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That's why you have back up flames following the torch around. All taken from the original cauldron in Athens. I mean, who's ro know any different, but the link back to the Athens lighting ceremony will still be there. ;)

Yes, I know. The "backup" is certainly getting a workout this time.

But I have to ask who in their right mind takes fire whitewater rafting and doesn't expect it to go out?!

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Hi, Am back online...altho from the Library. Hard disk of my home computer fried...thanks to all this Cauldron talk!!

So Ihad to buy a new laptop and they are loading all my old files onto it. So, will probably be back online FROM HOME tomorrow. So, am just catching up on all the previous posts.

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Hi, Am back online...altho from the Library. Hard disk of my home computer fried...thanks to all this Cauldron talk!!

So Ihad to buy a new laptop and they are loading all my old files onto it. So, will probably be back online FROM HOME tomorrow. So, am just catching up on all the previous posts.

Well hope all goes well! Be back online normally soon :)

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Hi, Am back online...altho from the Library. Hard disk of my home computer fried...thanks to all this Cauldron talk!!

So Ihad to buy a new laptop and they are loading all my old files onto it. So, will probably be back online FROM HOME tomorrow. So, am just catching up on all the previous posts.

What a time for that to happen. :o

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Just looking at the film it seems that many of the cauldron lighting sequences don't actually get lit by the flame of the final torch bearer, instead being lit but some sort of ignition sequence. I suppose this is for contingencys sake.

London 2012 have done a brilliant job at hiding the cauldron from us! I will certainly have my eyes peeled for it when i get in that stadium on the 27th!

Here's a great video containing all the caldron lightinings from 1968 to 2010:

http://www.youtube.c...1&v=1i1r08irN7E

Barcelona, Sidney and Athens are definitely the highlights. Seoul-88's lightning was CREEPY! lol

I can see London following the steps of Calgary-88.

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Well, gas is volatile, so all it needs to burn is the introduction of a spark or flicker of fire and it can leap into flame. That sometimes means that the torch doesn't have to touch the lip of the cauldron to make it work.

That said, I've always felt that Torino's cauldron lighting was a bit 'faked' as the flame set off a pyrotechnics show and did not necessarily link the Olympic flame in the torch directly to the Olympic cauldron.

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Well London had more important things to deal with from 1939 onwards so I suspect little thought was put into the games at all - not sure when exactly they were officially cancelled but there was a war going on, they wouldn't stop building aircraft to build a cauldron.

That's right, the postponed 1944 London Games were awarded to London for 1948 by the IOC without a vote and became known as the 'Austerity Games', done on a very tight, post-War budget, with no trimmings.

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Someone here mentioned that Montreal had only a temporary cauldron for the opening ceremony. Well, did you also know that Montreal had actually two cauldrons - a (so-to-speak) "indoor" cauldron in the stadium and an "outdoor" cauldron near the cross on top of Mont Royal?

See it starting at minute 11:35 in this video of the Montreal 1976 opening ceremony:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZqPL9FOHI0&feature=player_embedded

See this PDF for confirmation: http://www.parcolympique.qc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/A_jeux_olympiques_1976.pdf It even looks as if the Mont Royal cauldron was lit by the same two final torchbearers who later lit the cauldron inside the stadium.

So even if London chooses to have two cauldrons (although I doubt it), one inside the stadium and one outside plus moves the "indoor" cauldron to another location in the stadium after the ceremony, it will have a precedent in Olympic history. ;)

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^^ OMG! I know this is offtopic but I wanted to watch Montreal ceremonies for a long time, about time someone posted them. Thanks a lot Olympian :)

Anyway, I kinda knew about the Montreal cauldron as well, though most people don't mention it much. I also remember there were clones of the Albertville 92 cauldron at many sport venues.

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Yes, I know. The "backup" is certainly getting a workout this time.

But I have to ask who in their right mind takes fire whitewater rafting and doesn't expect it to go out?!

These things will happen. A specially adapted Sydney torch was taken underwater on the Great Barrier Reef, and it didnt go out. But if it had, then they had the back-up flames with them in lanterns at the surface to continue the relay.

The original Sydney 2000 lighting ceremony in Olympia for the start of the torch relay didn't fire at all as it was too overcast so they simply went to Plan B which was to light the first torch in front of the world's media from the lantern flame they ignited the day before.

They have a Plan A, Plan B and Plan C wih these things. It all works out in the end.

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Any notice that this Cauldron thread, which was started by SwissO only in April 2012 is now only 10 posts behind the total of the Opening Ceremony thread which has been going since 2009 ?

The OC Spoilers thread is the dark horse though and is streaking along at a superfast rate..

( not that we're in compeition with each other .......................... lol )

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And it's remarkable that the media so far don't try to uncover the location and the look of the cauldron. While we got new pictures from within the stadium and even one of the outside, taken from a nearby apartment (SPOILER ALERT: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2175205/London-2012-Opening-Ceremony-View-inside-Olympic-Stadium-provides-glimpse-spectacle-look.html), they don't show us what is happening on the concourse north of the stadium.

Isn't there anyone with a strong telescope lens who can take pictures from a building north or northwest of the stadium? ;)

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But I have to ask who in their right mind takes fire whitewater rafting and doesn't expect it to go out?!

What I love about that video is what I imagine the dialog to be.

"The flame went out when I was in the boat and water splashed on it."

"No sweat. Let's get you a fresh torch and light it using a back up flame. Won't take but a minute!"

[Lights the new torch.]

"Wow! Great! Thank you!"

[Get back in boat.]

[Repeat.]

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And it's remarkable that the media so far don't try to uncover the location and the look of the cauldron. While we got new pictures from within the stadium and even one of the outside, taken from a nearby apartment (SPOILER ALERT: http://www.dailymail...tacle-look.html), they don't show us what is happening on the concourse north of the stadium.

Well, that picture taken from the nearby apartment block does tell us that whatever is going on outside the stadium to the north is still relatively low to the ground.

And of course that air space restriction came into place as soon as they started doing cauldron related preparations. London has been very good at keeping this a secret; not even Beijing put an air space restriction over the Bird's Nest.

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They've managed to do a great work at hiding the cauldron, even more than Beijing IMO. Although i'm sure we will probably have leaks of it very soon now that the date of the opening ceremony is getting close. They won't be able to hide it forever.

Wasn't all that exciting. Kinda boring.

I never said if it was exciting or not. I just wanted to watch it anyway because of it's historical value (plus the music was pretty neat)

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I tell you what, going through this thread, seeing that one dude mention the Orbit tower in every single one of his posts made me want to gouge my eyes out.

Thank you!

^^ Whateveeeeeer Baron...

I found this pic of Heatherwick's office from this link http://blogs.kcrw.com/dna/. I think it was taken recently. Do you see any hints about the cauldron?

Heatherwick-office1.jpg

Cool pic. But didn't they say Heatherwick didnt even keep the plans at his office? If theyre hiding the plans it seems odd that they would leave a giant model in plain view. It's a nice shape, but I doubt it's the cauldron,

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I tell you what, going through this thread, seeing that one dude mention the Orbit tower in every single one of his posts made me want to gouge my eyes out.

What's your shortlist for the Cauldron location then sunshine? Speak up this is a forum, feel free ....

My shortlist for the Cauldron location is two possible loctions: on the Orbit Tower or on a separate external structure.

At the very least, I think the Orbit tower will play some sort of theaterical support role in the Opening Ceremony.

I know the Orbit is very much an outsider, but hey, I like to bet on a roughie. Just don't get ulcers over someone else's ideas. Take a chill pill. You'll enjoy the ride better.

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