MarkUk Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 There are external stairs on the back side of the stadium (the west side or VIP side). You can see them here: http://a8.sphotos.ak...039272049_n.jpg Thanks, I'd not seen a clear picture of this side of the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenadian Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 way2go - you and I are on the same page. If the tree coming out of the ground didn't have any role in the rehearsals, then why give it roots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepianoman Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Just as a comparison: The bottom image is the cauldron in Vancouver under construction. Looks like a pretty similar arrangement of scaffolding + material to hide what's inside! My theory on the tree/roots: I think perhaps this is where the torch will ENTER the stadium- the tree will lift up and the first torchbearer will rise out of the hole below? Just an idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 way2go - you and I are on the same page. If the tree coming out of the ground didn't have any role in the rehearsals, then why give it roots? That's a great question. Adrian did say that the cauldron is not on the Tor. He could be wrong, I guess..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 He said that the Tor wasn't the cauldron's location way before his posting saying he now knew the location. One of my FB friends was at the dress rehearsal and he mentioned something about flying trees. Did I miss something? sounds as though the Tor will feature during the unveiling of the cauldron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkUk Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I'm more surprised that people haven't discussed the white bit inbetween the netting... Well that could be a possibility and some have mentioned it at the same time as the black structure. I always assumed them to be integral to each other. Of course, you could just be making mischief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY20?? Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 The bottom image is the cauldron in Vancouver under construction. Looks like a pretty similar arrangement of scaffolding + material to hide what's inside! The problem with that spot is that it's on the northwestern side of the stadium so a tall cauldron standing there wouldn't be in view of the VIP's on the west side. I think there's a good chance the cauldron is underneath the Tor. It would of course be ceremony-only as it can't sit on the stands throughout the games, and the only problem I see with it is that it might be too close underneath the fabric roof / ceremony rigging criss crosing the stadium to be safe. But I do think, at this point, it's a good guess. Adrian could've debunked that location thinking that it would only be the site of the Tor and nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkUk Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 A picture of the tree; raised up with roots, here: http://english.kyodonews.jp/photos/2012/07/170557.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 He said that the Tor wasn't the cauldron's location way before his posting saying he now knew the location. One of my FB friends was at the dress rehearsal and he mentioned something about flying trees. Did I miss something? sounds as though the Tor will feature during the unveiling of the cauldron. Yes, but he pretty definitively ruled it out as an option. He knows now, but that doesn't necessarily mean he was wrong before. It seems obvious the tree will move, but we don't really know why or when. Maybe it's just for Branagh's entrance at the very beginning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I really hope the tree doesn't lift to reveal a cauldron, that would look so unelegant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul92 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 So the tree - which was not featured at all in anything I saw at the rehearsal on Monday could be it right? Seeing how it HAS to have a role which they have hidden so far. As for the stairs going up the stadium. They are simply stairs for the audience to get to the higher tiers. Here is a photo I took on Monday showing the stairs and the lights which have also been referred to 'golden umbrellas'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I can tell you when it will move. Read this only if you don't mind a huge amount of spoilers. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=93558047&postcount=2435 It was posted originally by Ikarus in the spoilers thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkUk Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 The problem with that spot is that it's on the northwestern side of the stadium so a tall cauldron standing there wouldn't be in view of the VIP's on the west side. That's assuming the 'tower' goes straight up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul92 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 If I remember to add it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY20?? Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 That's assuming the 'tower' goes straight up. True, of course. But do you think it would rise diagonally towards the direct northern end of the stadium? Seems hard to imagine a structure that would be able to do that without vertical supports and be high enough to be seen from inside the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjpauly2k Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Just been watching the one show, they revealed the BBC olympic coverage studio which seemed to have a better view of this part of the stadium than the BBC news studio. It looked like there was a large gap in the wrap directly in front of this new structure. Has anyone else noticed this? When the one show comes on BBC iplayer I will try to cap it and post a pic if I can later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkUk Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 True, of course. But do you think it would rise diagonally towards the direct northern end of the stadium? Seems hard to imagine a structure that would be able to do that without vertical supports and be high enough to be seen from inside the stadium. I've seen a picture of Heatherwick's work on here (can't find it now, typical) which shows a golden snake like structure 'clinging' to the corner of a building. I could imagine something like that entwined around the white frame of the stadium. That's probably a wild guess but spare all the others. If, as I understand it, the final rehearsal is tomorrow (Wednesday) that leaves two days with the park in lock-down to assemble a cauldron before the opening ceremony. That's probably a wild guess but spare all the others. Should say "so are all the others". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepianoman Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Just been watching the one show, they revealed the BBC olympic coverage studio which seemed to have a better view of this part of the stadium than the BBC news studio. It looked like there was a large gap in the wrap directly in front of this new structure. Has anyone else noticed this? When the one show comes on BBC iplayer I will try to cap it and post a pic if I can later. You're correct- a bit difficult to see in this shot, but it's there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkUk Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Just been watching the one show, they revealed the BBC olympic coverage studio which seemed to have a better view of this part of the stadium than the BBC news studio. It looked like there was a large gap in the wrap directly in front of this new structure. Has anyone else noticed this? I missed that but I posted a link to some pictures yesterday that showed the view from the BBC sport (blue box) studio. I'm sure the broadcast studios will have a good view of the cauldron (whatever form it takes) which makes me convinced it will be on the northern plaza. The international 'blue box' studios are further west than the BBC studios but also have a good view of this area. I'll look out for pictures of the wrap in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkUk Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 You're correct- a bit difficult to see in this shot, but it's there! I think that gap is further round, closer to what people have identified as the VIP area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjpauly2k Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 You're correct- a bit difficult to see in this shot, but it's there! Thanks for the cap, so does anyone know if this gap has always been there? Why would there be a gap like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkUk Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I think that gap is further round, closer to what people have identified as the VIP area. Then again, perhaps not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 The gap in the wrap is nothing new actually - you could see it already in all the recent pictures of the stadium after the wrap had gone up. On this webcam you can even see it live : http://www.formanandfield.com/fisheyeview The wrap looks unfinished that way, but I suppose they did it on purpose to give the VIPs better access to and from the adjacent VIP building. Maybe it's also a security precaution (fire protection, in case the wrap should burn, for example - so that the flames don't catch the VIP building, too)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkUk Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 This picture shows several gaps. http://www.insidethegames.biz/images/2012/07/Soldiers_outside_Olympic_Stadium_July_22.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 The gaps have always been there. I assume they need them for different kinds of access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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