.

shocker.

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stryker    42

Apparently it's not just the ceremonies stadium with problems. Only three of the Gangneung arenas have planned uses after the Olympics and they are not likely to make a profit. Combine that with the stadium issues and this looks like another Sochi, albeit at a lower cost, but enough to probably swing potential referendums in 2026 candidates to the no column. Seriously, if South Korea wanted the WOGs, why not just bid with Seoul?

http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=3036400&cloc=joongangdaily|home|online

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Ikarus360    457

The post game setting of the Olympic Arena reminds me of how the Albertville Ceremonies Theatre looks today.

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I hope they go with that idea, because who wants a White Elephant standing there without doing anything after the games end

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mr.bernham    363

In all the pictures of the Gangneung olympic park there's a huge track and field stadium already there? Why not have the ceremonies there? Why build a temporary stadium purely for the ceremonies? Waste of money. 

Other than that, it's nice everything is being completed on time. Yes, I'm worried about legacy, but I don't think it will be a huge public thing. Seoul '88 didn't have the best legacy but no one cares. Nothing has gone catastrophic and it doesn't look like the games will be moved so quite frankly the media won't give a damn about legacy. Hell, North Korea might even bomb some of the venues out of existence in a few years too.

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hektor    75

Street view is available in Gangneung and PC alpine area

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stryker    42
18 hours ago, mr.bernham said:

In all the pictures of the Gangneung olympic park there's a huge track and field stadium already there? Why not have the ceremonies there? Why build a temporary stadium purely for the ceremonies? Waste of money. 

Other than that, it's nice everything is being completed on time. Yes, I'm worried about legacy, but I don't think it will be a huge public thing. Seoul '88 didn't have the best legacy but no one cares. Nothing has gone catastrophic and it doesn't look like the games will be moved so quite frankly the media won't give a damn about legacy. Hell, North Korea might even bomb some of the venues out of existence in a few years too.

The landscape is a lot different than it was after Seoul. The WOGs are almost on life support with the amount of animosity since Sochi. If Pyeongchang follows with a ton of white elephants as they are set to do, then it's reasonable to say the 2026 bids from Calgary, Innsbruck, and Sion will all collapse. 

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mr.bernham    363
46 minutes ago, stryker said:

The landscape is a lot different than it was after Seoul. The WOGs are almost on life support with the amount of animosity since Sochi. If Pyeongchang follows with a ton of white elephants as they are set to do, then it's reasonable to say the 2026 bids from Calgary, Innsbruck, and Sion will all collapse. 

If those bid organizers are smart they'd point to the LA and Paris bids to show that you can host an olympics on the cheap. 

God, the IOC really should've voted for Munich.

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stryker    42
9 hours ago, mr.bernham said:

If those bid organizers are smart they'd point to the LA and Paris bids to show that you can host an olympics on the cheap. 

I agree, but the public perception against the Olympics is too strong because of the evidence in the likes of Sochi, Rio, Athens. And I think the opponents of an Olympics in the likes of Calgary, Sion, and Innsbruck would point to the proposed budgets of an Olympic host and then the actual budget. In an era where the public is highly skeptical of public spending, it's hard to see how simply pointing to Paris and LA would be enough to win over public opinion

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LatinXTC    262
On 8/13/2017 at 11:48 AM, mr.bernham said:

God, the IOC really should've voted for Munich.

Oh yea would have been a smart idea, giving the games to a bid where over half of the population of the area for the outdoor events location did not want the games and would fight the government tooth and nail before their land were to be used. Garmisch was a massive question mark for the Munich bid and that led them to their downfall. They have themselves to blame for not doing a better job at convincing the locals to host Olympic events there.

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mr.bernham    363
5 hours ago, LatinXTC said:

Oh yea would have been a smart idea, giving the games to a bid where over half of the population of the area for the outdoor events location did not want the games and would fight the government tooth and nail before their land were to be used. Garmisch was a massive question mark for the Munich bid and that led them to their downfall. They have themselves to blame for not doing a better job at convincing the locals to host Olympic events there.

You're right. I just really wanna see a post Cold War German games. 

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LatinXTC    262
2 hours ago, mr.bernham said:

You're right. I just really wanna see a post Cold War German games. 

As do I, but preferably for a summer games 1st, mainly Berlin. Still think they should aim for the anniversary of the 1st time they hosted.

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