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Right, back on topic...here's a new idea nobody has come up with.

It's been said lots that the lighting will be an 'event'. - Now, this is taken from an email sent to people attending the final rehearsal on Wednesday night.

Maybe it's just some little thing to get people to 'tag their location'...but maybe they are testing something for the lighting of the cauldron.

I'm thinking: "London 2012 Couldron: Lit by the people of London and the world" ect...

We've got your message, Athensfan. No need to shout it out all over again. And as you can see, Paul is actually trying to bring the discussion back on-topic. We should leave it there.

That reminds me of a "digital souvenir" VANOC sent out by e-mail on Vancouver's opening night to everyone who had signed up for it before (also to people who didn't attend the ceremony). I just found the e-mail in my inbox - it read "Congratulations! This is your official Digital Souvenir of the Vancouver 2010 opening ceremony. It is also your invitation to The Stadium, where you could be part of the Closing Ceremony - virtually. Get your virtual seat in The Stadium."

And it had a picture of the Maple Leaf outlines formed by those torchbearers on top of the mountain -- the scene in that video shortly before the snowboarder jumped through the Olympic Rings into BC Place.

Maybe they'll send something similar to those who use that app in the stadium during the rehearsal.

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What exactly has been the point of the last 160 pages, then? When did we cross the line into throwing away anything, potentially legitamate, anyone brings up in this thread simply because "it won't ma

The longer I see it "in action", I think that the idea behind the cauldron lighting and the design was extremely clever - but Heatherwick and Company completely failed in realising that the cauldron w

I don't quite understand your reasoning that the 2012 location is showing more people worldwide the cauldron that had it been located elsewhere (ie roofline of stadium etc). The cauldron is always a f

If the cauldron is hidden there ( and we have no way of knowing) it certainly isn't staying there. We still have no clue what it looks like, where it goes, how it is lit, by whom or even where it is currently hiding.

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As others have said, the umbrella things are the lights but I'm curious about the 'stairs'. You may have seen it in close up (I haven't) so I'm not saying you're wrong but, from the pic's I've seen all the stairs are inside the wrap. If there are stairs outside the wrap here, that's curious itself.

There are external stairs on the back side of the stadium (the west side or VIP side). You can see them here: http://a8.sphotos.ak...039272049_n.jpgbox_77_top-right.png

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That's the same area as the other pictures (and it can be seen in the pictures above). Ive not seen it up close, so it may indeed just be a cover for high voltage cables. Presumably the extra power is needed for the opening ceremony lighting and effects. Anyway, I still think this area is worth watching as it would be a logical location for the cauldron.

Correct. There is an immense amount of lighting, sound (and video) gear in the stadium that would be removed even if the building were to remain intact. Just as film studios bring in power when a particular stage is being used, rather than having every stage cabled permanently, so with the Olympic Stadium. So it's not the black scaffold construction, which is netting covering the cables.

I'm more surprised that people haven't discussed the white bit inbetween the netting...

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Just as a comparison:

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The bottom image is the cauldron in Vancouver under construction. Looks like a pretty similar arrangement of scaffolding + material to hide what's inside!

My theory on the tree/roots: I think perhaps this is where the torch will ENTER the stadium- the tree will lift up and the first torchbearer will rise out of the hole below? Just an idea! :)

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way2go - you and I are on the same page. If the tree coming out of the ground didn't have any role in the rehearsals, then why give it roots?

That's a great question.

Adrian did say that the cauldron is not on the Tor. He could be wrong, I guess.....

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He said that the Tor wasn't the cauldron's location way before his posting saying he now knew the location. One of my FB friends was at the dress rehearsal and he mentioned something about flying trees. Did I miss something? sounds as though the Tor will feature during the unveiling of the cauldron.

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I'm more surprised that people haven't discussed the white bit inbetween the netting...

Well that could be a possibility and some have mentioned it at the same time as the black structure. I always assumed them to be integral to each other. Of course, you could just be making mischief ;)

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The bottom image is the cauldron in Vancouver under construction. Looks like a pretty similar arrangement of scaffolding + material to hide what's inside!

The problem with that spot is that it's on the northwestern side of the stadium so a tall cauldron standing there wouldn't be in view of the VIP's on the west side.

I think there's a good chance the cauldron is underneath the Tor. It would of course be ceremony-only as it can't sit on the stands throughout the games, and the only problem I see with it is that it might be too close underneath the fabric roof / ceremony rigging criss crosing the stadium to be safe. But I do think, at this point, it's a good guess.

Adrian could've debunked that location thinking that it would only be the site of the Tor and nothing more.

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He said that the Tor wasn't the cauldron's location way before his posting saying he now knew the location. One of my FB friends was at the dress rehearsal and he mentioned something about flying trees. Did I miss something? sounds as though the Tor will feature during the unveiling of the cauldron.

Yes, but he pretty definitively ruled it out as an option. He knows now, but that doesn't necessarily mean he was wrong before.

It seems obvious the tree will move, but we don't really know why or when. Maybe it's just for Branagh's entrance at the very beginning?

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So the tree - which was not featured at all in anything I saw at the rehearsal on Monday could be it right? Seeing how it HAS to have a role which they have hidden so far.

As for the stairs going up the stadium. They are simply stairs for the audience to get to the higher tiers.

Here is a photo I took on Monday showing the stairs and the lights which have also been referred to 'golden umbrellas'.

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That's assuming the 'tower' goes straight up.

True, of course. But do you think it would rise diagonally towards the direct northern end of the stadium? Seems hard to imagine a structure that would be able to do that without vertical supports and be high enough to be seen from inside the stadium.

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Just been watching the one show, they revealed the BBC olympic coverage studio which seemed to have a better view of this part of the stadium than the BBC news studio. It looked like there was a large gap in the wrap directly in front of this new structure. Has anyone else noticed this?

When the one show comes on BBC iplayer I will try to cap it and post a pic if I can later.

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True, of course. But do you think it would rise diagonally towards the direct northern end of the stadium? Seems hard to imagine a structure that would be able to do that without vertical supports and be high enough to be seen from inside the stadium.

I've seen a picture of Heatherwick's work on here (can't find it now, typical) which shows a golden snake like structure 'clinging' to the corner of a building. I could imagine something like that entwined around the white frame of the stadium. That's probably a wild guess but spare all the others.

If, as I understand it, the final rehearsal is tomorrow (Wednesday) that leaves two days with the park in lock-down to assemble a cauldron before the opening ceremony.

That's probably a wild guess but spare all the others.

Should say "so are all the others".

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Just been watching the one show, they revealed the BBC olympic coverage studio which seemed to have a better view of this part of the stadium than the BBC news studio. It looked like there was a large gap in the wrap directly in front of this new structure. Has anyone else noticed this?

When the one show comes on BBC iplayer I will try to cap it and post a pic if I can later.

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You're correct- a bit difficult to see in this shot, but it's there!

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Just been watching the one show, they revealed the BBC olympic coverage studio which seemed to have a better view of this part of the stadium than the BBC news studio. It looked like there was a large gap in the wrap directly in front of this new structure. Has anyone else noticed this?

I missed that but I posted a link to some pictures yesterday that showed the view from the BBC sport (blue box) studio. I'm sure the broadcast studios will have a good view of the cauldron (whatever form it takes) which makes me convinced it will be on the northern plaza. The international 'blue box' studios are further west than the BBC studios but also have a good view of this area.

I'll look out for pictures of the wrap in this area.

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