Baptista Posted September 15, 2012 Report Posted September 15, 2012 What do you think about this? Could be Shanghai, the next chinese city to host the Summer Olympic Games? And when? 2028, 2032?
intoronto Posted September 15, 2012 Report Posted September 15, 2012 Shanghai sometime after Tokyo hosts
Sir Rols Posted September 15, 2012 Report Posted September 15, 2012 I hope it's Shanghai. It would be obvious and iconic. And it is a cool city. But I also hope it's at least 15-20 years off.
Faster Posted September 15, 2012 Report Posted September 15, 2012 Probably in the '30s. After Japan hosts again but before India.
paul92 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 I don't think we could see another Chinese city before another USA. Not that I want another American city to host it - they have had too many over the years and should have a large wait before the next - for fairness imo.
Baptista Posted September 16, 2012 Author Report Posted September 16, 2012 Probably in the '30s. After Japan hosts again but before India. I agree with you....I can not see India hosting the Games so soon...
Baptista Posted September 16, 2012 Author Report Posted September 16, 2012 I hope it's Shanghai. It would be obvious and iconic. And it is a cool city. But I also hope it's at least 15-20 years off. I´ve never been there, but one day I will!!! Yes, could be the most obvious and iconic choice... and located in a "new" geographical area (East China Sea)
paul92 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 Shangai...it would be nice host Indeed it would. Yet nobody chose it for the Bid Design Competition.
baron-pierreIV Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 First, there's Harbin for 2030 or 2034. Then wait 5 or 6 rounds before it goes back to China. So 2060 or 2064 at the earliest, which puts it 52-56 years after 2008...so in keeping with the 44- to-64 year gaps between the LAs 32 and 84; Australia's 1956-2000 and London's 08-48-2012; and maybe Japan's 1964-2020 turn. I think a Busan will sneak in there in the late 30s and early 40s somehow especially if So. Korea stages an exemplary PyeongChang Games.
intoronto Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 First, there's Harbin for 2030 or 2034. Then wait 5 or 6 rounds before it goes back to China. So 2060 or 2064 at the earliest, which puts it 52-56 years after 2008...so in keeping with the 44- to-64 year gaps between the LAs 32 and 84; Australia's 1956-2000 and London's 08-48-2012; and maybe Japan's 1964-2020 turn. I think a Busan will sneak in there in the late 30s and early 40s somehow especially if So. Korea stages an exemplary PyeongChang Games. I think 2038 is more likely. for the 10 year for the "8" pattern. I guess we will see next year if Tokyo wins (and pattern is off) or if Tokyo loses (pattern survives )
Sir Rols Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 I think China will host summer games much sooner than the 60s. Rogge himself sorta gave them the 20-year wait advice, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them start bidding in earnest again from the 2020s-30s. And I wouldn't be surprised if its summer again before they land a WOGs.
Athensfan Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 Hmmm. I think Baron is right about Harbin coming next. I think Rols is right about China not waiting until the 60's. My guess: Harbin in the 30's. Shanghai in the late 40's.
Crusader Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 Hmmm. I think Baron is right about Harbin coming next. I think Rols is right about China not waiting until the 60's. My guess: Harbin in the 30's. Shanghai in the late 40's. I doubt it will be Harbin due to geography/distance issues. I think it will be either Jilin City/Changchun which held the 2007 Winter Asian Games
Rob2012 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 Hmmm. I think Baron is right about Harbin coming next. I think Rols is right about China not waiting until the 60's. My guess: Harbin in the 30's. Shanghai in the late 40's. That feels about right to me too. The US has been made to wait, and so will China. But both are still superpowers so I doubt either will be waiting too long between hostings. 30 years feels about right.
intoronto Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 @Emre I doubt Hong Kong, because China would likely throw a fit and I believe there is no space to build venues. I think the winter bid should be Changchun too.
baron-pierreIV Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 Changcun? Never heard. Is that like Cancun's sister city? But China's winter athletes train in Harbin; so why shouldn't it be Harbin?
emre Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 winter games before a summer chinese one is possible.
intoronto Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 Changcun? Never heard. Is that like Cancun's sister city? But China's winter athletes train in Harbin; so why shouldn't it be Harbin? Well they hosted the 2007 Games and the resort is closer to them then Harbin's. Also that resort hosts a WC every year building up experience.
Crusader Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 Changcun? Never heard. Is that like Cancun's sister city? But China's winter athletes train in Harbin; so why shouldn't it be Harbin? If you're going to attempt jokes you should try to at least make them funny. Harbin was rejected for the 2012 WYOG with one reason being the mountain resorts being too far away - Yabuli is 240km away from Harbin. Changchun which incidentally hosted the 2007 Winter Asian Games so has more recent experience and has a population of over 7.5million itself so is only slightly smaller than Harbin. Its mountain resorts are only 160km away at Beida Lake, and only 65km from 2007 co-host Jilin City which has itself a population of 4.4m
Faster Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 If Tokyo loses you will see Shanghai bid for 2028. I suspect you will not see another winter bid out of China until they have their second summer Games.
Athensfan Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 See, I think it's unlikely the IOC will give China 2 Asian Summer Games in a row -- especially when Tokyo is such a capable alternative. I think the IOC would prefer Japan 64 Korea 88 China 08 Japan China Korea (Middle East?) China India/Southeast Asia/Middle East?? Also, we should remember that Tokyo was initially hesitant about bidding for 2020 due to geopolitics. Rogge and others egged them on. I think Tokyo has a great shot at winning this.
Rob2012 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 I think someone in-the-know mentioned a while back that the IOC didn't particularly enjoy working with the Chinese organisers who felt they knew best a lot of the time. I can't remembers the specifics, but I'm sure this was mentioned to be the case. I'd imagine of course, that the return to such a huge market will outweigh concerns like that, but still, it might count for something in a tight race.
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