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Thanks Hawk for this. Looks like the flame is on the stadium roof in this photo.

Definitely looks flame-like.

BBC News (May be the same feed as World News) has the stadium behind the presenter - no sign of a flame. Just lots of flashing lights. Exciting!

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I love the idea of the Orbit skylight so people can see it from below. + I like the idea of the Orbit being the couldron anyway (see my London's Eiffel Tower jargon back a few pages).

And like AustralianFan I was looking at the light on the Orbit the first time I watched the video - though on the second time watching the flame in the stadium looks big.

So - maybe it is on the stadium and moves to the Orbit - or both.

If it was to move then perhaps that little cloud I mentioned or a laser would transport it.

The only thing that kills this theory is that there was all the ugly services (air con etc) on the roof of the orbit observation deck. Unless this has been covered and prettified, it would seem a bit ugly in aerial shots.

Thanks Hawk for this. Looks like the flame is on the stadium roof in this photo.

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either that or it is going up the orbit inside the roller coaster track ala salt lake style. but definately more likely just in the stadium.

It would be amazing, if not impossible if the loop of the orbit pushed high pressure gas into the 'gap in the loop' between the observation deck and top of the orbit making a self suspending flame in the middle. (not much design work for heatherwick though and way too eye of sauron like).

Sorry guys its all too close, im getting giddy and ridiculous.

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Ok so doing my evening scan (I am on the west coast of the US) I would like to say:

1, the salt lake city cauldron was simply mOved from the rim of the stadium to right next to the stadium. I saw it about a month ago.

2, in the video, the light seen on the orbit is probably one of those red lights for airplanes.

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As for the idea that it would be floating in the middle (aside from how the gas would get there). Would the javelins have a change of hitting it. Not really sure how high they go.

And if the cauldron was on the ground it would be in the way for where the javelins and shot put (and others) would land surely?

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Cauldron's Flame To Be Seen Across Olympic Park

So the Cauldron and it's flame will be seen by those outside, as well as most of the audience inside London's Olympic Stadium.

Now that we have seen, across Olympic Park, the distant video and still images of the Cauldron being tested in the early hours of Friday morning London time, this finally puts to rest that earlier incorrect and alleged ATR report written by an "unknown" person wrongly alleging a senior and widely respected IOC Member had released information about the Cauldron, including that it would only be "seen by those inside the Stadium."

That IOC Member's integrity and reputation rightly remains intact.

It should be noted that it appears not who posted this false report in this thread is at fault, but whoeover made up the original story.

Enjoy the Games guys, wherever you are !

I suppose it's possible that you are right (which means either Oswald or ATR lied), but I don't think we can be sure that any of those pictures show the cauldron. They are all blurry and taken from a great distance. Those lights could be something else. I really don't think anything has been "proved."

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And then peyong yang (dont hold me to spelling) in 2018

And what's in Nanjing?

The 2nd Summer YOGs.

And after 224 pages, we are NO CLOSER to finding where the cauldron is because there ISN'T going to be an outside cauldron not unless they piggyback onto the Orbital.

The big thing "from the center of the stadium" would be something right out of the center spot. That is the geographic center of the stadium. How can Heatherwick design 'something" that's sitting in midair...when there's NOTHING there. Whatever he designed, will rise from the hole and, I guess ascend higher than I anticipated and spit out high flames I guess, obviously NOT incinerating the overhead cables.

But I think less is more rather than a huge fireball.

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Okay, so here is the deal. We all have clues, but nothing concrete. Mad props LOCOG!!! But my theory at this late time is Heatherwick designed a great cauldron that will emerge from the center of the stadium and rise to be a suspended cauldron in the center of the stadium. The problem is that we all refuse to believe anything. We need concrete belief. What made Sydney spectacular is that firr came from water and a cauldron emerged that no one had ever seen. Imagine, just imagine, LOCOG has mad the "impossible" possible. Maybe just maybe Thomas Heather wick gave us art and LOCOG gave us innovation. I have been under a Cauldron before at the USOC Hall of Fame in Colorado Springs and it's awesome to see the underside of the flame. Maybe...just maybe we will see the first cauldron that is above all in the stadium during the games, because we all fuel the Olympic Flame. Athens gave us the flame in the closing ceremony, Maybe London will have us "fuel" it. LOCOG and Seb Coe have redefined how the Olympic movement will move into the modern generation. So it's roughly sunrise in London as I type this and first of all, to all of you that "saved the surprise" you have truly been a "brit" keeping calm and carrying on. I hate and love you all (y'all as we say in America) for keeping the secret. Barcelona created awe, Sydney amazement, London I have high hopes for you. So I log out because NBC sucks and I cannot see it live and I hope that when I come back, I figured it out. If not, I look forward to speculating with you about Sochi. Thats why they call it the Olympic Movement, it keeps moving. Citius-Altius-Fortius

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Baron please be a little more mature

Yeah, I know. We have to treat this subject with total seriousness and reverence. :rolleyes:

Get real, wilya. It's just a friggin' cauldron.

Obviously a few more of you have not yet even viewed the big video posted by jkboy92 which shows the flame of the Cauldron clearly pop up during the Cauldron lighting rehearsal.

I saw the flames. It looks like it emanates from the geographic center of the stadium; therefore, it would have to come from that hole in the ground.

Do you have any other plausible scenario as to how they might achieve that effect?

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what I found out interesting about the video at 0.08 seconds, is the cauldron is in place before it actually lights... so there goes the final torch bearer tilting the torch into the cauldron and it rising up already lit.... unless they do the cliche big steps rising so he/she can run up to that great height and light it... Atlanta already did the fireball on a string, Barcelona with the arrow... how else can they light it being so high?

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what I found out interesting about the video at 0.08 seconds, is the cauldron is in place before it actually lights... so there goes the final torch bearer tilting the torch into the cauldron and it rising up already lit.... unless they do the cliche big steps rising so he/she can run up to that great height and light it... Atlanta already did the fireball on a string, Barcelona with the arrow... how else can they light it being so high?

great question - it would be fantstic if they could create a flaming cyclone of gas that spins the flame upwards.

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