kevzz Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 12 minutes ago, JMarkSnow2012 said: The Olympic flame is in an outdoor cauldron, using a smaller, wind-powered kinetic sculpture as backing, in a very popular site between the Candelaria Church and the waterfront. I'm afraid that's not good enough. It is important for billions of TV audience to see the cauldron than few thousands people downtown. It is the symbol of the Games. The athletics events felt lacking something without the flame. Even though London's cauldron is small at least it is still visible in the stadium. I miss those pre-London giant over the stadium cauldron. Hope Tokyo will bring it back and no more these 'innovative' cauldron ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neneu10 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 1 hour ago, kevzz said: Where is the Olympic flame??? I didn't see the cauldron or any flame in the athletic stadium. Is the cauldron only to make one appearance in the opening ceremony? This is such a break from tradition it's unforgivable. One very big #RIOPROBLEMS. Rio is turning into a real farce. Don't even get my started with all the empty seats, made me super crossed. https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/piraolimpica/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevzz Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Just now, neneu10 said: https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/piraolimpica/ It's all nice and pretty, don't mind having one downtown as long as you have ONE main cauldron in the stadium. Simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) Best rejected concept for the 2016 cauldron.... starting at 2:09! Imagine Gisele and Vanderlie going at it!! Edited August 13, 2016 by baron-pierreIV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Amazing having Mr. Howe and Buddy contribute to the cauldron thread, I appreciate it so much guys. It's so cool to learn a little more about this important part of the Rio project from the the folks who made it happen. Of course we will always pick apart all the details and analyze how the Rio team chose use and display the cauldron(s) but knowing just a bit more about the actual work is fascination and insightful. I wonder how the stadium cauldron will be used in the closing and Paralympic ceremony and where it will ultimately reside after the games? Perhaps a museum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubebox Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Hi there guys. Just came back last night from Rio. Such an incredible experiencie. And for this topic, despite it was insanely crowded, seeing the cauldron and the olympic flame in front of me was such a memorable moment. For me, a simply guy who love sports, this meant so much. It was not a ginormous cauldron, but it was beautiful and inspiring. (and of course I have my picture with the cauldron behind hehehe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarkSnow2012 Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 23 hours ago, kevzz said: It is important for billions of TV audience to see the cauldron than few thousands people downtown. It is the symbol of the Games. The athletics events felt lacking something without the flame. Even though London's cauldron is small at least it is still visible in the stadium. I miss those pre-London giant over the stadium cauldron. Hope Tokyo will bring it back and no more these 'innovative' cauldron ideas. That, however, is not what the IOC's Coordination Commission recommended following their criticism of the London cauldron siting: Quote The cauldron should be placed in a way that allows most visitors and fans to take photos. Nothing about TV there, and Rio obeyed them to the letter. Given that the ceremonial stadium was not the track & field stadium, and given that the T & F stadium is not in the main Olympic Park, Rio probably could not have done anything other than what they have done without ignoring the CoCom recommendation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Anthony Howe Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 It looks as though the "cauldron" has been removed from it's tracks and winched up higher next to the roof line. I like how it looks up there. I have asked Buddy if they ever let it spin. It will be used for the Paraolympics but in what capacity I do not know. I do know they only have twelve hours following a soccer game to get ready for the main closing ceremony. Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarkSnow2012 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 14 hours ago, Anthony Howe said: It looks as though the "cauldron" has been removed from it's tracks and winched up higher next to the roof line. I like how it looks up there. I have asked Buddy if they ever let it spin. It will be used for the Paraolympics but in what capacity I do not know. I do know they only have twelve hours following a soccer game to get ready for the main closing ceremony. Thanks! Except I don't see any bowl of fire on those latest photos. I wonder if they'll add it somehow during the soccer games, or it will just reappear for the closing ceremony, supported on the raised ladder of a fire-truck ? Actually, the whole concept of getting the stadium ready to have its pitch trampled by thousands of feet within 12 hours of the last match is a source of puzzlement (and / or deep concern) in general ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamBlakeUSA Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 7 Days Until The Closing Ceremony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarkSnow2012 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 On 12/08/2016 at 11:25 PM, JMarkSnow2012 said: The Olympic flame is in an outdoor cauldron, using a smaller, wind-powered kinetic sculpture as backing, in a very popular site between the Candelaria Church and the waterfront. In fact, I'd say it's the site described here by Zekekelso: Quote The official live sites are the Olympic Boulevards, including the main one in the renovated port area. Ten to five teen years from now I think those renovations will be the best way to judge the success (or not) if the games from an urban planning standpoint. Much of what feels missing from Olympic Park is in the downtown OB. I suspect there was a change plans after the OP was designed. The great news is all of Rio has acres to the fun. The bad news is Olympic park has vast near-empty spaces. There are 50 food trucks serving everything and anything you could want to eat at the OB. There are a small number of crap food stands (that run out of food, which is their whole point) in Olympic Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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baron-pierreIV Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, neneu10 said: Without the flame, it's no longer a cauldron. But I understand if the stadium is NOT in use, then there's no need for expending the flame. Edited August 14, 2016 by baron-pierreIV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 Here's a snap I took from my seat at the opening ceremony IMG_3030 by salmoneousphotos, on Flickr And one I took from downtown at Olympic Boulevard IMG_3064 by salmoneousphotos, on Flickr I'll put up some more photos from Olympic boulevard on my live member blog thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexjc Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 Pity there is no cauldron in the Athletics stadium. Just feels empty without it...like the seats in the stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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guilherme Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 Is f stupid to put it behind the goal. What a shame to my country This cauldron should be at the olympic stadium (engenhao) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 3 hours ago, neneu10 said: Neneu, are you on the Custodian staff of Maracana?? How come you have access after-hours??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevzz Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 Rio 2016 will be forever remembered as the first and only Olympic Games that dismiss the cauldron. Totally unacceptable. I hope IOC learnt their lesson from this and will not accept any other future attempt to not have cauldron in the athletic stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorchbearerSydney Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 Sad they couldn't move the casuldron sculpture to the Athletics Stadium for the competition....looks lonely over at the Maracanã... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevzz Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 1 minute ago, TorchbearerSydney said: Sad they couldn't move the casuldron sculpture to the Athletics Stadium for the competition....looks lonely over at the Maracanã... Exactly. It's such a waste and I wonder how hard can it be to move the cauldron and the sculpture to the athletic stadium? Just very short sighted of the organiser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 Okay, it is a bit odd that it's now not lit at the Maracana, only for it to be lit again (I assume) for the CC so it can be extinguished again. No reason, surely, they couldn't have had a secondary cauldron at the athletics stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOUIS Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 OK, after Rio and London, the IOC needs to put some ground rules about the flame. Even for the non purists, this is ridiculous... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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