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Hey guys. A big thanks for all the very astute and entertaining comments! Cheers, Anthony

verde.c And the other in Maracanã

I don't speak Portuguese, but it's too similar to Spanish. What they basically say is: We are one month to go for the games. The city of Rio due its nature, is an Olympic city by itself. In Lagoa R

What you mean with hard act? (Poor English, I don't know this expression)

"hard act to follow" is an expression that means the performance, show, event or whatever after this one (London) is going to find it difficult to match! :)

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I would bet in London similar thing...

And for the rage of many here, the cauldron will only visible inside the stadium in football matches.

Don't expect much of Engenhão (people now is avoiding to use Havelange and is using the nickname of the Stadium, since it's located in Engenho de Dentro neighbourhood).

They need to finish the second tier behind the goals and the will be not much space to place the cauldron there...

I bet in cauldron only in Maracana... Maybe the tower-thing would work.

I think it's the most likely scenario. Similar to London or maybe on the roof of Maracana stadium. Remember Maracana won't be in the same area as the olympic village, and unfortunately people might have to get used to the idea of cauldrons being inside the stadium.

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"hard act to follow" is an expression that means the performance, show, event or whatever after this one (London) is going to find it difficult to match! :)

Like London had a hard act to follow after Beijing.

The true is that every Olympic is different. China laid its own mark when they hosted, London laid its own mark now and Rio will do the same in 2016. Rio will have its ups and downs but in the end, I'm sure it's gonna be fun and enjoyable party.

I don't think the brazilian organizers have to worry about London too much, they have to make their own Olympics now and hopefully people in the world will enjoy it, if not, I'm sure brazilians will love the experience either way. This is gonna be a south american Olympics, like it or not.

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Like London had a hard act to follow after Beijing.

The true is that every Olympic is different. China laid its own mark when they hosted, London laid its own mark now and Rio will do the same in 2016. Rio will have its ups and downs but in the end, I'm sure it's gonna be fun and enjoyable party.

I don't think the brazilian organizers have to worry about London too much, they have to make their own Olympics now and hopefully people in the world will enjoy it, if not, I'm sure brazilians will love the experience either way. This is gonna be a south american Olympics, like it or not.

Oh yes it will be and I can't wait!

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I'm just wondering if it will make much more sense to have the ceremonies in the althelic and track & field stadium rather the stadium where football matches will be held, so that more people would be able to see the cauldron? Are the organisers doing to do that?

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There won't be any changes.

Ceremonies will take place in Maracana Stadium.

And after London it seems IOC is not give a damn to where cauldron is located...

"hard act to follow" is an expression that means the performance, show, event or whatever after this one (London) is going to find it difficult to match! :)

This kind of comparisions are unfair, indeed, because we have a time span in the middle.

London games are London games, for the good and the evil

Rio games will be Rio games...

;)

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^^I'd say he won't light the cauldron...

I'd rather something a la London, like some kids lighting the cauldron...

If it come traditionalist, at least, hope for some Olympic Athlete. Pele never played in Olympic Games.

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There won't be any changes.

Ceremonies will take place in Maracana Stadium.

And after London it seems IOC is not give a damn to where cauldron is located.

;)

Oh well. Its best to take things in perceptive. The cauldron may be inside again, or on the roof who knows? People are used to see cauldrons on the top of stadiums but I must warn that cauldrons inside stadiums might be more common from now on. It's a matter of wait and see

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Let´s not forget the 2007 PanAm caudron, that stayed on the ground at Maracanã Stadium.

Last year 2011 Military Games, it wasn´t on the top of the Engenhao, but in the same height as the London cauldron

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Let´s not forget the 2007 PanAm caudron, that stayed on the ground at Maracanã Stadium.

Last year 2011 Military Games, it wasn´t on the top of the Engenhao, but in the same height as the London cauldron

But then the cauldron would probably have to make way for football matches. Is the cacapity of Maracana stadium likely to be similar to that of the upcoming world cup in 2014 for the Olympics in 2016? No more and no less seats? I'm just wondering because they could remove some seats to make way for the cauldron?

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But then the cauldron would probably have to make way for football matches. Is the cacapity of Maracana stadium likely to be similar to that of the upcoming world cup in 2014 for the Olympics in 2016? No more and no less seats? I'm just wondering because they could remove some seats to make way for the cauldron?

For World Cup it will be almost 77 thousand seats. I think there is room to reduce some part of the stadium to place the cauldron.

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Again a location for the cauldron is a matter for the Olympics organisers. Maybe they could go for a portable cauldron. Place one at the stadium for the ceremony and transfer it to the althetic stadium? I'm sure it's a requirement that the cauldron must be seen by the people who attend ceremonies.

I'd wager they light one at Havalange at the START of the ceremony, then transport the flame through the streets to light a second cauldron at Maracana at the end.

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I'd wager they light one at Havalange at the START of the ceremony, then transport the flame through the streets to light a second cauldron at Maracana at the end.

Or they could have two cauldrons, one for Havalange and the other at Maracana.

I remember seeing a outdoor cauldron lit with a flame at the sailing venue at the London 2012 games. If it could be done in 2010 winter games and the most recent Olympic games there's no reason why Rio could not do it.

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Stealing this picture from the 2014 World Cup section ;):

maracanastadiumworldcup.png

The roof looks very thin and lightweight. So that doesn't look like a cauldron sitting on the stadium's roof either.

No, I think it's sitting on the roof of an auxiliary building. Look farther to the left, and you will see a similar structure but NOT fully filled it. But again, this is just one rendering...and all the artists, like us, have their own idea of where to throw in the cauldron...w/o knowing the specific, basic ceremonial requirements.

With a full roof a la London; and similar to their sun-cauldron thing for PanAm 2007, I think it's going to be some unfolding thing that'll appear from the stadium floor and then a dupe probably appearing at the Havelange venue as well. It all depends on what Sochi will be doing which is supposedly something spectacular!

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Being otimistic, Maracana will provide us the biggest puzzle ever to discover where the cauldron will be placed...

:rolleyes::P;)

London has cured me of cauldron puzzles. We all scratched our heads for ages and, for me at least, the final result was quite anti-climactic.

I don't see Rio having much option other than a short cauldron inside the stadium.

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I'd say a bit early to claim that. The stadium will be closed in January 2016 to be prepared for all Olympic stuff...

Let's wait'n see.

For now, you are problably right, but who knows what they are thinking to "surprise the world"... or not. ;)

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See as this will be the first Olympics with a separate Ceremony and Track+Field venue - perhaps it could do something completely new... could we see the first athletics stadium since 1924 NOT to be graced by the Olympic flame? Perhaps we might get a bold, internal cauldron within Maracana, that on non-Football days, people could pay access tickets to enter and see?

Who knows? I also have the feeling that if Istanbul gets 2020, they may follow this path too of having a flame-less athletics venue (I'd like to see the cauldron burning bright over the Bosphorus instead).

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For now, you are problably right, but who knows what they are thinking to "surprise the world"... or not. ;)

No; it's something that'll take center stage because that's where everyone is focused. Why would it take place in the bathroom or behind anybody? Vancouver and London showed that it can be cloned and/or moved; and the world didn't end.

So, it'll come out of the ground or slide in from the sides. And that's just for the Ceremony. They won't need it for the football finals; so it won't make another appearance until Closing again. I guessed that it would come out of the center of London's hole; Rio's will most probably will. And again, something easy to fold up and put away for the Paralympics as well.

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