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So now that the Games have concluded, when will the city begin transforming the Olympic Park into legacy mode: taking down the Basketball Arena, reconfiguring the Aquatic Center, deciding on the fate of the Olympic Stadium?

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Word is that some matches for the 2015 Rugby World Cup will be hosted at the Olympic Stadium. Good news - means they are filling up the Stadium's calender.

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Seems like the Olympic Stadium is all but assured to be turned over to West Ham. Have they decided what to do with the Basketball Arena when it's taken down?

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Not as far as I know. The structure is owned by BARR Construction. It was only rented to the ODA for the months of the Games. It's up to BARR what they do with it, not an issue for the Olympic Legacy Boffins.

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Seems like the Olympic Stadium is all but assured to be turned over to West Ham. Have they decided what to do with the Basketball Arena when it's taken down?

Different people have said it will be used for Rio and others said it will go to Glasgow.

So I imagine at least one of those will use it.

So I'm checking out that website for the park and see this picture.

A roller coaster there???

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No reason why not - there's a mini-rollercoaster behind the London Eye at the moment.

The deal with Rio for the basketball arena collapsed,

http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/daily-news/plans-to-re-use-olympic-basketball-arena-in-rio-shelved/8632974.article

And it says in the article:

Ian McKenzie, head of venue development at Glasgow Commonwealth Games 2014, said: ‘We have discussed the possible relocation and reuse of facilities and equipment from London 2012 with LOCOG, the ODA, the GOE and others. While there are opportunities that we are exploring, we have not identified a use for the Basketball Arena and currently it is not in our plans.’

But, as I said above, the arena isn't publically owned so it's not a concern for the Legacy bosses. Though of course it'll be interesting to see where it does end up.

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So what will happen to the footprints of the basketball, BMX, field hockey and water polo (the temporary) venues? Will they just be planted over to become 'natural' parts of the park...as if they were never there?

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So what will happen to the footprints of the basketball, BMX, field hockey and water polo (the temporary) venues? Will they just be planted over to become 'natural' parts of the park...as if they were never there?

Well I know that the BMX track will stay and become part of the 'Velopark' along with the Velodrome. A big new cycling/bmx centre.

I presume field hockey will be part of the park area.

And I've seen more apartment/housing where the water polo arena is.

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As Paul says, the BMX track is staying but they're going to rework it so kids won't break their necks.

The area where the basketball arena is will be the first of five new housing developments around the Park, Chobham Manor

http://www.londonlegacy.co.uk/chobhammanor/

The land where the Water polo arena is will be absorbed into the Marshgate Wharf residential development, and the South Plaza:

http://www.londonlegacy.co.uk/competition/marshgate-wharf/

http://noordinarypark.co.uk/when/complete-development-of-the-south-park-hub-and-south-park-plaz/

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How about an amusement theme park? Shouldn't there be one?

Should there be? This is London, and frankly I was suprised that the previous render included the idea of one.

QEII Olympic Park looks like it will be sensational. What a way to beat the post-Olympic blues by drumming up anticipation of the reopening of the Olympic Park into something new and exciting. Again, well done, London.

I would put London and Munich as the two best Olympic Parks, followed by Barcelona and Sydney in close second.

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How about an amusement theme park? Shouldn't there be one?

Blerh no way.

Tacky and noisy.

I wonder if the rollercoaster in the image will even end up being there - actually being so close to so many homes, I really doubt it.

Guessing they just stuck it there to fill the picture up ...at least I hope.

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A tree-lined promenade, interactive fountain and classic carousel will be part of the new Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park.

Planning permission was unanimously granted last night for a beautiful new plaza in the south of the Park in the area between ArcelorMittal Orbit, the Aquatics Centre and the Stadium.

The South Plaza, the public space at the heart of the South Park, will be a dynamic, landscaped area dedicated to entertainment and cultural activities, offering new experiences for each visit.

During Games-time the South Plaza was occupied by temporary cafes, shops and toilet facilities. These will be removed to leave an 11.3 hectare space, (28 acre) equivalent to 16 football pitches, for the new Plaza.

The plans will see this area transformed into beautiful new parkland – contributing to the Legacy Corporation’s plans to double the open space inside Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park in comparison to Games-time.

More @ http://www.londonlegacy.co.uk/legacy-corporation-given-go-ahead-to-create-london%E2%80%99s-newest-public-space/

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So I take it they're going to turn that big, concrete expanse outside the main stadium, as you come in from Westfields, into Parkland now?

Good! It was about the only part of the park I wasn't so keen on - just thought the big blank expanse was too big and would look too vast and empty when not overwhelmed by crowds. It should bring that area up to the lovely green standard of the rest of the park. Hope I get to visit it again one day in legacy mode.

Just noticed on the concept pics they still have the "wrap" on the stadium - I thought that had gone already?

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Yes, exactly. There's no need for such a huge open concourse anymore. During the Games it was certainly needed.

I'm not quite sure how this area will work if the stadium becomes West Ham's ground though. If most weekends it basically becomes a policed stadium approach it might defeat the point, unless there's some way of getting the crowds in a different way.

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UK launches Olympic legacy push for 36 European and World events

UK Sport has announced a campaign to create an Olympic legacy by bringing 36 World and European championships to the United Kingdom.

The Gold Event Series will use £27m of lottery money over the next six years.

Its aim will be to bring a total of more than 70 sporting events to the UK.

Among the events being targeted are the Hockey World Cup, the Diving World Series, the World Triathlon Series, the World Figure Skating Championships and the Track Cycling World Cup.

London has already won the rights to host the 2017 World Athletics Championships, which are set to be held at the Olympic Stadium.

And on Wednesday, London mayor Boris Johnson submitted a bid to bring the 2017 Paralympic Athletics World Championships to the city.

If the bid is successful, London will become the first city to stage the two world championships side-by-side.

In addition, there are bids in place for the 2016 Track Cycling World Championships and European Swimming Championships.

A bid for football's 2020 European Championships is also a possibility, although there are no plans to apply to host the World Cup.

UK Sport said that 15 of the 70 events being chased have already been confirmed.

Liz Nicholl, UK Sport chief executive, said: "In developing the Gold Event Series, UK Sport is building on the success of London 2012 and supporting the UK's on-going legacy goals.

"The continued hosting of world-class events supports our athletes' performance ambitions, provides a unique platform to inspire participation, and allows sport to contribute towards the economic growth agenda."

The campaign is a partnership between UK Sport and the Department for Culture, Media and Sport.

Hugh Robertson, the Minister for Sport, said: "One of the most important sports legacies of London 2012 is our ability to attract major events in the future - which boost the economy, increase tourism and encourage participation.

"We already have a fantastic eight years of great sport events planned and I want to attract more events in the years ahead."

BBC

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Barr ponders turning Olympic arena into 'Andy Murray' academy

Exclusive: Barr Construction wants to convert its Olympic Basketball Arena into a Scottish tennis centre of excellence following calls for investment in the sport from tennis star Andy Murray.

Olympic gold medal winner and US Open champion Andy Murray said this week that he wanted to see a new national tennis academy built in Scotland in addition to the national centre for tennis based at the University of Stirling.

CN has learned that owner of the basketball arena Barr Construction will hold talks to convert the 12,000 capacity arena into a tennis centre of excellence as one of several options being considered.

Others include converting the arena into a football centre of excellence in east Scotland, or forming part of a new leisure development in the south of England.

The mayors of Rio and London had discussed the arena being moved to Brazil for the 2016 Olympic Games, but the move is now unlikely to materialise, with Barr exploring discussions with several interested bidders in order to avoid the “nightmare” option of scrapping the stadium.
Rio’s interest

Organisers of the Rio games had wanted the capacity of the arena extended from 12,000 to 18,000 seats. Barr were able to add seating grids to extend capacity to 16,000, but those constraints plus high import charges in Brazil look to have scuppered the bid.

Barr Construction visited Rio in January to talk to organisers about the potential to move the arena to the next Olympic Games.

Barr’s managing director Barclay Chalmers told CN: “When we first priced the job we wondered whether its legacy use may be good for Glasgow 2014 but it became clear when the mayors of Rio and London were talking they thought it would be good for Rio.

“We did some work on the arena so we could utilise everything and still comply with building regulations and we managed to increase the capacity to 16,000 but they thought 18,000 was important [in order] to commit.”

Mr Chalmers said that high import duty charges meant that the stadium being bought by Rio would have had a heavy cost, and organisers asked Barr to lease the stadium to them instead.

He said: “That wasn’t an attractive option for us. Between shipping it and having it erected and then after three years having to take it away again wasn’t a commercially viable option. The momentum went and the trail has gone a bit cold but we have had a number of other enquiries on it.”

Mr Chalmers said: “We are keen to move it to its resting place as one, co-ordinated operation. The last thing we want is to have to scrap it – that would be a nightmare. We are in discussions with the legacy bodies who require us to be there in January so if we don’t have a permanent venue we will have to make a decision.”

He added: “Because it has effectively been bought and paid for, there would be a considerable discount on the original price. We would like to resolve it as soon as we can to cut down on transport and storage costs.”

Tennis academy

Among the future options for the arena is, following Andy Murray’s success in winning gold at the Olympics and claiming the US Open this month, turning it into a tennis centre of excellence.

The Olympic champion, and his mother and tennis coach Judy Murray, met with Socttish first minister Alex Salmond on Sunday to discuss the idea of a new tennis academy.

Barr estimates the basketball arena - which is 140 metres long, 96m wide and 33m high - could hold between 15 and 20 tennis courts.

Mr Chalmers said: “There has been a huge increase in interest in tennis thanks to Andy’s wins and that is an avenue we think would be worth re-energising. The tennis options would be an important one to follow-up. Another would be a centre of excellence for football.”

Barr Construction has previously built major sports villages at Stirling and Aberdeen, where Aberdeen football club have trained on the full-size indoor pitch.

Barr has also held talks with a un-named developer about the arena forming a central part of a new sport and leisure development in the south of England.

Though Mr Chalmers would not give the name of the client due to ongoing discussions, he said it represented the “biggest interest” of the viable options for the arena’s future home, though Barr is still seeking offers for the stadium.

Olympic contract

Barr won the £58 million contract to build and own the stadium in July 2009. It rented the venue to the Olympic Delivery Authority for use in the Olympics and Paralympics and will start stripping out the stadium in January.

Mr Chalmers said: “We are keen to move it to its resting place as one, co-ordinated operation. The last thing we want is to have to scrap it – that would be a nightmare. We are in discussions with the legacy bodies who require us to be there in January so if we don’t have a permanent venue we will have to make a decision.”

He added: “Because it has effectively been bought and paid for, there would be a considerable discount on the original price. We would like to resolve it as soon as we can to cut down on transport and storage costs.”

Mr Chalmers added that the arena could still go to Rio if main contractors on the 2016 games were interested in buying the stadium under a form of PFI deal favoured by Brazilian authorities for the 2016 Olympics.

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/\/\ The above again proves that the so-called 'temporary' venues erected for an Olympic Games may not PROVE viable after all is said and done -- which therefore brings us back to the original proposition that a 21st century-Olympic Games is nothing but a hungry, bottomless black hole (and breeder) for white elephants...no matter how good and noble the original intentions were. And that presenting the most lavish and extravagant (if unrealistic) renderings in one's bid is the way to go to win the hearts, minds and hard-ons of the megalomaniac IOC. Just win the vote and who cares if one carries through with promises later on; and taxpayers' concerns be damned.

(I also wonder how the so-called 'recyclable' stadia proposed for Qatar 2022 will pan out. It all looks good on paper but the reality of it is something else. And the big nations like Brazil, Russia, China...to a certain extent Canada and Australia, can absorb all the diversion of resources going into these vanity projects...but organizations like the IOC, FIFA, FINA should also bear a certain amount of responsibility in the demands of their projects, and the gullibility and naivete of smaller but cash-rich states like the Emirate sheikdoms who succumb to their one-time vanity productions. I mean there are millions of people out there still starving, and all these organizations like FIFA and the IOC do, is demand more brick-and-mortar monuments to themselves. Those people CANNOT eat those ridiculous concrete stadia and arenas.) :(

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The above again proves that the so-called 'temporary' venues erected for an Olympic Games may not PROVE viable after all is said and done -- which therefore brings us back to the original proposition that a 21st century-Olympic Games is nothing but a hungry, bottomless black hole (and breeder) for white elephants...no matter how good and noble the original intentions were.

If none of the expressions of interest come to anything, then it could be used in that argument. But reading that article it sounds like a use will be found for it whether it be the tennis acadmey of part of a leisure complex or whatever. Too early to judge in this case.

The ODA, at the very least recognised Stratford wouldn't be needing it and made sure it wasn't the Legacy Company's to deal with after the Games. That was a wise move. We won't have two indoor arenas competing with each other in the Olympic Park and housing will be built on the spot on which the basketball arena sat.

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