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Not a global sport? It's a huge Commonwealth sport, and in Australia, NZ and a swagger of other C'wealth and non-C'wealth regions like South Africa, HK and parts of Europe is even as popular as Basketball itself. While basketball is bigger due to the American interest, I'd argue Netball reaches as many nations. Should it be an Olympic sport? Depends. It's not as sexy as basketball, and is well served by the Commonwealth Games, but there is no reason why it shouldn't. It is a global sport. I think people confuse "not big in North America" with "it's not global".

I don't necessarily think Netball should be at the Olympic (I think the CWGs is the right fit and right showcase for it), but I agree, I do think many North Americans underestimate its popularity, reach and spread. Just as, conversly, they tend to overestimate baseball's reach.

As for Olympic sports,

I'd like to see Skateboarding, Karate, Polo and Rugby 7's included. (as the latter is in 2016).

Interesting selections. I'd be all for skateboarding (I do like the newer sports like BMX and ski-cross they've been introducing) but probably prefer in-line skating ahead of it.

Sooooo glad that Rugby 7s is in now, it's such a great format tailor made for events like the CWGs and SOGs).

Polo? I won't hold my breath for it to return to the games, but I wouldn't necessarily be against it. Anything with horses in it is good by me!

Karate would be fine, but IMO it would need to replace either Taekwando or Judo.

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Baseball? No thanks. It's a North American centric, team sport. It was only ever included because of LA84 - and its venues have been the most problematic for other host cities since. That was a good e

Wrestling removed? Really? That is ridiculous. It is an ancient Olympic sport. If Karate comes in for 2020, it would have made sense to dump Taekwando. It'll be ridiculous to have both. Still not

Top Ten Countries in the IBAF Men's Rankings: 1. Cuba 2. USA 3. Japan 4. South Korea 5. Taiwan 6. Canada 7. Netherlands 8. Venezuela 9. Italy 10. Australia That doesn't look very North Amer

I think Netball should stay in the CWG. Name one country good in the sport that is not from the Commonwealth? It needs more development and I think its almost impossible a team sport is added before one is dropped. I doubt any team sport is deserving of being dropped at all when compared with netball.

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I think Netball should stay in the CWG. Name one country good in the sport that is not from the Commonwealth? It needs more development and I think its almost impossible a team sport is added before one is dropped. I doubt any team sport is deserving of being dropped at all when compared with netball.

That's what we're saying. It's a domain well served by the Commonwealth Games. You originally said that Netball was "not a global sport". Thats very different.

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Like others I don't exactly think Netball should be an Olympic sport, but it is most certainly global.

Despite the fact that the sport is dominated by Australia and New Zealand, if you looked at the top few in global standings, it does tend to cover the globe.

Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, England, Jamaica. It's a pretty broad covering of Oceania, Europe, Africa and the Americas there.

I think any of those teams could technically beat each other on their day.

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Well, IMO an issue with Netball is that it's, AFAIK, women's only at the highest level. So I think that ought to keep it out of the games.

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Cricket AND baseball, baseball for the Americas/East asia and cricket for the Commonwealth/Nederlands. Plus they could share a stadium if they built it correctly.

For those talking about cricket and netball, I'd like to remember that those disciplines are not even in the list of 2020 sport bids, so they are arguing on a matter that, perhaps, will be discussed for 2024, 2028, 2032....

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Cricket AND baseball, baseball for the Americas/East asia and cricket for the Commonwealth/Nederlands. Plus they could share a stadium if they built it correctly.

I think baseball would be for Netherlands as they are defending world cup champions.

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Would love to see Water Skiing. Made an appearence in 1972 - I wonder why it was abandoned? Would have been amazing on the Thames in 2012.

The inspiring principle of an Olympic Sport says that it would not use engine as the main instrument for the sport performance.

I think water skiing will never get room in OG, the same for wake board too.

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I can't understand the inclusion of Golf. It's always appeared as a sport that smacks of elitism to me.

i agree. i think Olympics dont need more sports but less. A

Also i think BMX racing should be removed (too childish), badminton and Trampoline (too stupid) and canoe slalom. We would have less venues for the countries to construct (canoes slalom's is too expensive) and none will understand the absence of these sports.

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i agree. i think Olympics dont need more sports but less. A

Also i think BMX racing should be removed (too childish), badminton and Trampoline (too stupid) and canoe slalom. We would have less venues for the countries to construct (canoes slalom's is too expensive) and none will understand the absence of these sports.

BMX, I think, was thrown in and stays because the networks like it very much. (Same thing with the winter equivalent.)

Badminton is one of those sports that were allowed in so that Indonesia, Malaysia, Taiwan (the SEA bloc) could have a chance at some golds.

The gymnastics federation got trampoline in because it provides ANOTHER ticketed event for the Org Committee without requiring a separate venue -- just an inexpensive piece of equipment.

Yes, the whitewater rafting venue is a little too extravagant...as is the luge-bobsled track which a state-of-the-art one today costs at least $85 million. And it's all too fast for the cameras to catch anyway...plus the OBS has to set up at least a dozen cameras along the track just to televise the damn thing. I would take luge-bobsled out if I had the power to do so.

Golf was just idiotic to bring in again. Blame Tiger Woods for that. I hope he doesn't medal in Rio!

Trash-talking would require no engines nor a new venue. (It could be held at the Olympic stadium the day before Athletics begin and in the morning of Closing ceremony day!) :lol:

Now hair-pulling/mud-wrestling and waterboarding I don't think would require very expensive venues but would be very exciting to watch!! :lol:

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Badminton is one of those sports that were allowed in so that Indonesia, Malaysia, Taiwan (the SEA bloc) could have a chance at some golds.

Yes, the whitewater rafting venue is a little too extravagant...as is the luge-bobsled track which a state-of-the-art one today costs at least $85 million. And it's all too fast for the cameras to catch anyway...plus the OBS has to set up at least a dozen cameras along the track just to televise the damn thing. I would take luge-bobsled out if I had the power to do so.

Yes but now in badminton and in table tennis only China dominates the golds. They have 8-9 sure gold medals. In badminton also the shuttlecock has such speed that we cant also watch it. I think one of these 2 sports, badminton in my opinion should be excluded.

Canoe slalom, BMX and golf as you said and maybe rugby are only add expenses, i don't think that olympic program gains sth extraordinary with these sports.

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Canoe slalom, BMX and golf as you said and maybe rugby are only add expenses, i don't think that olympic program gains sth extraordinary with these sports.

Canoe slalom is an added expense but it's a fun sport to watch and the venue can be transformed into a real earner post-Games if done right (something a permament weightlifting hall, for example, might struggle with). See London's Lee Valley Centre for example, already reopended and busy...

http://www.visitleev...e-water-centre/

How does Rugby add expense by the way? You need one medium sized stadium for 7s and all Olympic capable cities can muster that up. If anything, Rugby ought to provide extra profit with a large amount of tickets on sale. If it was on the program for 2012, for example, you'd have seen an 80k seat Twickenham being a real money-making-machine for LOCOG.

London's BMX track cost around £1m - dirt cheap, literally! And you hire temporary seating for spectators. Plus for me it's a great inclusion.

The only one of those three that adds substantial expense is canoe slalom, but as I've said if done right it can more than pay for itself in the long-term.

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Canoe slalom is an added expense but it's a fun sport to watch and the venue can be transformed into a real earner post-Games if done right (something a permament weightlifting hall, for example, might struggle with). See London's Lee Valley Centre for example, already reopended and busy...

http://www.visitleev...e-water-centre/

How does Rugby add expense by the way? You need one medium sized stadium for 7s and all Olympic capable cities can muster that up. If anything, Rugby ought to provide extra profit with a large amount of tickets on sale. If it was on the program for 2012, for example, you'd have seen an 80k seat Twickenham being a real money-making-machine for LOCOG.

London's BMX track cost around £1m - dirt cheap, literally! And you hire temporary seating for spectators. Plus for me it's a great inclusion.

The only one of those three that adds substantial expense is canoe slalom, but as I've said if done right it can more than pay for itself in the long-term.

Rugby is not expensive. Just use a football stadium that will not host knockout games and put rugby there.

I think canoe-slalom was up for being dropped And with women wanting flatwater canoe it might be a reality sooner rather then later.

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Canoe slalom is an added expense but it's a fun sport to watch and the venue can be transformed into a real earner post-Games if done right (something a permament weightlifting hall, for example, might struggle with). See London's Lee Valley Centre for example, already reopended and busy...

http://www.visitleev...e-water-centre/

Ditto Sydney - I think our whitewater centre's been the most successful of our 2000 venues post-games. Very popular.

As mentioned, Rugby shouldn't be expensive at all. Even if you don't have a suitable stadium for it existing (which I think most places would anyway), it could be incorporated into the main stadium outside the athetrics period, or at a satellite football venue.

How does Rugby add expense by the way? You need one medium sized stadium for 7s and all Olympic capable cities can muster that up. If anything, Rugby ought to provide extra profit with a large amount of tickets on sale. If it was on the program for 2012, for example, you'd have seen an 80k seat Twickenham being a real money-making-machine for LOCOG.

London's BMX track cost around £1m - dirt cheap, literally! And you hire temporary seating for spectators. Plus for me it's a great inclusion.

The only one of those three that adds substantial expense is canoe slalom, but as I've said if done right it can more than pay for itself in the long-term.

I also agree with Rob with BMX - it's about my favourite new addition of recent years. Such an exciting event to watch. And, in most western countries at least, it's a popular participatory sport for the young-uns - just have to go to my local park any afternoon to see the BMXers having fun - so to me pretty easy to justify giving them facilities if the aim of any games is to get the next generations' bums off sofas and outdoors and active.

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I would add cross country running and cyclo cross to the winter games. To give athletes the chance to win medals in winter- and summergames. Also gives a big boost to the participating countries.

And to give the Dutch an extra gold medal: add korfball to the summergames (Amsterdam 2028) which also gives an extra silver medal to Belgium. Talk about "real" global sports :)

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I would add cross country running and cyclo cross to the winter games. To give athletes the chance to win medals in winter- and summergames. Also gives a big boost to the participating countries.

And to give the Dutch an extra gold medal: add korfball to the summergames (Amsterdam 2028) which also gives an extra silver medal to Belgium. Talk about "real" global sports :)

Cross country running will not happen as the traditional winter sports wouldn;t allow it.

+ the sport has to be practised on snow something the IAAF has not done with the sport.

Baseball Leagues 1st and 3rd Most Attended Sports Leagues in World, Report Says

Professional baseball leagues attracted collectively amongst the highest number of spectators of all professional sports worldwide in 2012, according to a report published by the authoritative website sportingintelligence.com.

Major League Baseball (MLB) in the United States repeats as the most attended sports league in operation, reporting attendance of 74,859,268 fans for its 30 teams during the 2012 season, over 50 million more than any other league.

Japan’s Nippon Professional Baseball League (NPB), whose 12 teams drew in a reported 21,370,226 fans (as indicated in NPB’s report to the International Baseball Federation), was the third most attended sports league in in the world in 2012, finishing behind the National Hockey League (NHL) of 21,470,155 (2011-2012).

The Korea Baseball Organization (KBO) had its fourth consecutive record year since Korea captured the gold medal at the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing. KBO exceeded seven million fans (as reported to the IBAF) for the first time ever, placing the league in the top 20 most successfully attended sports leagues of 2012.

Baseball’s global fan attendance maintained its trend of surpassing the 100 million benchmark.

“The worldwide growth and continued strong consumer interest in baseball are validated in these exceptional numbers,” said Riccardo Fraccari, co-President of the World Baseball Softball Confederation. “We congratulate all our partners in the pro leagues for these outstanding results and for their continual efforts to build and develop the global interest and appeal of baseball.”

“Behind these impressive figures are passionate, motivated fans of all ages, backgrounds and cultures, said Don Porter, co-President of the World Baseball Softball Confederation. “Combined with the worldwide interest in and gender opportunity of softball, our collective fanbase makes for a very strong case for added value to the Olympic Programme and the Olympic Movement overall.”

“With the strong support we have received from the professional leagues and our recent merger with softball, we are more confident than ever that we can add significant appeal, value and visibility to the Olympic Games in key markets where professional baseball leagues are extremely well-positioned and have enormous reach,” said Fraccari.

If only the MLB agreed to play at the Olympics...

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