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Honestly, these cauldrons (Sydney, London and Rio de Janeiro) have been the most spectacular, elegant, and full of inspiration. Representing waterfalls, flowers and the sun, elements well represented that we all humans are every day in touch with.

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28 minutes ago, JMarkSnow2012 said:

That documented expenditure was what made me think of a possible late switch to a hire- if Rio's entire ceremonies budget is around US$10 million, as Meirelles seems to be implying from his comments about spending 1/12 of London's OC budget, then $3.2 million is a huge chunk gone. It's probably easier to sell in North America than in Brazil (given that most potential Brazilian purchasers are likely to be in jail within the next few months) :angry:

As for the manufacture outsourcing- that's the way Howe works:

http://www.howeart.net/Ordering.html

 
 

I'm quite familiar with the bidding process (as I sit on our HOA board).  And once you sign contracts, considering the finite time factor involved -- those are pretty much iron-clad.  

Here's the thing.  The stadium piece with the small bowl (as indicated above by Buddy) was made with fiberglass and faux chrome to keep it as light as possible (and was not built for eternity).  That plus the armature plus the smaller bowl were, unless Buddy corrects me, the purview of ShowCanada's job.  

The outdoor one, crafted by Huttinger and I guess a local gas partner, is made of real steel and chrome because it is meant for eternity. So it's understandable that the outdoor set-up could conceivably have cost $2.4 million; and the inside one, I'd guess, seems reasonable in the $750K range.  

I believe the major cutback in the Ceremonial budget was the refusal to add an extra-wide entrance directly in front of the Tribune of Honor in order to hasten the March of the Athletes.  That and probably a few other things caused Ric Birch to walk away.  So they ended up with the marching-in access length-wise rather than a shorter cross-wise axis.  

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2 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Here's the thing.  The stadium piece with the small bowl (as indicated above by Buddy) was made with fiberglass and faux chrome to keep it as light as possible (and was not built for eternity).  That plus the armature plus the smaller bowl were, unless Buddy corrects me, the purview of ShowCanada's job.  

Guys, I will stay away of all political/economical or other unrelated matters. Our focus was to realize this awesome mechanical structure, giving it the best possible look and doing it on time.

One achievement we did was that the structure had to be hanged, resist a certain wind speed (don't recall the number), turn in both directions up to 5 rpm with variable speed control and within an overall dimension from disc to disc of approx 40 feet (12 m). So we had to be creative and use various types of regular materials to keep the weight at around 6000 pounds (2700 kg). And all of this within a normal budget. So no exotic materials here but a mix of steel, aluminum, brass, fiberglass & pvc, which are all durable materials in my book! Look at your car.

You may think it was not built for eternity but it was constructed to be shown in all ceremonies and meet the specifications of the request for proposal. As for the "faux chrome" effect, it's not fake at all and was quite a challenge!

Add to this that you need to ship the equipment and be able to fit it in regular containers... All of this in 2.5 months.

As for the small flame bowl, we were not related to it, only the kinetic structure.

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@Buddy_LeChat  Didn't mean to shortchange the quality of your work.  I just didn't find the right words to compare an all-weather model built to withstand all elements outside for decades vs. a lighter weight model to be hung and used primarily for finite-time show purposes.  

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Its a beautiful thing indeed, but I saw it or something very similar to it ages ago on you tube. It feels too 'off the shelf' for my liking. 

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1 hour ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Indeed, it's not an original design and it has NOTHING to do with the flame.  It's just an extra appendage-ornament beside a flame.  

From various sources around the web:

  • Brazilian officials wanted this cauldron smaller than most, a reminder to reduce global warming caused by fossil fuels and greenhouse gases.
  • Andrucha Waddington, one of the opening ceremony's creative directors, explained that the design (the kinetic structure) reflects the Olympic flame, which only requires a small amount of gas.

So the kinetic structure (aka The Sun) is there to reflect and amplify the cauldron's flame. And I do think it does job if pretty good way. The effect was awesome.

 

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6 hours ago, daveypodmore said:

Its a beautiful thing indeed, but I saw it or something very similar to it ages ago on you tube. It feels too 'off the shelf' for my liking. 

I really don't mind it being off the shelf - I think that fits in very well with the recycle and reuse ecology concept which was a thread throughout the opening ceremony. But I do think it looks like two very seperate things put together - which it is - rather than a pleasing whole. Something less fiddly, like a big half-conical mirror would've reflected the small flame just as well without looking so separate from it.

It's good, but not great imvho.

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3 hours ago, Rob. said:

Something less fiddly, like a big half-conical mirror would've reflected the small flame just as well without looking so separate from it.

Going too far the other way there, I reckon!

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3 minutes ago, Anthony Howe said:

Hey guys. A big thanks for all the very astute and entertaining comments!

Cheers, Anthony

 

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Nice one. Heatherwick never bothered to show up, the arrogant tw@t.

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I really like your work on the Kinetic sculpture for Rio's,Mr. Howe. Thank you for everything. :)

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43 minutes ago, Ikarus360 said:

I really like your work on the Kinetic sculpture for Rio's,Mr. Howe. Thank you for everything. :)

Do I get at least 1% credit? I was the project lead on the engineering and fabrication... :-P

Thumbs up to my buddy Anthony!

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14 hours ago, Anthony Howe said:

Hey guys. A big thanks for all the very astute and entertaining comments!

Cheers, Anthony

 
 

Thanks, Anthony.  Can you give me the really skinny on how the assignment came your way--if there's more than you can share that you didn't already mention in the video?   Of course, please PM me in private.  ;)  Thanks -- and by itself, your work is really quite beautiful!! 

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Haha, amazing how even Baron goes all "Great work, man!" as soon as the designer appears. ;) Great to see a real cauldron designer on this board, Anthony (I assume that your account is authentic)! You just made GamesBids history!

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2 minutes ago, Olympian2004 said:

 Great to see a real cauldron designer on this board, Anthony (I assume that your account is authentic)! You just made GamesBids history!

And you also have the builder... :P

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