intoronto 650 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Maracana will be ready only 18 days before the competition. What bunch of son of a bitches... US$ 750mn and so delayed... wow... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cslopes54 36 Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Fact is : Maracanã hasn't look different from it's progress pictures at all. This is embarrassing, I'm pretty sure the budget will reach R$1Billion easily, ugly stadium . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WorldCupJoe 16 Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Maracana will be ready only 18 days before the competition. What bunch of son of a bitches... US$ 750mn and so delayed... That's not a good. But on the other hand SAL |..................87%..| BRA |.................84%...| RIO |................80%....| REC |...............77%.....| Salvador and Brasilia are on schedule (right ) and Recife put the pedal to the metal too. 18 days before kick-off is late, but no too late. But is does show bad planning and i hope that that is just restricted to the Maracanã and not to other stadiums and/or infrastructure (although i think isn't) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deawebo 77 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 18 days before the cup?! If you ask me, I think Brasilia should replace Maracana in the Confed Cup... (Of course if its not ready) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DannyelBrazil 703 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 ^^Brasilia is already part of Confederations Cup. Fact is : Maracanã hasn't look different from it's progress pictures at all. This is embarrassing, I'm pretty sure the budget will reach R$1Billion easily, ugly stadium . Fact is not. The new pictures in Skyscrapercity show a working site in real movement. But, we can see you are nof a big fan of Rio, so... Whatever... And the budget already passed US$ 700 mn (R$ 1 bn). Get informed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cslopes54 36 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Well I sure don't like the stadium and that's personal. And I've been trying to get informed about all of them and post, Rio is just not among my interested ones thnx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WorldCupJoe 16 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I saw this article on the Prensa Latina New Agency: ........"According to Emop (Municipal Public Works Company), two workers' strikes, one in August and the other in September, 2001, affected the renovation plan.". A third shift, working at night, was established in July to speed up the project, but delays continued and investment costs skyrocketed.... Are the strikes the only reason for the delay? and when they introduced a third shift, working during the night, how come the delay and investment cost continued to build up? I know labour is expensive but still... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DannyelBrazil 703 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 No, a problem with the roof strucute is the big key for the delay... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrCatra 7 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Maracanã should've closed up way before than it did (they delayed because Rio teams asked). They underestimated the ammount of work that needed to be done. Before they hire a shitload of workers (close to 6000) and added a 3rd shift it was really heavily delayed(I said it wouldn't be ready for the Confed Cup)They even used steel structures in the inferior stands instead of pre-molded concrete structures (not sure that's the correct term in english). It speeds up the process but the cost is quite higher. So after that was done the construction speed increased up by a lot. Maracanã's is a huge site and you could see it changing weekly but then came the big lift of the roof structure and some problem occured (no one mentioned anything officially, but for sure a problem ocurred there) and almost everything stopped because you can only do internal work while the big lift is occurring. So yeh, I'm really surprised Maracanã will only cost 1bn reais Really. They added like 4000 more workers and added a third shift (and the cost of a night shift is big), used steel structures instead of concrete and all that **** and the cost didn't increase that much IMHO. The problem, as I said above, was that the local government is very populist and since local teams were doing well and wanted maracanã opened they kept delaying the start of the work because they underestimated how big maracana's refurbishment would be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DannyelBrazil 703 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 ^^Totally correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WorldCupJoe 16 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Never knew that the teams have so much influence and that they kept the stadium open because the teams wanted to. Why didn't the FIFA put pressure on the teams to play somewhere else? "They underestimated the ammount of work that needed to be done". - Which also includes the fact that they didn't know about the bad condition of the roof in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Victor Mata 272 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 It's because of the "temple-like aura" of the stadium and this obsession of Maracanã being the centrepiece of everything. The decision to keep it open was very criticised mainly in social media. The press didn't make the necessary fuss then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cslopes54 36 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 We all know that Mineirao was "completed" but I'm not really sure about the quality of the works =\ these are pics from a reporter that visited the the stadium http://kikacastro.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/os-varios-problemas-que-ficaram-no-novo-mineirao/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cslopes54 36 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Hopefully they've been fixed, this was taken at the opening day Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deawebo 77 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 The opening day was very precipitated (same for Castelao), however the stadium is looking great and final touches are going on... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bezzi 249 Posted January 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Belo Horizonte Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bezzi 249 Posted January 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Brasilia Cuiabá Curitiba Fortaleza Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bezzi 249 Posted January 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Manaus Natal Porto Alegre Recife Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bezzi 249 Posted January 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Salvador São Paulo Rio Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WorldCupJoe 16 Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Thanks for the updates Bezzi. What is the point of the open space in Salvador by the way? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bezzi 249 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 To refer to the old stadium. The purpose of the open space was to keep the lake view. Anyway this space will be closed with temporary seats during world cup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bezzi 249 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Castelao Stadium in Fortaleza will host the first match today! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DannyelBrazil 703 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Some footage from the first 2 matches held today in Arena Castelao. It made me pretty happy to see a Brazilian regional cup match being held in World Cup class stadium. Historic moment to me. It was like to be watching an European match! First goal scored in new Castelao Kleberson from EC Bahia Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bezzi 249 Posted February 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Brasilia Belo Horizonte (inaugurated) Cuiaba Curitiba Fortaleza (inaugurated) Natal Manaus Porto Alegre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bezzi 249 Posted February 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Recife Rio de Janeiro São Paulo Salvador (next to be inaugurated) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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