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My theory on the tree/roots: I think perhaps this is where the torch will ENTER the stadium- the tree will lift up and the first torchbearer will rise out of the hole below? Just an idea! :)

Great idea Pianoman. It would look good to have a torchbearer rise up from under the tree, something which hasn't been done since a similar entry of the torch in Atlanta which we remember was carried through tunnels and then emerged with great effect up onto the central arena stage.

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I think that gap is further round, closer to what people have identified as the VIP area.

Actually that gap in the wrap is in a typical Cauldron position where the VIPs look to their left (not straining) along the 100m straight to see it. As we know this has occurred in several Games.

It is at the apex of the waterways and would appear to be close enough it seems to the northern area outside the stadium where the gaslines were planned to be laid.

Keep an eye on the gap i guess ....

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Another very revealing vid of 15 minutes of the rehearsals. This time from the opening segment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C9jsCn6Mlo&feature=plcp

Like I said before, watch it/save it before its taken down.

In this vid you can see the whole sequence of the transformation of the stage.

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You don't have to be a member of a generation to inspire it. In fact, it's more likely that the inspiration will come from an older generation.

I agree. The field is wide open for the final torchbearer/s, from Daley to Bannister, although these days the Cauldron lighter has to be nimble to negotiate the sometimes tricky/aerial lighting sequences.

Thats why I don't think we will see Her Majesty flying through the air to light the Cauldron somehow, even though she is having a big year.

The 1964 Downhill Olympic Champion, Egon Zimmerman, lights one of

three Cauldrons at the 2012 Innsbruck Winter Youth Olympic Games.

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Actually that gap in the wrap is in a typical Cauldron position where the VIPs look to their left (not straining) along the 100m straight to see it. As we know this has occurred in several Games.

It is at the apex of the waterways and would appear to be close enough it seems to the northern area outside the stadium where the gaslines were planned to be laid.

Keep an eye on the gap i guess ....

Now you've confused me. In thepianoman's picture, the gap is at the far right of the stadium:

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You're correct- a bit difficult to see in this shot, but it's there!

I think that would be almost behind anyone sitting facing the 100m finish. I'm sticking with my original interpretation of it being by the VIP enclosure/hospitality area outside the stadium. The 'white dome' and black structure, which isn't shown in this link, is almost behind the 100m start: http://wellingtonhousebcn.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/london-olympic-stadium-2012.jpg

Having said that, I've just seen something on BBC news that makes me wonder if the cauldron could be north east of the stadium. The news was being broadcast from the studio overlooking the Orbit. Towards the right hand edge of the screen I briefly saw a yellow flash lasting a second or two (not a beacon on a vehicle). I rewound the clip and saw a column light up (from ground upwards) and then a flame yellow light on top. It could just be a sculpture I suppose as I hav to say the yellow light didn't look very flame like. I'll try taking a few pictures but don't know how to post them.

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Now you've confused me. In thepianoman's picture, the gap is at the far right of the stadium:

Yes, that gap is at the far right of the Stadium in this photo which is the Northern end of the Stadium :) .

To assist in orientating you, I've attached 2 earlier photos:

  • the Orbit sits directly opposite to the VIPs along the 100m straight on the opposite side of the Stadium who would look ahead to see the Orbit (which we know now not to the Cauldron location but just mentioned here for orientation purposes),
  • the VIPs look left along the 100m straight to see the Northern end of the Stadium at the apex of the waterways,
  • the VIPs also look to the left to that same end which is where the Tree and Tor is and the gap in the wrap is outside at that very same Northern end.

Don't worry, it took me a while to orientate myself earlier in the thread with all these photos from my loungeroom in Melbourne .

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I'll try taking a few pictures but don't know how to post them.

Thats something I had to learn as well.

  1. You have to join a photo sharing website for example Photobucket.com - free to join.
  2. Then upload the photos you want onto your photobucket galley.
  3. Then once uploaded and you have continued to the gallery, put your mouse over "Direct Link' under the photo of your choice and this automatically copies the link to your photo,
  4. Then go to your post in gamesbids.com and click on that green picture icon just above and right click and paste the photo link in that window.
  5. Press OK and your photo should then appear in your post.

Hope this helps.

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Oh, just to add (in case it turns out to be connected and then I can say 'I told you so') while walking around the stadium on Monday (on the stadium island) I noticed this weird little steam train thing kinda covered up next to the stadium.

Well it wasn't quite a train - but looked close to it. Bit odd.

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I've been watching the webcam on and off over the past two hours. I haven't seen anything of note, sadly. It would make perfect sense to be lighting it up around 4am, three days out. We might have to wait for 48 hours from now, like we did with Sydney.

Still find it absolutely incredible that no one has the slightest idea, outside those who know what it will be.

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Looking back at the Beijing cauldron thread, someone posted images of that cauldron being tested in the early morning hours of August 5th. That Ceremony was of course three days later on the 8th........

*Correction. It was the 6th, Beijing time. You can see that thread here:

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I still am adamant the Orbit isn't the cauldron - but some aren't believing Mittal.

http://www.aikenstandard.com/story/OLY--Olympic-Tower-0960

But has the public just not seen its true purpose?

It seems perfect to hold the Olympic cauldron.

Mittal, whose company donated the steel and is funding most of the $36.5 million project, maintains there is no place for the ceremonial flame atop the tower.

But The Associated Press was told it could not access the looping structure this week because games organizers are preparing it for Friday's opening ceremony and are trying to keep parts hidden from the public.

"It's strange if there are no ties to the Olympic cauldron, to make sure when the flame was lit for the entirety it could be seen all around from an open area," Anna-Maria Sponaski, a native of Vancouver, British Columbia, said Tuesday as she peered up at the tower.

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I so strongly want to throw in the towel and just wait it out, but alas...I CANNOT!!! I am trying, but Friday cannot come soon enough, and because I am in America and NBC is not showing the ceremony live, everyone else in the world will know before me. I am literally disconnecting myself from the grid during the ceremonies so I can enjoy them as they should be. Alright, I get it...save the surprise. So here are my theories in no particular order. I just gotta get em out into the world. I'll wait until the big moment to find out.

That damn orbit, despite it all, it could be the placeholder and I know that its far off and I hope it does not. Let's hope it's closed because they are rigging it with fireworks, lasers and other ceremony related stuff.

The cauldron will rise from somewhere in the stadium and be lifted after lighting into place somew

here on a support near the rim of the stadium.

The cauldron has been installed as a hydraulic lifting tower and is under one of those white domes around the stadium that all but one are decoys meant to appear early in the construction to hide the cauldron.

I swear if the cauldron appears via a laser ignition on the shard after a smaller stadium cauldron is lit, I am gunna be very unhappy.

Either way, I have a huge respect for LOCOG an all of people there in London that are keeping this a secret. I love and hate you all for saving the surprise. I hope you inspire a generation and give me cold chills in this the start of a history making games!!!

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With this video , besides the other one that was published yesterday, together are 30 minutes out of 1 hour, so I have watched half of the ceremony 3 days before. First time that happened this. According to what I have seen so far I can asure London won't top Beijing...

:(:wacko:

What about Rio 4 years time???

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I so strongly want to throw in the towel and just wait it out, but alas...I CANNOT!!! I am trying, but Friday cannot come soon enough, and because I am in America and NBC is not showing the ceremony live, everyone else in the world will know before me. I am literally disconnecting myself from the grid during the ceremonies so I can enjoy them as they should be. Alright, I get it...save the surprise. So here are my theories in no particular order. I just gotta get em out into the world. I'll wait until the big moment to find out.

That damn orbit, despite it all, it could be the placeholder and I know that its far off and I hope it does not. Let's hope it's closed because they are rigging it with fireworks, lasers and other ceremony related stuff.

The cauldron will rise from somewhere in the stadium and be lifted after lighting into place somew

here on a support near the rim of the stadium.

The cauldron has been installed as a hydraulic lifting tower and is under one of those white domes around the stadium that all but one are decoys meant to appear early in the construction to hide the cauldron.

I swear if the cauldron appears via a laser ignition on the shard after a smaller stadium cauldron is lit, I am gunna be very unhappy.

Either way, I have a huge respect for LOCOG an all of people there in London that are keeping this a secret. I love and hate you all for saving the surprise. I hope you inspire a generation and give me cold chills in this the start of a history making games!!!

So what channel is broadcasting the games in America?

With this video , besides the other one that was published yesterday, together are 30 minutes out of 1 hour, so I have watched half of the ceremony 3 days before. First time that happened this. According to what I have seen so far I can asure London won't top Beijing...

:(:wacko:

What about Rio 4 years time???

Of course they won't! Beijing's budget was £200 million, ours is £27 million (i think) you can't replicate a ceremony of that brilliance with so little money in comparison! The opening ceremony I believe will be amazing though, we always put on a good show.

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Having said that, I've just seen something on BBC news that makes me wonder if the cauldron could be north east of the stadium. The news was being broadcast from the studio overlooking the Orbit. Towards the right hand edge of the screen I briefly saw a yellow flash lasting a second or two (not a beacon on a vehicle).

There are a couple of very tall zebra crossing type lights outside the stadium so was probably one of those.

Yes, that gap is at the far right of the Stadium in this photo which is the Northern end of the Stadium :) .

Sorry Australianfan, it's not. That gap is the VIP section. The back of the Tor has the wrap for sure - I've walked through it; it's at 149/150. The VIP non-wrap starts at about section 104 - they'd be cricking their necks round to 7 o'clock to see anything in that direction.

With this video , besides the other one that was published yesterday, together are 30 minutes out of 1 hour, so I have watched half of the ceremony 3 days before. First time that happened this. According to what I have seen so far I can asure London won't top Beijing...

:(:wacko:

Based on two shaky videos that don't show everything that's going on? There's a reason that the one showing the transformation are category D seats on the night. :ph34r:

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quote from ATR

Around the Rings is told by sources familiar with the situation that the decision not to construct a cauldron visible throughout the Olympic Park was influenced by plans to reconfigure the stadium after the Games to a smaller capacity, as well as budgetary.

IOC coordination commission chair Denis Oswald tells ATR there definitely is a cauldron, but confirms it will only be visible within the Olympic Stadium.

The absence of a cauldron visible from outside the stadium is a first for the Summer Games of the recent era

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ATR

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Just seen some latest pictures, theres something being buil to the South of the stadium near the orbit! Any ideas?

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Where?

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Stupid choice.

And the stadium will not be reconfigured until the 2017 Athletics World Championships, right?

And if it's true, I am so glad I yesterday could buy a athletics ticket so I can be inside the Olympic stadium once.

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