WorldCupJoe 16 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 The game goes on! World Cup Soap-opera, chapter #189: The paperwork that almost cancelled a game http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/friendly-between-brazil-and-england-in-rio-cancelled-by-judge-then-reinstated-hours-later/story-e6frfkp9-1226654763064 And about the stadiums, it will be awesome to have one of Brazil's stadiums here in the Netherlands. The most modern and important stadium here is the Amsterdam ArenA, venue for the Europa League final just a couple of weeks ago. It's such an ugly structure.. from the in- and the outside. I'm jealous of Brazil.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bezzi 249 Posted May 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 It's funny. We had envy when the Amsterdam arena was built. Still a fantastic arena, but the beautiful today can be the ugly tomorrow, so I'm proud of what they did with Maracanã and Mineirão. Stadiums 60, 50 years old that have been preserved. They could have done the same with Wembley that had much more history. It looks modern today, but soon will be a common stadium. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WorldCupJoe 16 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 It's funny. We had envy when the Amsterdam arena was built. Still a fantastic arena, but the beautiful today can be the ugly tomorrow, so I'm proud of what they did with Maracanã and Mineirão. Stadiums 60, 50 years old that have been preserved. They could have done the same with Wembley that had much more history. It looks modern today, but soon will be a common stadium. Totally agree on the Wembley thing. I could not believe that they demolished the towers, still don't understand why. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob. 2053 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) What's right for one stadium might not be right for another. Maracana was ripe for redevelopment given that its basically an enormous concrete bowl. Wembley needed a complete rebuild though - it was too small, in a terrible state, and didn't have any facilities to speak of, so razing it to the ground and starting over was the only real option. It's sad in a small way the twin towers went but they were nothing special architecturally, and the room they occupied was needed - it's not like they had unlimited land for the new stadium, it had to fit in the old one's footprint. And the towers would've looked ridiculously tiny next to a modern 90k seat stadium. I'm glad they're gone rather than looking dwarfed and pathetically out of place. The Brazilian and English FAs made the right decisions with respect to their national stadiums. Having gone to the old Wembley, I really don't miss it. Even as a 13 year old I couldn't fit in the seats. Edited May 31, 2013 by RobH 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bezzi 249 Posted May 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I still think they could think of a solution that preserve at least part of the facade. Something that anyone could pass in front and remember what happened there. The old Wembley was beautiful. I just saw the new Luzhniki design and I think they will commit the same crime. The germans preserved their olympiastadions in Berlin and Munich, I hope the russians do the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WorldCupJoe 16 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 You really have a point RobH, but maybe i'm just too much of a romantic. I know they would have looked very tiny (thanks for the visual aid) and architecturally they may have not been very special, but i like nostalgia, history and culture and i still think that features like this can be incorporated into a new stadium in a classy and appropriate way. The rest of Wembley was indeed ready to be demolished. But enough about Wembley.. I'm really happy with the fact that Brazil has these old renovated stadiums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob. 2053 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) I still think they could think of a solution that preserve at least part of the facade. How? Given the footprint of a modern 90k stadium (the towers were where the pitch is now), the constraints of the site, and the fact the stadium bowl needed completely rebuilding, I can't think of any way they could've maintained the façade. I completely understand your and Joe's nostalgia for the old place, but I don't think you're being realistic Bezzi. I think you're being more than little unfair on the architects actually because, whatever you think of the new stadium, knocking down the old one and starting again was not a "crime" but the only realistic option. Anyway, sorry, back on topic... Edited May 31, 2013 by RobH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ofan 696 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Were you looking for something similar to what they did at Barcelona's Olympic stadium. ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bezzi 249 Posted June 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 I don't know what Barcelona hosted before the Olympics. Should not be so important because I only remember this stadium after 92. If they had demolished and built another would make no difference. But Wembley has already hosted the Olympics and World Cup. It was a historic stadium. I disagree when they say their architecture was not relevant. At some time the Colosseum of Rome must have been considered outdated. He should be demolished? I know that the towers would not fit in the project, but I think the new project is that should adapt to the old. But I understand Robh. Keep some old feature would cause some loss. Maracana and Wembley have similar capabilities, but the visibility of the field in the english stadium is much better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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cslopes54 36 Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Wow it's looking beautiful, by far the best external design and surroundings It's it will also light up for the Confederations I'm hoping ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
menegazfelipe 43 Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Indeed. Pernambuco Arena's surroundings are by far the best. I was very disappointed by Mineirão's esplanade; it looked much better on the renders. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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WorldCupJoe 16 Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 I still find that Arena Pernambuco a weird stadium in some way, in a positive way though. Don't know why. It's unusual looking on the outside, but very familiar looking on the inside. Can't put my finger on it. I took me a while to realize that picture is a real image instead of a rendering. Great image.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cslopes54 36 Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Great Video! And I agree on Mineirao above^ along with Castelao I wish there could've been more development and more thought on the area. Perhaps by the World Cup there'll be many events to take place =] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bezzi 249 Posted June 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Half of the stadiums are ready. This is the situation of the other half: Cuiabá Curitiba Manaus Natal Porto Alegre São Paulo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Athensfan 1081 Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 They have got to get a move on. Some of these stadiums look very far from being ready. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cslopes54 36 Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Cuiaba, Manaus , and Natal have already started on the roof structure. Curitiba not so sure, it's been the slowest progression of them all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ikarus360 605 Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Curitiba looks very far from being ready, they better get a move on. Sao Paulo is starting to move faster as for what I can see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bezzi 249 Posted June 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 The stadiums have six months until the deadline (December 2013). Recife's stadium six months ago looked like this: Recife's Cidade da Copa I think all the stadiums are more advanced than Recife six months ago. All except Curitiba completed the structure of the stands and all have started assembling the roofs. I think there's a good margin, some will be completed before december. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Athensfan 1081 Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 The stadiums have six months until the deadline (December 2013). Recife's stadium six months ago looked like this: I think all the stadiums are more advanced than Recife six months ago. All except Curitiba completed the structure of the stands and all have started assembling the roofs. I think there's a good margin, some will be completed before december. But they aren't all moving at the same pace. These are different crews facing different challenges. Just because Recife's crew did it doesn't necessarily guarantee anything for the others. I hope they pull it off, but some are cutting it close. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bezzi 249 Posted June 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 That is why I'm worried about Arena da Baixada. All other stadiums are in the hands of big companies. But most indoor environments in Baixada are ready. It's more an expansion than reconstruction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrCatra 7 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Ok peepz, here comes a shitload of pics from the most beautiful and most modern arena in Brazil, The Corinthians Arena (Corinthians is FIFA's Clubs World Cup current Champion). I got tired of waiting for mr. bezzi and mr. danny, so I decided to post it myself. Drainage system of the field: LED Facade in the East Side: Damn, the forum limits the number of pics we can add. Someone please post here inbetween my future post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cslopes54 36 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Who cares about Corinthians (?) the stadium is looking good though 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrCatra 7 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Test of the LED facade:How it'll look like after done:Works on the West side of the StadiumHow it'll look like: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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