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But the fact is, you were still building stadiums with weeks to go so you opened yourselves up to criticism.

To have some stadiums being finished at the last minute or people paiting walls in the airports 2 days before the World Cup does not mean thr event would be a fiasco as widely spoken here (and I must give you credit Rob, because since the beginning you were one of the most optimistic about WC in Brazil).

The thing is, in 2 years Rio will be paiting walls and finishing venues days before the Olympic Games and probably we will see it again. Is there any chance at least people in Games Bids learn something about it? Unfortunately (because I'm not proud of that), Brazilians are masters on delivering everything at last minute and organize a huge unforgettable party after this....

And if anything is not ready, there is no people in the world so fast and imaginative to find a solution to get things done "Brazilian way" like us...

Check the Youth Day final day mass.

It was supposed to be held in a huge mass place specific for it. It rained, the place became a sea of mood and they tranfered the mass to Copacabana Beach. After all, the mass happened and the images of 3.5 million praying in the beach was better than the far and boring place expected to host the mass...

Just chill out and enjoy the World Cup guys, it'll be gone before you know it. B)

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The "international" Rio And one of our dangerous neighbors: They are all welcome!

- Did you say fruit, candy or girl?

Subway in Rio with decoration for the World Cup

When did Brazillians become so paranoid?

Brazilians are lazy and disorganized first, than we're naive and paranoid in the end. The cycle restarts on July 14. ;)

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When did Brazillians become so paranoid? I've seen hundreds of comments on games in Brazil, online, in the media, wherever. And literally the only person I remember saying anything negative about Brazil/Brazillians in General was the mayor of Rio.

You should come more often to these foruns... I think you missed a LOT of things. Almost everyday, till the beggining of the competitions, there was someone posting negative "news" here.

Brazilians are lazy and disorganized first, than we're naive and paranoid in the end. The cycle restarts on July 14. ;)

Perfect. It's easy to come here and say that people are being paranoid if you don't follow the debates around here frequently...

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Every Host get's criticism. It comes with the Hosting Rights. Rio 2016 will get criticism and praise, France will probably get criticism and praise for UEFA Euro 2016 Preparations. PyeongChang will get criticism. Russia will. Qatar are already getting criticism. Just deal with it. As Rob said, they were still Building Days before the Fifa World Cup. Most of us here would agree, that the World Cup has been a success on the pitch. That doesn't hide the fact that there were severe delays. There are still delays for Rio 2016, but I'm sure the actual Olympics will be a success on the field/track/pool. Accept criticism. You accept praise, so be willing to accept criticism, as Brazil's preparations were far from perfect. Also, just to note, not everybody who gives criticism to preparations are against the Host Country. You only remember the negatives. Alot of us have also given praise where it's due, aswell as criticism where it's due. You can give your opinion, without throwing accusations of 'They are against our Country'. 'They dislike us'. 'Unfair Criticism'. 'Our preparations are perfect'. 'The Media always lie'. The Media doesn't always lie, but also, the Media doesn't always tell the truth. It's good to see success in the preparations in the end, but it doesn't hide the fact that the preparations were severely delayed.

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It always seems to be a mad dash to the line when it comes to open democratic countries hosting these mega events. Expectations are usually high and more so abnormally high when it comes to an emerging democracy where high scrutiny is to be had.

The only times I've ever noticed the preparations to come in early and usually over delivered, which totally impress the lackies at Fifa or IOC, are the rigid dictatorial administered nations that have everything to prove to justify their way of existence with single minded determination...China, Russia, South Korea (back in 88), Qatar and to and extent, Japan come to mind.

We see everyone else opened up to scrutiny...and fair enough, because usually on opening night all the preperation is gone and as Rob said...No one cares anymore as the spectical of sport gets underway.

Yes it was a near run thing three weeks ago, but Brazil got there didn't they? And now this year's World Cup is already being praised as it's finest edition.

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The ticketing issues he writes about were in large part down to the IOC, IFs and sponsors not taking up allocations, the press were extremely forensic when it came to London 2012 (the G4S story was news headlines for a fortnight) and the worst of them made stories up about our Games too so the accuusation of Brazil being picked on is rubbish. And if he can't get the dates, the replacement host, the stadium London proposed or the reason we gave the 2005 Worlds back to the IAAF correct (hint: it wasn't construction delays as he claims) then I'm not going to take an opinion of his on poorly researched journalism even slightly seriously.

Apart from all that, great article. :wacko::rolleyes:

Mr David Ranc is a prat to be screaming racism based on such flimsy and (almost certainly) deliberately selective evidence.

Next....

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Ticketing issues were in large part down to the IOC, IFs and sponsors not taking up allocations, the press were extremly forensic when it came to London 2012 and the worst of them made stories up about our Games to so the accuusation of Brazil being picked on is rubbish, and if he can't get the dates, the replacement host, the stadium London proposed or the reason we gave the 2005 Worlds back to the IAAF correct there's very little chance he's knowledgable enough to be talking about bad journalism.

Apart from the that, great article. :wacko::rolleyes:

Mr David Ranc is a prat to be screaming racism based on such flimsy and selective evidence.

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Two totally different events! Why are they even being compared?

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Oh No!

Just comming in of the wires...

It looks like one person has been killed...so far.

Hope for the best. :(

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G4S was innocent aswell.

Errr.....no. G4S fucked up on an epic scale, left us out of pocket even with the compensation they paid, and we had to draft in the army to provide security at the last minute. It was a huge cock up on their part and the biggest single organisational failure of the 2012 Games. Luckily, the army did a fantastic job in filling in for that bunch of clowns. The remarkable thing is they went onto win a contract with Glasgow 2014 only a year later! :rolleyes:

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That article is a total false. It's wrong and incorrect. G4S was innocent aswell. London 2012 was well organised.

This completely contradicts your earlier claim that all events have their hiccups. London 2012 did too believe it or not.

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Every Host get's criticism. It comes with the Hosting Rights. Rio 2016 will get criticism and praise, France will probably get criticism and praise for UEFA Euro 2016 Preparations. PyeongChang will get criticism. Russia will. Qatar are already getting criticism. Just deal with it. As Rob said, they were still Building Days before the Fifa World Cup. Most of us here would agree, that the World Cup has been a success on the pitch. That doesn't hide the fact that there were severe delays. There are still delays for Rio 2016, but I'm sure the actual Olympics will be a success on the field/track/pool. Accept criticism. You accept praise, so be willing to accept criticism, as Brazil's preparations were far from perfect. Also, just to note, not everybody who gives criticism to preparations are against the Host Country. You only remember the negatives. Alot of us have also given praise where it's due, aswell as criticism where it's due. You can give your opinion, without throwing accusations of 'They are against our Country'. 'They dislike us'. 'Unfair Criticism'. 'Our preparations are perfect'. 'The Media always lie'. The Media doesn't always lie, but also, the Media doesn't always tell the truth. It's good to see success in the preparations in the end, but it doesn't hide the fact that the preparations were severely delayed.

London 2012 is not an exception btw.

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I'm just saying, LOCOG messed some things up. G4S was innocent.

London 2012's preparations weren't perfect. They were better organised then the Brazil World Cup though.

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That article is a total false. It's wrong and incorrect. G4S was innocent aswell. London 2012 was well organised.

Tony calling an article from International media wrong and incorrect. Now, it started to get interesting.

What a sad development in Belo Horizonte. Just woke up and now read the news.

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Overpass under construction in BH collapses.
An overpass bridge under construction collapsed on Thursday (3) and caused the death of at least two people, according to the Department of Health of the State of Minas Gerais. The Fire Department, however, confirmed only one death so far. At least 19 people were injured, according to the department.
The work is located on Avenida Pedro I in the region of Pampulha in Belo Horizonte, a few miles from the Mineirão Stadium.
Still according to the department, the injured were taken to hospital Risoleta Neves or are being checked by paramedical from SAMU system of Ambulances

They were better organised then the Brazil World Cup though.

Yes, since you attended both events, you clearly can claim that... <_<


Already imagining the kind of headlines the overpass accident will get in the international media...

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Pictures are still comming in...the bus has been pushed back and the front of it totally crushed. Rescue crews look to be communicating to people trapped in cars under the bridge which seems to have a concrete lip edge that has allowed a gap to be created to get heavy lifting gear a foothold to lift the deck up. There are also two large tip trucks caught under it as well. These look to be helping in holding up the deck in their sacrifice...I hope it doesn't get any worse. This overpass was in the throws of construction so lifing equipment is right there.

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Pictures are still comming in...the bus has been pushed back and the front of it totally crushed. Rescue crews look to be communicating to people trapped in cars under the bridge which seems to have a concrete lip edge that has allowed a gap to be created to get heavy lifting gear a foothold to lift the deck up. There are also two large tip trucks caught under it as well. These look to be helping in holding up the deck in their sacrifice...I hope it doesn't get any worse. This overpass was in the throws of construction so lifing equipment is right there.

It's not confirmed any people is under the overpass, Alex.

It seems no people is missing, according to Globo News. Still, Fire Department will cut the concrete to check it out.

The second fatality was confirmed.

The number of injured people now is 22.

Update: One car can be under the overpass. That's why Fire Department is running to cut concrete to check it out.

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Fifa official linked to $100m ticket scandal – police

Police in Rio de Janeiro have said a Fifa official is involved in a US$100m ticket scandal.

Officers have arrested 11 suspected ticket touts as part of an investigation called Operation Jules Rimet, which has tapped the mobile phones of the suspects.

Fabio Barucke, the police investigator in charge of the case, said a Fifa official who was a source of the tickets had access to Fifa offices and stadiums and match tickets.

Some tickets have been re-sold for eight times their face value.

Investigators are planning to meet Fifa and its official ticket agency Match, which sells World Cup hospitality packages.

Fifa's head of media Delia Fischer said it had not received any information from the police identifying the person.

"Maybe it's not from Fifa – it's often easy to come to a conclusion about who is Fifa," she said.

Barucke said the ticketing ring aimed to make up to $US100m, around £60m, by illegally re-selling tickets and that the group had operated at previous World Cups.

The suspected ringleader has been named as Mohamadou Lamine Fofana, an Algerian man who was previously staying at the Copacabana Palace hotel, where all the Fifa top executives are staying.

Barucke believes Fofana was the middleman and that the ticket source was "someone higher up" the chain.

"He [Fofana] has tickets from hospitality, from Match, and he was close friends with someone from Fifa who was in the middle of that negotiation - who was helping out with that negotiation.

"We were able to identify there is the participation of someone from Fifa."

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/04/world-cup-2014-fifa-linked-100m-ticket-scandal

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