Quaker2001 Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Are there different rules for US bids? And how many temporary/downsized arenas did Vancouver have? You're gonna put Munich up against Burlington and you expect Burlington to win that one? Salt Lake has a metro population of well over a million. Burlington is just over 200,000. So where Salt Lake had a need an use for some of those venues, how's that going to work in Burlington? Again, it's about going up against the competition. You're seriously going to take Burlington over Denver or Reno/Tahoe or maybe even Salt Lake? If those others drop out (and as we know, they've all expressed their interest in the Olympics, something Burlington has not done), and all that's left is Burlington, does that strike you as a Winter Olympic host? It's a little different downsizing 1 or 2 venues than building arenas larger than necessary and downsizing virtually all of them post-Games. It simply doesn't make as much sense as you seem to think it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 So in your expert opinion which is? You continually barrage people with personal insults and attacks... no reason to ever converse with you on your terms. But if you post factually incorrect information, it's worth correcting the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic Fan Darcy Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Except you fail to mention that the Winter Resorts of Vermont - Killington and Stowe - are the largest in the East so clearly if there is going to be a realistic bid from the East USA, Burlington would likely be a strong candidate Now. Name one successful Olympic bid where the recongised 3rd city in that country has won or a city ranked Gamma 2016 Rio - 2nd city after Sao Paolo and former capital - Beta 2012 London - capital and largest city - Alpha+ 2008 Beijing - capital and largest city - Alpha+ 2004 Athens - capital and largest city - Beta 2000 Sydney - largest city - Alpha 1996 Atlanta - Alpha 1992 Barcelona - second city - Alpha 1988 Seoul - largest city and capital - Alpha 1984 Los Angeles - second city - Alpha 1980 Moscow - largest city and capital - Alpha 1976 Montreal - second largest city - Beta How well did the likes of Seville, Manchester etc do? and now smugly draw comparisons with Brisbane I have been taught by other forumers that those ranks do not matter. Why? Frankfurt an alpha city ahead of Berlin and Munich???lol Milan ahead of Rome. New Delhi is an alpha city but no chance they could host a games! Santiago, dublin, Mumbai as well. Brisbane is in the same category as Rio, Calgary, Helsinki, Osaka all world class cities. Not saying brisbane is as good as rio just saying if your discussing categories. At least Brisbane has expressed interest in hosting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic Fan Darcy Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Durban is a gamma - city and cape town is Beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 And only Brisbane is interested in Brisbane hosting. Funny that you say that since the only person who seems to be interested in the prospect of Burlington is Burlacksheep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 You've not corrected me. You simply made a claim without evidence. I corrected you. Killington and Stowe are not the largest ski resorts in the East No 3rd city in a country has ever held the Summer Olympics Munich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 You offered your opinion. That is an opinion without any evidence. I gave the fact - without evidence - that Killington and Stowe are not the two largest ski resorts in the East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic Fan Darcy Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 And only Brisbane is interested in Brisbane hosting. No 3rd city in a country has ever held the Summer Olympics I guess it'll be a good change for Brisbane then I must have missed when Durban or Cape Town held the Olympics and I really missed when South Africa hosted for the first time Um the fact that everyone wants them to host a games 2024, 2028 or 2032... I was wondering why he conveniently stopped at Montreal. Munich is 3rd biggest city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic Fan Darcy Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Oh and Atlanta is the 40th largest US city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 How extraordinarily arrogant - a fact is not a fact if you cannot prove it. Anybody who cared could easily see for themselves that Killington and Stowe are not the two largest ski resorts in the east. But as far as I know, nobody cares by you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic Fan Darcy Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 The US is always an exception with a population of 303 million Atlanta is the 10th largest metropolitan area in the USA Australia has a population of 23 million. Which 3rd cities in countries of this sized population would host the games? Oh my mistake America gets an exception. Pathetic really and arrogant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 In 1972, Munich was the 2nd city in West Germany. Only Hamburg was bigger Berlin was bigger of course. If you honestly believe Berlin was not a city in the Federal Republic of Germany.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 No. Its just that you are full of BS, have been proven wrong and found out I have not been proven wrong. Killington and Stowe are not the two largest ski resorts in the East(Side note... any outsider want to place the under on how many times he denies this. Given the number of posts he made insisting you could run Olympic traffic across Lake Champlain, I'm thinking he could post a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 You make a claim where you provide no evidence, no link, no article. There's no need to post evidence and links that Killington and Stowe are not the two largest ski resorts in the East. They aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Fine, then I'll post some evidence... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_England_ski_areas_by_vertical_drop Killington is #1, Stowe is #4 based on number of trails and lifts. However, looking at the page for Sugarloaf.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugarloaf_%28ski_resort%29 "It is the largest ski resort east of the Mississippi, in terms of number of trails (146), skiable acreage (1,400 acres/570 ha), and snowmaking percentage (95%)" Wikipedia not always being the most reliable source, don't know which of those 2 to believe. Based on vertical drop, Killington is ahead of Sugarloaf and both are well ahead of Stowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Oh my mistake America gets an exception. Pathetic really and arrogant. Darcy, Blacksheep is British. Not American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 See how easy that was Zekekelso? He posted that Killington and Stowe are not the two largest ski resorts in the East. I keep telling you that. Not sure why you keep disagreeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Darcy, Blacksheep is British. Not American. You misread that Athensfan. He meant USA gets an exception to cities that have to be Beta or Alpha to host. === I agree Burlington might not be viable, but is discussing it when there is a low selection of discussions to do a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I agree Burlington might not be viable, but is discussing it when there is a low selection of discussions to do a bad thing? If it's not viable (and obviously that's open to interpretation), then why are we discussing it? And who's to say there's a low selection of discussions, particularly for U.S. Winter Games bids where there are 3 very real candidates out there. Either way, sure we can discuss it, but even if they were interested in the Olympics, they're still way down in the running and the plans that Blacksheep presented don't exactly lead me to believe it's worthwhile even to try. It takes more than a half decent venue plan to land an Olympics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic Fan Darcy Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Or at least some small bit of information regarding a future olympic bid. I think that is the most important part of everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic Fan Darcy Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 No - a FACT USA population 303million Australia population 23million Notice the difference This is completely pointless arguing i need self control to stop. Anytime anyone brings up a valid point you make some excuse such as "Oh America gets an exception". Or simply ignore the valid points and attack something else. Never been to Burlington, never heard of Burlington (why would i it's not even in the top 285 cities in America plus it is in the 3rd smallest state in the country) this does not mean they can't host a games. They could host a games. If they at least expressed some interest in bidding for 2026. I find it funny that you think a Brisbane discussion is stupid when at least we have shown interest but Burlington hasn't. Ok go write some long paragraph in reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 You misread that Athensfan. He meant USA gets an exception to cities that have to be Beta or Alpha to host. Actually, I think you misread the post. Why else would Darcy call Sheep "pathetic and arrogant"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic Fan Darcy Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I did forgot that Sheep was British and thought he was American but i was talking about Sheep being pathetic and arrogant not Americans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic Fan Darcy Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Please engage your brain before commenting Burlington is being offered as a WINTER Olympics candidate - the criteria here are 1) SNOW, 2) MOUNTAIN HEIGHT 3) BEING JUST BIG ENOUGH TO USE 4 OF THE 5 INDOOR ARENAS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE BUILT. You don't need to be a major global city to be a host Brisbane are being consdiered as a SUMMER Olympics Candiate - here the criteria are totally different in that you need to be either a capital city or a global city. Oh and number 6) would be SHOWING AN INTEREST IN BIDDING. Nowhere does it say you have to be a capital city or global city. So because Accra is the capital of Ghana they can host the games ahead of Brisbane? No. You need to have a great city with venues. Atlanta wasn't extremely well known and was the underdog and still won. Brisbane is on the world city scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Please engage your brain before commenting Burlington is being offered as a WINTER Olympics candidate - the criteria here are 1) SNOW, 2) MOUNTAIN HEIGHT 3) BEING JUST BIG ENOUGH TO USE 4 OF THE 5 INDOOR ARENAS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE BUILT. You don't need to be a major global city to be a host Brisbane are being consdiered as a SUMMER Olympics Candiate - here the criteria are totally different in that you need to be either a capital city or a global city. what do you mean by offered??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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